Let's talk about online gaming for a second....

[Damaramu]

As evidenced in previous posts something has been distressing me lately. Namely the fact that I don't have my X-Box 360 hooked up to the internet and have no desire to do so.

When playing games I've always been a story guy. I want to enjoy the story and beat the game to get the fully story and have fun along the way.

I've never been very competitive and I've never been a completist. I never try to get all achievements in a game nor do I try to get 100%.

Enter the world of online gaming and it's balls to the wall competition. It's about who's the best and who has the most achievements to wave around.

I've noticed more and more games being developed with online in mind. Especially first person shooters. I have fun playing FPS on my own but some of them I play and go "They didn't put as much effort into this." And I know all the effort went to playing online.
I enjoy playing an FPS with friends, but online it's just not fun. There's people that get waaaaaay too good and they make it not fun for me at all. I hate playing when some snot nosed punk is sitting over there talking shit on his microphone because this is all he does all day.
So I choose not to play them online.

And then there's DLC. I have no desire for DLC unless it seriously affects the story or the outcome of the game. Then I may give it a shot. But extra levels that mean nothing or extra costumes don't mean anything to me. (i remember when that stuff was unlockable by beating the game, not anymore).

So I'm wondering, one day are there even going to be games for me to play? Or has the move to online been so dramatic that one day every game will have a necessary online component? Then dinosaurs like me will have absolutely nothing to play because we have more fun playing games on 1-player.

Is there anyone else out there like me that won't touch online with a 10 foot pole and is getting worried with the shift to online?

Anybody that used to be like me but got over it?

I mean I may consider playing something like Call of Duty 2 or Halo 3 online if I didn't think I'd get killed after respawning each time before I can fire a single shot.

 

[Black Lushus]

The worst thing about online play (I'm not going to count lag here, that's just too easy) is the bitch ass hackers. I stopped playing Mario Kart Wii online because of them. I've ran in to a few hackers on COD, but not enough to make me quit that just yet.

I usually avoid fighting games because I too much of a sore loser to put up with getting my ass kicked non-stop by 13 year old pros!

 

[Kageho]

Its really gotten bad with online gaming. Even when playing MMOs, they've now gotten it so that if your character isn't built correctly you can't get into a guild or even a group. You need to be a certain fit or you are "wasting" their time.

I'm sorry but I play games the way I want. I might take someone's advice if it helps improve how I play, but I'm not going to change the way I play just to suit everyone else's needs.

As for DLC, its becoming a joke. I mean, I wouldn't mind getting some bonus stuff, but extra levels? You honestly can't tell me that if you held the game off for like a year that this stuff couldn't've been added to the original game? Really now?

At first, I was ok with DLC, since some games, like Disgaea 3, added a whole bunch of stuff and was like 3 bucks (usually extra characters). That at least I could understand.

 

[MillenniumMan831]

I got a PS3 for Christmas and the only person I'll play online is my brother.

 

[AndrewTS]

I hear ya, Dama, and I feel for you, but I think you're a bit too worried over the situation.

As evidenced in previous posts something has been distressing me lately. Namely the fact that I don't have my X-Box 360 hooked up to the internet and have no desire to do so.

There are arguably two good reasons to do so, and they're free: patches and demos. Darksiders is a good game that came out recently, but without the patch it can be a really ugly experience with all the tearing. Demos may not be *as* good as a rental, but they still are a big help, can help you find out if you like a game that wasn't on your radar before, and can save you time if you realize something sucks really badly.

There are also many good downloadable games.

When playing games I've always been a story guy. I want to enjoy the story and beat the game to get the fully story and have fun along the way.

I've noticed more and more games being developed with online in mind. Especially first person shooters. I have fun playing FPS on my own but some of them I play and go "They didn't put as much effort into this." And I know all the effort went to playing online.

I enjoy playing an FPS with friends, but online it's just not fun. There's people that get waaaaaay too good and they make it not fun for me at all. I hate playing when some snot nosed punk is sitting over there talking shit on his microphone because this is all he does all day.
So I choose not to play them online.

