Old School Observations/Questions Thread 2020-21

[alkeiper]

1932. Jim Crockett Sr. begins his career as a promoter in Tennessee. Racism in Tennessee is what we might describe as "casual," as the battle royal indicates.

A newspaper article promoting the card quoted a promoter describing Johnny Dill as "a plenty tough wop."

 

[King Kamala]

You know I'm surprised that we haven't gotten more boxing/wrestling cards in the past five years besides that silly PPV where Roy Jones Jr boxed a "fan" with Rey Mysterio Vs Kurt Angle as semi main event.

You'd think rasslin would be right up Triller's alley but I feel like the big name wrestlers Triller would want to get (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk) are exactly the type of wrestlers that wouldn't want to be a part of a Triller sideshow.

Still it seems like an indy and low rent boxing promoter would work together.

 

[alkeiper]

If I had to hazard a guess I would think boxing being heavily regulated and wrestling being not precludes that from happening.

 

[King Kamala]

Yeah and I feel like the states where boxing is lightly regulated aren't wrestling hotspots.

Come to think of it, I'd be shocked if WWE doesn't try their own Triller knockoff in the next year or so. It seems a can't miss proposition.

 

[snuffbox]

That Dream Team episode was fun.

 

[BruiserBrody]

That Dream Team episode was fun.

I rolled my eyes pretty hard at the talk of WWF being small and "just getting started" in 1985.

Dude also said WM 2 was the first coast to coast viewed wrestling show. Big Steph talked up the celebs helping turn WWE into a household brand. Rewriting their own company line on the fly~!

We got a brief chance to see Johnny V's cartoon sleeping act he would do when Beefcake would put him out.

It was a fun watch though. I am just having a little fun being a curmudgeon.

 

[snuffbox]

Agreed with all of that. Lot of eye rolling in all these Treasures episodes. The WM 2 one was extra dumb because in the Slaughter/Sheik ep the same curator guy knew so much about that show he had the battle royal participants' boots memorized.

I was surprised they did a Jake the Snake show since he's been working for the competition.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Kat Larue almost started the Attitude Era 9 years early with those enhancements. Sorry Big Mama.

"Moolah" being a butch black lady has to be a rib, right?

 

[Valeyard]

Is there a consensus on how good/bad Pak Song was?

 

[King Kamala]

I spent way too much time a few months back looking up Linda Dallas and Misty Blue's urm, extracuricular work after hearing John McAdam cringe about it on one of his podcasts.

Between this and the Extreme/Gary Cherone posts, it might be best if I take a long hiatus.

 

[alkeiper]

Is there a consensus on how good/bad Pak Song was?

Gary Hart spoke highly of Song. From a draft of Hart's autobiography:

I did just that, wrestling on the undercard every night and watching the rest of the
matches. I noticed a lot of great, young talent like Kevin Sullivan, Mike Graham, Steve Keirn,
and Don Muraco, but the one that really stood out to me was Pak Song. He was really unusual
looking, and the moment I saw him, I knew that I wanted to manage him.
As soon as I told Bill that I wanted to manage and develop Pak, I went on TV and lost my Jackal
mask in a match against Jack Brisco, who was the NWA Champion at the time. It only took Jack
three minutes to beat me, rip my mask off, and reveal that The Jackal had been “Playboy” Gary
Hart, but when he did, I received a very high-profile entrance into Florida.
Pak Song was a big name athlete in Korea, who had served in the Korean marines, and
was so well known that he married Miss Korea. They moved to the United States so he could
pursue a career in professional wrestling, and had twin daughters while he was in Amarillo
working for the Funks. Pak was a wonderful, family oriented guy, and we hit it off instantly.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Is there a consensus on how good/bad Pak Song was?

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This is a good historical look at his career.

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• Pak Song, who was 6’ 6” from Korea. In his debut, he shocks the fans by Karate chopping Dennis Stamps’ head into a bloody mess. When things are getting over, the crowd gets silent especially when a heel is getting it done. In that match, Pak Song made that impression on the audience.

 

[SFH]

I wonder if Stamp regretted getting booked that night.

 

[alkeiper]

Minneapolis, Feb. 15, 1886. Read between the lines on this one.


Vince McMahon's grandfather is four years old and wrestling matches are frequently worked. Blasphemy!

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1403034461566996482

Foley needed some sleaze. Being lovable doesn't draw I guess.

 

[Hawk 34]

Should have went deeper into his affection for porn stars and Santa Claus.

 

[Laz]

Not surprised, honestly. His story is already one of the most well known as far as his real life journey in and around the business, so why would a bio piece on a guy so open draw more viewers than ones on people who either a) died before they could tell their story, or b) haven't been as heavily publicized as his?

 

[SFH]

That's true, didn't Foley mention Christy Canyon in his bio? I forgot about that.

 

[LaParkaYourCar]

Here's my review of WWF No Way Out of Texas: In Your House.

https://classicwrestlingreview.com/2021/06/13/no-way-out-of-texas-in-your-house/

 

[alfdogg]

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404302457493094402

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404389958928977920

Sonny Onoo got to play heel. That auction part seemed more realistic than most of the "deals" we see unfold.

I'm glad my Mama bought me the Andre tribute magazine after he died. Still have it in my giant pile of old mags

Just a real feel good episode for me. Having been 4 1/2 when Andre went from Lovable hero to evil giant, I never thought of him as being limited mobility wise. Through my child eyes he was like a monster who couldn't be budged.

 

[Epic Springs]

I was today years old when I found out that Sir William, Steven Regal's manager from his early WCW run was Bill Dundee.

 

[Valeyard]

Regal should've been the one knighted, not Bill.

 

[Slayer]

He was already a Lord, knighthood would be a step down!

 

[Valeyard]

It's way, way less of a segment than someone waving a sword haphazardly around Regal's head while Maxx Payne plays "God Save The Queen."

 

[SFH]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404302457493094402

ZZ better thank his lucky stars he never made it as a wrestler because I can see Vince running with Skinner 2.0 .

 

[Valeyard]

Vince would love Swamp People.

 

[SFH]

Those guys are dicks for millionaires that still live in shanties.

 

[snuffbox]

The hall of fame in Waterloo added Mike McGuirk to their induction weekend!