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This possibly could have fit another thread but I couldn’t find one. Merge if needed, please.

Many local public schools in this region have been visited—or more accurately, invaded—by an evangelistic ministry that has been conveniently independently invited by students at each school that belong to The Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA). I became aware of it when a friend from my church and mother of students at Huntington High School posted about it on social media, detailing how everything about the assembly goes against the legal separation of church and state. It was held during school hours; though it was said to be “voluntary,” a couple of teachers forced their entire class to attend; and the speaker was not just speaking but proselytizing and “saving” kids by the dozens through the most ridiculous fear mongering ever. At one point, the featured speaker said that he had a friend that had stopped attending church and because of that, he was killed in a car crash. WHAT?!?

This was obviously a targeted effort by Nik Walker Ministries, the group that was going from school to school. They had to be invited by a student at each school, and that is how it happened. So someone at Nik Walker Ministries and/or the FCA told students they needed to invite Nik to speak. And then it was not only allowed during school time, but some students were forced to attend. At least one of the kids forced to attend is Jewish. There were atheists amongst those students. In a public school, religion was being forced upon them and a particular religion at that. And the kids that were not Christians attending the event, can you imagine the pressure of being such a small minority in a group where the speaker and most of the students are encouraging people to give their lives to Jesus Christ so they don’t immediately die and burn in Hell?

Nik Walker Ministries made many social media posts after each school stop and was boasting about the exact number of souls they saved. The posted photos which included faces of students in attendance, without permission to do so. Commenters on their posts were just going on and on about how this was amazing and that the enemy was trying to prevent them from doing this. “The enemy” in this instance was the parents, school employees, and the community that knew how wrong this was. They then made sure to mark each post after this had been outed with the word voluntary in all caps.

My friend from church that posted is a very articulate and passionate person. She typically stands up for all injustices that she sees and does not let things go. She contacted the Superintendent; the Board of Education; the ACLU; the Freedom From Religion organization; and several others. This is about to get very interesting.

Here is an article in the local paper where my friend was interviewed: Article from The Herald-Dispatch

You can view it in incognito/private mode to get around the paywall.
 

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Thankfully someone is doing something about it. This story reminds me of a time in junior high
where we had an assembly with a bunch of silly games and invited to the local high school that night for more fun, games, and wrestling. When we get there, it was an evangelical gimmick. I don't remember if they dropped the church stuff on us at the assembly, a lot of it blurs, but there was definite prayer and soul saving at the big event among the wrestling matches (all faces won) and the games. (I distinctly remember competing in a chubby bunny marshmallow contest and getting eliminated around marshmallow #7).

In my teen years my dad (retired cop) ran the local police explorers troop, a branch of Boy Scouts of America, and I joined out of expectation. One of our fundraising things was to direct traffic and organize parking lots for fairs and festivals. This church had a big one every year. So there's 14 year old me at my post telling cars "this parking lot is full" when one of the adults from the church joined me and just started spouting gospel. Reflectively, highly inappropriate.

Same church still exists. Before he got promoted from the road, the old man pulled over the pastor's son for speeding in his brand new Mustang. Not unusual for boys to speed in cars, but the car was clocked higher than normal speeding offenses, in a residential area, at the "more than 25 over" range. Further, the car wasn't registered to Pastor Tom Smith nor Tom Smith Jr. It was registered to "First Evangelical Church of Swamp Bayou Louisiana." For whatever reason they never leaked the information to the public that the church funds were used to finance Jr's sports car (and probably paid his bond, ticket, tow, etc...). This was before internet was very common so even if the teen had a mugshot and was booked, he bonded out within 3 hours and didn't make it to the next day's newspaper police beat.
(tl;dr SFH going off about the local equivalent)
 

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My 20 year old co worker went to Lutheran school his whole life apparently. So last night I asked him "What did they teach you about dinosaurs if the earth is 5000 years old and the dino bones are millions of years old?"
Him "We didn't really learn any history other than US history"
Brody "Oh, they wanted to make you dumb shits. Sounds like child abuse to me"

I also mentioned how some things in the bible were added later on, and some may have to do more with fulfilling Jewish prophecy rather than historical truths. He just let own a moan and said "Oh Andrew!"
 

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I had a coworker that believed the Earth was 4,000(ish) years old. I never debated him on it, but I just can’t wrap my head around what those types must go through every time there is an archeological find showing humans to be older than that substantially.
 

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Well, yeah. Then comes carbon handholding, and that leads to carbon impure thoughts instead of carbon praising.
 

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Louisiana mandated the 10 Commandments be posted in all schools, too. The new Repub governor even said he is looking forward to being sued over it! These red states clearly see that the current make up of the Supreme Court is overtly ruling in favor of organized religion (but, not those ones) in the public sphere and see it as their chance to get these shenanigans legalized. Precedent is clearly out the window, so why not?
 
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