I'm with you 100% here, but remember that FPS games are often heavily geared towards multiplayer. I would suggest doing no more than renting a Call of Duty game, for instance, since you can usually expect a brief campaign. Often a *very good* brief campaign, but not worth 60 dollars.

There are some good, story-driven FPS games out there, but you need to pay attention to reviews: Bioshock and Half-Life episodes, for instance (Orange Box is a great bet in that regard, featuring the short-but-remarkable Portal as well).

And then there's DLC. I have no desire for DLC unless it seriously affects the story or the outcome of the game. Then I may give it a shot. But extra levels that mean nothing or extra costumes don't mean anything to me. (i remember when that stuff was unlockable by beating the game, not anymore).

Almost all DLC is bullshit. Real expansion packs like Bethesda's stuff aside, by and large you're not paying for any length, compelling add ons. Paying for costumes and the like is bullshit too, but you can squarely place the blame on the company for that, and on the fools who buy it for encouraging it.

So I'm wondering, one day are there even going to be games for me to play? Or has the move to online been so dramatic that one day every game will have a necessary online component? Then dinosaurs like me will have absolutely nothing to play because we have more fun playing games on 1-player.

Is there anyone else out there like me that won't touch online with a 10 foot pole and is getting worried with the shift to online?

Anybody that used to be like me but got over it?

I wouldn't worry about it. Keep in mind that multiplayer games, while they're big business, also require a lot of expensive measures to maintain. Companies like Activision and Microsoft will keep making titles like that, and may even try to move towards a DLC-support MMO model for some of their franchises, but even with multiplayer games being a bigger slice of the market than before, single-player titles still dominate the market.

Realistic reasons to worry:

One Console Future: This is something hyped up the ass by analysts and may PC developers who keep worrying that PC gaming will completely die out. The theory is that one day in the future we'll cease to have a splintered market of game consoles and a separate PC gaming sector, and all gaming will be done on one universal media set top box. I have doubts this is a realistic concern, though.

You have to assume that Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are going to join forces and agree to publish on one machine. Barring one or more of them being spent into bankruptcy and merging with each other, I don't see them doing this.

Internet-streamed/downloaded console(s): Supposedly the wave of the future will be console(s) without any sort of interchangeable media (like game discs and cartridges), but rather a device that downloads or streams all games directly to the device. This would perhaps mean all games being purchased via an iTunes-style online store, DRM, "phone-home" requirements for playing games. Granted, the future is now if you consider iPhone and iPod Touch to be real gaming consoles, but right now that model doesn't seem to be a legitimate threat, and most of the game titles on tap are poorly-controlling ripoff games, glorified ROMs, and the occasional quality title buried amongst a big pile of garbage. Realistically, something like this isn't going to be mass market in the same way as a the major game consoles for 20+ years, when internet connections are fast enough and the infrastructure is ready to distribute large games like we have now. Plus, even then, the size of modern games may double or triple in size, and it still may be necessary to use physical media.

I'm not terribly worried either way. I have many original Playstation and PS2 games that I've yet to play through, I have several RPGs I haven't played, and probably dozens of modern-generation titles that I would buy if I had the time. I'll find games I like to play even if companies started making games I loved tomorrow. By the end of this year, the Wii may even have enough good games I missed to consider buying another one! I doubt I'll be hurting if I still skip it, though.

If you ever find yourself wanting for something to play, ask for recommendations from other people and perhaps expand your horizons a little, too. There could be tons of games out there you'd love if you'd only give them a try.

Its really gotten bad with online gaming. Even when playing MMOs, they've now gotten it so that if your character isn't built correctly you can't get into a guild or even a group. You need to be a certain fit or you are "wasting" their time.

Wait...what...?

Even when playing MMOs...or you are "wasting" their time.

???

 

[Vitamin X]

I have to agree with you on this, Dama. I have an Xbox Live membership and lately keep wondering about cancelling that (as well as cable, in exchange for faster internet and more Netflix). Already online gaming is what keeps me from getting back into FPS since yeah, there's not much of a story mode in a lot of them these days and then when you go out into the multiplayer there's just people who play this shit ALL THE DAMN TIME and the only game I can remain remotely competitive with how much I play it is Madden. Ultimately though, I don't feel it's worth $50 a year just for Netflix and occasionally kicking some ass on Madden so I'm getting a PS3 sometime this year and playing all my online games there, keeping my 360 just for exclusive titles and all that. At least then I don't have to get my ass kicked AND have to pay for it that way.

