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Take Destiny, remove the annoying level-grinding, blend it with Diablo, and then cover with a Starship Troopers motif and voila: HELLDIVERS. The leveling-up feels earned and natural and you can progress through the more difficult missions/planets at your own pace. Friendly fire happens and is less aggravating than most games.

This is going to go down as one of my favorite games ever with great ease. For $20 on PSN and the ability to play it on PS3, PS4, and the Vita? It's well worth a download.
 

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If you haven't checked this out yet then you're wrong. Not necessarily a bad person, per se, but definitely wrong.

However, you'll get a chance for a retail purchase soon (August 18th, per Arrowhead Studios), which will include the majority of the DLC packs, the new Masters of the Galaxy expansion, and (apparently) disc-exclusive DLC weaponry (that is annoying those of us who've been playing since launch).

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Bump because Helldivers is FREE for February on PS-Plus. It's the Democracy Strikes Back edition, which is the commercial hard-disc release, so it features all of the DLC save for the All-Terrain and Precision Strike packs.
 

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This has been one of the games I've been looking forward to since getting a PS4. As soon as I can get a PS+ account, I'm DLing it.
 

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Broward said:
This has been one of the games I've been looking forward to since getting a PS4. As soon as I can get a PS+ account, I'm DLing it.

Let me know when you get on this weekend, we can coop some. Haven't played it in a while, should get back in to it. Plus, it'll give me something to do until the Division open beta next weekend.
 

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HELLDIVERS 2 HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.

They're switching from isometric twin-stick to third person combat, and it looks more like "what if the first game was in third person" than not...and that's actually a great thing, because it shows just how massive the enemy factions are in comparison.


Most rumors are that this will be dropping by Liberty Day (October 26th, an in-game holiday).
 

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Helldivers 2 has an official release date of Feb 8, 2024. Pre-orders are available, $40 for the base game and $60 for the Super Citizen edition, the latter coming with a few exclusives (including an armor set and an exclusive mini-game).
 

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I toyed around with Helldivers II briefly this morning. Game play wise, it's exactly what it's been purported to be, which is very much more of the first but in third person rather than an isometric view. This has the advantage of a greater challenge due to the limited view, but an advantage as movement is much more intuitive. I'll need to putz around with the controller settings to get that sweet spot, of course, so that will be a project for Saturday morning.

I've seen issues arise with players having a hard time searching for other games to join, but it seems this is a crossplay issue and not specifically matchmaking, as the way around at the moment is to turn crossplay off.

So far, so good!
 

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So, the game has proven so unexpectedly popular that the servers are having serious issue remaining stable. Crashes and crossplay issues are abundant during peak hours. While this would be seen as a horrible launch for a major developer, the fact that this is only Arrowhead's 5th game and topped the Steam charts at launch?

That's a fucking win, baby.

Now, to enjoy another hot cup of Liber-Tea...
 

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There are a few elements of HD2 that are rough compared to HD1, so I'm still wondering which game is better overall.

Upgraded from HD1 to HD2:
-Graphics. Duh.
-Independence. The first game had all players (up to 4) share one screen, and screen pulling was always an issue. This doesn't happen now with the third person view.
-Resupply strats being free.
-Enemy difficulty is MASSIVELY increased in HD2.
-Mission variety in HD2 is grander than HD1.
-Crouching and ADS weren't a thing in HD1, and they've helped tremendously.
-Having a laser sight not take up a Modifier slot is awesome.
-All unlockables being available to all players rather than as paid DLC packs. (This changed in HD1 toward the end of its main lifespan, but there were some very real divides earlier on.)
-Player customization is beautiful in HD2, even if it's the same options (Armor, Helmet, Cape) as in HD1. This is where the third person switch from isometric really shines.

Downgraded from HD1 to HD2:
-Flipside of the Resupply strat being free to all players is that the countdown is shared, whereas it was unique to the player in HD1.
-Unlocking weapons/stratagems/armors using Medals is a fine system, but HD1 had them locked behind operations on randomized planets. It felt better to complete a string of missions in an operation to unlock the Strat/Weapon you wanted rather than grinding it out and hoping a host player won't kick you at extract for no reason.
-Primary weapon variety is lacking in HD2 compared to HD1, but that's due to the 1-2 punch of the game just being launched and some of the HD1 primaries being set as strat call downs in HD2.
-Limiting the usage of certain air strike stratagems (looking directly at Napalm) hampers their effectiveness. I'd regularly run a load out of Resupply/Shield/Napalm x2 in HD1 (Stalwart as primary) and cross the fire to form a chokepoint and a kill zone, so it's a little bit of a letdown for this to not be a viable option in HD2.
-Jury's out on the ping wheel reaction/call outs, personally. I thought these were better utilized with the d-pad in HD1 (up is affirmative, right is move, down is no, left is wait/stop), but I also get how this wouldn't be an option with the current control features.
-I like being able to use the mini-map while actively moving, but HD1 had the option of displaying the map on the entire screen for you to look at, and that helped immensely when doing a mission with multiple objectives.


I'm looking forward to when vehicles are added to the fray, especially whatever exo suits are introduced. Going full ExoSquad in third person is going to be hilarious.
 

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Just failed a mission for the first time. Squadded up with a random from the HD2 discord. Got PKed multiple times.
 
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