 

[AndrewTS]

I haven't had a gold subscription in, like, two years.

 

[Golgo]

If I'm not mistaken some of that DLC stuff is basically already on disc, too. You're just paying money for the privilege of accessing it. But what do I know, I don't have any current generation consoles yet. Regardless it can still work as long as one level in a game doesn't go for five dollars or something like that. Packs of assorted things and characters for a low price are fine. Patches are just fine with me, too, and can be crucial, which is one benefit of online hitting home consoles, and should be taken advantage of. Though I also don't care for its effect on the second hand market either.

But online and all the concepts therein like DLC will right itself eventually. Hopefully. That's generally how gaming operates. It's pretty contained and self regulatory, if not by the companies, then by consumers who are sometimes smart enough not to buy into a mediocre game and the occasional reviewer who'll call a company out on its bullshit.

Otherwise, unless more games start requiring active participation in the community, like MMORPGs, it doesn't matter to me. And I don't play those anyway.

And it's not like you have to play the assholes, completists, or achievement whores, Dama. You can always keep things limited to your friends and whoever you trust. However, someone doesn't have to be competitive to want to get better at a game, either, which is one thing players outside of a limited circle can help with. Truthfully as long as someone isn't a hacker, ragequitting crybaby or a 12 year old who just learned a new series of curse words then I don't care too much about who I might eventually run in to.

 

[Kageho]

Its really gotten bad with online gaming. Even when playing MMOs, they've now gotten it so that if your character isn't built correctly you can't get into a guild or even a group. You need to be a certain fit or you are "wasting" their time.

Wait...what...?[/quote]

Ok, maybe I should explain this better. Joined a group recently in Lord of the Rings Online and had my Warden (hybrid offensive type) statistically built to do a little of everything because that's what a Warden does. A little agro management, a little dps, and a little tanking. I'm not meant to be the go-to-guy if the party doesn't have the necessary part to get the job done.

However, there are numbers of people (going by what people post on the official boards say and my own experiences) believe that the Warden's job is to be a secondary tank, as we don't do enough DPS or agro management from what they "believe" (which is bullshit). When I tell them that I'm built for all jobs and not to be the secondary tank, I'll usually get the following responses from them:

1) "What the fuck did we waste the time grabbing you to do this quest? You aren't playing your character right!"
2) "Everyone knows that a Warden's job is a secondary tank."
3) "Sorry, but we need someone who can play the character correctly."

Nevermind the fact that I can effectively tank, dps, and agro manage all at the same time and have proven this to everyone who's grouped with me. That's what I mean to wasting their time. They believe I am because I'm not playing it correctly for them.

...and yes, I don't get their response of that either of wasting their time. MMOs are there just to waste time.

 

[Vitamin X]

In this vein, I had an excellent moment playing Madden 2010 the other day. Some fucker was doing the usual cheeser bullshit of running screens and QB draws/runs, going for it on fourth every time and then going for two when he was winning big. I contributed a bit to his success by giving the ball away three times, although in my defense two of those were tipped balls that just went the wrong way. This all led to me losing 29-7 midway through the second quarter. At that point, I got totally bored but didn't want to quit the game or anything, so I just did goal line-Blitz C on every down. Little did I know that this would actually start working! All of a sudden, I got like 3 sacks in a row and then turnover on downs and then I scored a quick touchdown off a screen to cut it to 29-17 at halftime. Then he drove down the field again, making it 36-17, and I came again with the blitz, and then I got a pick six to make it 36-24. Dude started playing crazy scared and then I came in AGAIN with the blitz and made his QB fumble, returning THAT for a touchdown 36-31 and now all of a sudden it was a game again. One more stop and the fucker went for it on fourth AGAIN like on his own 30, WITH ONE MINUTE LEFT, easy stop, touchdown back at him and did a 2 point conversion to be safe, and I won 39-36.

The funny part was that if he had just kicked the extra points the best I could've done was tie him there, so when I was running the ball down and got it at his 14, I decided to call a timeout with 2 seconds left to kick a field goal and he quit, which was hilarious. And oddly enough the game just stopped! Didn't even let me kick the field goal.

 

[AndrewTS]

*snip*

Nice. Folks tell you how to play your own character. Granted, I'm not *that* surprised, but it seems like yet another situation where it's best to play with friends rather than anonymous jerkasses.

If I'm not mistaken some of that DLC stuff is basically already on disc, too. You're just paying money for the privilege of accessing it. But what do I know, I don't have any current generation consoles yet. Regardless it can still work as long as one level in a game doesn't go for five dollars or something like that. Packs of assorted things and characters for a low price are fine. Patches are just fine with me, too, and can be crucial, which is one benefit of online hitting home consoles, and should be taken advantage of. Though I also don't care for its effect on the second hand market either.

It depends. There's some stuff that's extremely obvious (mercenaries mode in RE5 was a tiny unlock key, and Beautiful Katamari's DLC is well known to be levels on the disc). Often stuff that's been on PC has been dug up by hackers. Unsurprisingly, assets for the Bioshock plasmid packs were found in the original games.

Some stuff has larger download sizes, but who knows how much of that stuff is actual code or just unlock keys with lots of dummy code to make it look larger. Personally, I'm not concerned about the difference--I won't buy it either way. I often call it PLC (Paid Locked Content) for stuff that's obviously in the game already or Dubious Leftover Crap for slipshod, pointless add-ons. Incidentally, XBLA games with multiplayer that have DLC like extra characters and such are *required* by Microsoft to be PLC.

 

[Smues]

Shit that's just on the disc bugs the shit out of me. DLC that's 100% ready to go when the game launch and really seems like it should have been a part of the main game bugs me (though I'm somewhat ok with the Dragonage model of DLC that you get for free if you buy new and is just not available for used/rentals. SOMEWHAT ok.) But most other DLC is fine with me. No I would NOT prefer that they hold off on the game for a whole year just to add another level or two. If the game is done and being finalized and then the developers go oh hey this would be a good idea, I've got no problem with the DLC that results.

Back to online games, what Flik described is my big problem with it, and why I'm glad that I can pretty much play alone in Star Trek: Online. Also I tend to suck at online play, but the only way to get better is to keep playing. But that's impossible when people go OMG YOU SUCK OUT right away.

And then there's the 'disconnect before you can lose' that VX mentioned. I've been good against human players at very few games, but Mario Kart DS was one of them. I had a pretty good online record and I think at some point was over 100 wins over .500. I never disconnected if I was losing, even if it wasn't even close. But I quickly learned never to start a session without the full four people, because EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME at least one of the four would disconnect by the last race, and more often than not two of them. And I lost track of the number of times the last player besides me disconnected in the last lap of the fourth race.

And I don't think anyone has mentioned the people who just yell and swear and call everyone a homosexual the whole time.

 

[Baby Shoes]

I rarely play online. I have Live but I usually only play against friends or don't go online. My friends list even has people I'd prefer not to interact with online because they happened to get my gamertag and I rather just have them on there then go through the "Why did you remove me" bullshit. Most of my online use is just to get the online achievements. I know sometimes when I played general public in games, it led to people I played against messaging me to be friends and other stuff I really just don't care for. Like Smues and others said to, you get the idiots who swear and do name calling that just gets annoying. A lot of time when I play games, it is so it can be a way to get away. I know Lushus mentioned hackers, which I recently just heard about being a problem. Mentioned in another thread the other day that I had been playing Borderlands with a buddy of mine over Live. He told me about people modding stuff and playing against them online ends up corrupting your save files. I haven't looked into it but that stuff makes me cautious with who I play with too.

 

[NoCalMike]

For me it really depends on the game itself.

With a game like Madden, the online option is a bonus, but honestly, if it wasn't there I'd be perfectly happy playing against the CPU or my friends when they come over to hang out, and yes Hackers are always a big problem every year for Madden. I remember a few years ago there was hack on Madden called the "score flip" where you could be winning as the final seconds tick off, and your opponent could do some hack to make the score switch. Boom, you lose.

However, a game like COD:MW2, to me there is really no point to buying it unless you play online. The single player campaign is so short that no matter how fun it is, and neat it looks it just wouldn't be worth the cash. Also the multiplayer stuff seems to be fun for me even when I am not even middle-of-the-pack good at it.

I think the biggest drawback for online play for me is that I don't have the time to put into gaming like I did when I was a teenager/early 20's, so I just can't compete with most online players. Also, if I go a week or two without playing a FPS online, it seems my skills take a step back everytime, and it tooks a few rounds to get the feel of it back.

Also, most DLC is kinda bullshit, as in you rarely get your money's worth for having to pay for extra content on top of the whopping $60 you paid for the game itself.

Overall, unless the game is an MMO to begin with, I think online play should be treated the way Uncharted 2 was handled. Great single player campaign, with an excellent multiplayer option added on as the icing on the cake.

 

[AndrewTS]

Shit that's just on the disc bugs the shit out of me. DLC that's 100% ready to go when the game launch and really seems like it should have been a part of the main game bugs me (though I'm somewhat ok with the Dragonage model of DLC that you get for free if you buy new and is just not available for used/rentals. SOMEWHAT ok.) But most other DLC is fine with me. No I would NOT prefer that they hold off on the game for a whole year just to add another level or two. If the game is done and being finalized and then the developers go oh hey this would be a good idea, I've got no problem with the DLC that results.

Day 1 DLC pisses me off, to the point I'm not buying Mass Effect 2 until it's either deeeep discounted, used for under 20, or released in a Game of the Year edition with the bonus content (doubtful but I'm patient). If I'm already paying 60 bucks, I feel I'm entitled to the shit that's actually on the game disc.

The fact that EA's name is slapped on this thing doesn't hurt either. I'm not going to buy an EA game new on principle.

You know what would be a good use of DLC for EA? Roster updates to a Madden game for the new year! Crazy idea, huh?

 

[Damaramu]

Yeah I remember back in the day when a secret character or an extra costume was something you could get by doing something secret in a game or by beating the game. Those were the days when you were rewarded with extra stuff by playing the game!

I've got a friend that's turned into an achievement whore. He doesn't care about playing the game so much as he cares about getting all the achievements and showing them off to his friends list. Yeah, we don't talk about video games anymore. Some of those achievements are so frustrating to get that it's not fun. There's a fine line between challenging and pull your hair out frustrating. When it gets to the latter it ceases being fun, and isn't that why we play games? To have fun?

I didn't know anything about hackers. I've been playing Smash Brothers Brawl online, that's not too bad. And I was considering getting Mario Kart. Now I'm kind of worried to get it. I mean I guess I could get a splitter and hook my modem and wireless router to the cable connection in the living room and run my desktop off wireless completely (it's plugged into the wireless router right now) but that's a lot of hassle.


Also my choices to get my 360 online right now are as such: buy the Wi-Fi attachment for the 360 or get a 200 ft cable to stretch from my living room to my back room where the router is.

 

[AndrewTS]

Yeah I remember back in the day when a secret character or an extra costume was something you could get by doing something secret in a game or by beating the game. Those were the days when you were rewarded with extra stuff by playing the game!

You can do that with Bayonetta.

Achievements can be either/or. On the one hand, they can be used to get you to try things you wouldn't normally think of. In Batman: Arkham Asylum, the achievement for the Riddler's riddles is really cool because by solving them you notice all the details that went in the design of the stages. On the other hand, they can sometimes require really tedious amounts of play to get. Worst yet, are multiplayer achievements, which sometimes seem deliberately designed to undermine good play. I've seen some games have multiplayer achievements for killing people on your own team. Why?! So yeah, I don't see them as necessary good or bad. They're just, a thing. I confess that I've 1000ed a few games, but they were games I was having a blast at anyway and going the extra mile for the achievements was something extra to shoot for.

 

[Kageho]

Back to online games, what Flik described is my big problem with it, and why I'm glad that I can pretty much play alone in Star Trek: Online. Also I tend to suck at online play, but the only way to get better is to keep playing. But that's impossible when people go OMG YOU SUCK OUT right away.

Actually, I was kinda surprised during the beta with Star Trek: Online. Sure people were complete idiots on the boards, who didn't understand the concept of beta, but the ease at getting a group together or there was absolutely no wrong way of playing the game, was fantastically new for me. I highly enjoyed it, and that you really didn't need to be in a group if you didn't want to be was also another bonus.

Though being in a group actually made it more fun.

I'm not sure if I'm purchasing the game or not. There were plenty of things that needed to be corrected that I worry won't be.

 

[Mazto]

I'll argue with the MMO "right way to build your class" based off what I know, WoW. *becomes shunned in the game/tech folder.*

WoW at least basically forced your hand into specing a certain way to be viable for your role, and I'd run into waaaaaay too many players that would try to fill a role usually a Retribution Pally saying they can tank or heal a level 50 some odd instance. No... you can't unless the healer/tank is way overpowered for it anyways. I've run into tons of Beast Master hunters that say their fucking bear can tank something, no it can't.

I'll usually give it a go (this predates the new patch with cross realm instance running) because I'd been queued for fucking Zul'Farrak for three hours and just needed to kill the scarabs for a damned quest, and wanted to get the part that I could at least do that. And when we wipe for the third time on trash mobs, I'd say, "Told you that you can't do it." And then casually leave the group.

 

[Damaramu]

Looks like my refusal to play online games is being stretched. My friend is letting me borrow Modern Warfare 2 so I can play the singleplayer. But I hear the MP is just so awesome. Hmm......the fact that my computer is in the back of the house while the 360 is in the front and I don't have the wireless adapter or a 200 foot cord saves me from getting it online.
But I do have a wireless modem so I can connect my Wii and work laptop. So I guess I could technically move it to the cable outlet by the TV and hook straight into the modem and connect my desktop wirelessly but that's a lot of work. I tried to connect my desktop wirelessly and it wouldn't work. I'm thinking it doesn't have a network card. Oh well.

I hear there's extra missions on RE:5. That's why DLC annoys me, you miss out on that stuff! I loved GTA 4 so I'm glad I can get the DLC in the Liberty City Stories pack.

 

[tonyjaymz03]

I play online every now and then, but I never have a headset on. Never. And I hate playing a game of Madden, against a retard like the guy VX played against. I remember I was playing it a few years back, and this guy was the Falcons w/ Vick. Of course, he just kept trying to run as Vick or throw a bomb. So I just played zone defense, with a qb spy. Whenever I got the ball, I just rand the ball. Then he'd start to blitz, so i'd throw a bomb. And eventually I'm up 21-0 at halftime. Guy calls me a homosexual and quits. And I don't get a win for it because of him.

I hate WoW, also, because its lack of role-playing and its shitty gameplay. Oh, whats that? Go kill 5 snails and bring you their shells. And you want me to kill 10 lions, and bring you back their tails? Are you guys making a belt?

 

[Rendclaw]

And people wonder why I stick with my arcade and console emulations. So I don't have to deal with antisocial glue-sniffers who think that they know better than everyone because they're "bad-ass" at a game.

 

[Smues]

My home internet connection has been completely out for the last five days. This is a big reason I don't generally like games that require you to be online, because I don't trust to always have my connection. Forget ever buying Ubisoft games or whichever company it is with the copy protection that requires you to be online to play offline games.

 

[Damaramu]

My home internet connection has been completely out for the last five days. This is a big reason I don't generally like games that require you to be online, because I don't trust to always have my connection. Forget ever buying Ubisoft games or whichever company it is with the copy protection that requires you to be online to play offline games.

What? I've never heard of this.

 

[AntiLeaf33]

Online has been a nice little feature for most games, but Modern Warfare 2 is the online game I consistently play online. I buy the EA NHL games every year, and I find it's 50/50 if I'm actually going to get a good game, or a cheap ass player who only has one move in their arsenal. Then you have the rest of the people online that once you start to beat them (say 2, or 3-0) they quit and leave the game.

In terms of gamerscore/trophies, I actually find they help with the gaming experience and often give you incentive to play through a game a second time on a harder difficulty.

 

[Black Lushus]

ahhhh Rage Quitters!

 

[Smues]

My home internet connection has been completely out for the last five days. This is a big reason I don't generally like games that require you to be online, because I don't trust to always have my connection. Forget ever buying Ubisoft games or whichever company it is with the copy protection that requires you to be online to play offline games.

What? I've never heard of this.

I looked it up and it is Ubisoft that's doing this. I don't know if they've implimented it yet but if not I know it's coming soon. All future Ubisoft games will require you to be online to play. Wether or not you have to be connected the whole time or just when you start up I do not know. So for those with flaky connections or no connection hey fuck you don't blame us it's teh pirates fault!

You also have to register the game to your Ubisoft account, so you can't resell it since it's stuck to your account. FUCK YOU IT'S TEH PIRATES FAULT.

They have said that if/when they discontinue the server for a game they'll release a patch to play it offline. But if their server would happen to fail or they have net issues (because that NEVER happens does it?) then you wouldn't be able to play even if your connection is fine. FUCK YOU TEH PIRATES!!!


Yeah I think it's pretty awful.

 

[ZGangsta]

My home internet connection has been completely out for the last five days. This is a big reason I don't generally like games that require you to be online, because I don't trust to always have my connection. Forget ever buying Ubisoft games or whichever company it is with the copy protection that requires you to be online to play offline games.

What? I've never heard of this.

I looked it up and it is Ubisoft that's doing this. I don't know if they've implimented it yet but if not I know it's coming soon. All future Ubisoft games will require you to be online to play. Wether or not you have to be connected the whole time or just when you start up I do not know. So for those with flaky connections or no connection hey fuck you don't blame us it's teh pirates fault!

You also have to register the game to your Ubisoft account, so you can't resell it since it's stuck to your account. FUCK YOU IT'S TEH PIRATES FAULT.

They have said that if/when they discontinue the server for a game they'll release a patch to play it offline. But if their server would happen to fail or they have net issues (because that NEVER happens does it?) then you wouldn't be able to play even if your connection is fine. FUCK YOU TEH PIRATES!!!


Yeah I think it's pretty awful.

Assassin's Creed 2 and Silent Hunter 5 for the PC require you to connect to a server to play the game. And these are SINGLE PLAYER games.
The funny/sad part is that when they came out, the server crashed, so the people who legitimately bought the games were unable to play them, through no fault of their own and due to no hardware problem on their own end. Meanwhile, anyone who pirated the game would have been able to play just fine.

 

[Damaramu]

My home internet connection has been completely out for the last five days. This is a big reason I don't generally like games that require you to be online, because I don't trust to always have my connection. Forget ever buying Ubisoft games or whichever company it is with the copy protection that requires you to be online to play offline games.

What? I've never heard of this.

I looked it up and it is Ubisoft that's doing this. I don't know if they've implimented it yet but if not I know it's coming soon. All future Ubisoft games will require you to be online to play. Wether or not you have to be connected the whole time or just when you start up I do not know. So for those with flaky connections or no connection hey fuck you don't blame us it's teh pirates fault!

You also have to register the game to your Ubisoft account, so you can't resell it since it's stuck to your account. FUCK YOU IT'S TEH PIRATES FAULT.

They have said that if/when they discontinue the server for a game they'll release a patch to play it offline. But if their server would happen to fail or they have net issues (because that NEVER happens does it?) then you wouldn't be able to play even if your connection is fine. FUCK YOU TEH PIRATES!!!


Yeah I think it's pretty awful.

Bullshit. That sucks. I sure as hell hope other companies don't follow this lead. They'll find a lot of people not buying their games. Or maybe I misjudge the online freaks.

And why does the gamerscore/achievements make the experience better? Why do you want them?

 

[Star Ocean 2]

Finally got my Wii connected, and can now play Mario Kart online. I look forward to playing against these hackers I've been hearing so much about.