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My gut feeling is we’re barely scratching the surface for sports betting scandals.

You can’t put the shaving cream back in the canister RE: legalized sports betting. Although I am kind of amazed that there are still 12 states where sports betting is illegal (including California and Texas). I thought that number would be like half.
 

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So because the sports books are in bed with the league and there are stringent reporting requirements they picked off some of the dumbest offenders. No doubt there are some big fish possible but it feels like the biggest problem are probably that class of minor league players with a little inside information and less salary to lose.
 

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The alarming thing is a lot of those guys are BAD at betting.
 

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Yeah. Dude placed hundreds of bets and only won 4.3% of them. I get beginners luck but damn, pal, it wouldn’t take that long to realize “Maybe I am not that good at this.”

I feel kind of bad for the guy that got a year suspension for placing $28 worth of bets but rules are rules, I guess.
 

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Switch has been surreal and swift. It feels like sports betting went from bad and mostly illegal to outright encouraged in the past ten years. Is it a Trump thing? It feels like a Trump thing.
 

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I was getting bombarded with Draft Kings ads ten years ago pre Trump campaign on all the podcasts I listen to.
 

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Switch has been surreal and swift. It feels like sports betting went from bad and mostly illegal to outright encouraged in the past ten years. Is it a Trump thing? It feels like a Trump thing.
Not everything relates to Trump, unless that’s your whole identity so maybe it is.

It’s a making money thing. We’ve always enjoyed gambling and the ease of access is so easy and yeah, problematic to be sure.

Trump didn’t invent degenerative addictive behavior, if he did he would been better at owning casinos.

The issue here is they adjusted the rules for players across sports too rapidly, the institutional memory hasn’t changed at all.

Players can’t even play fantasy sports anymore, the only saving grace for a dog shit Reds team for the players in late August was the god damn fantasy leagues they’d set up. Now the shitty teams you just sit on your god damn phone and doom scroll.
 

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We already saw the impact in the NFL with some of those players who've since struggled to re-sign with teams for this season. I don't want to say Shohei Ohtani and that entire ordeal was sketchy but I feel like there's fire underneath that smoke and MLB basically scapegoated the interpreter. I think the "big names" are smart enough to skirt the rules and/or utilize 3rd parties to gamble for them but it wouldn't surprise me if stuff like this becomes an annual offseason situation.

Even something like this could've resulted in suspensions: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...e-of-the-year-bet-with-jayden-daniels-is-off/
 

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Assuming I'm the only one here who lost a good friend to a gambling-based murder. There's even a Forensics File episode about it. I'm in favor of legalization; like with marijuana, it seems to be the safer and saner option. But I'm not big on the whole justice for some, banned for life for others thing. Seems kinda gross and wrong. And, as we should know by now, it's not a lifelong ban. It's an eternal banishment. Joe Jackson has been dead since 1951.
 

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We already saw the impact in the NFL with some of those players who've since struggled to re-sign with teams for this season. I don't want to say Shohei Ohtani and that entire ordeal was sketchy but I feel like there's fire underneath that smoke and MLB basically scapegoated the interpreter. I think the "big names" are smart enough to skirt the rules and/or utilize 3rd parties to gamble for them but it wouldn't surprise me if stuff like this becomes an annual offseason situation.

Even something like this could've resulted in suspensions: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...e-of-the-year-bet-with-jayden-daniels-is-off/
You should read the entire indictment report. It’s like there is smoke but it’s because the bookkeeper was a total fuckin moron.

Also, I don’t have a problem with people gambling but the advertising is just like cigarette advertising and it’s trying to create a generation of gambling addicts. Someone has to step in and regulate it.
 

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Yeah, IMO, sports betting definitely should be legal but I was gonna say what 909 said and it shouldn’t be advertised as freely and frequently as it is. And tbh, I’m not sure if you should be able to do it on your phone.
 

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These companies are making an insane amount of money on losing spur of the moment triggered bets, so no you shouldn’t be able to do it on your phone. Drag ya ass into the bookie shop every day and show your ID every time and that way they know kids aren’t placing bets. They can afford to pay people to take bets in person. One exception is that you could place bets over Zoom instead.
 
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You have sports books who have agreements with sports leagues to get proprietary information (they get the lineups first, for example). Then you have sports broadcasters doing ad reads during the broadcasts touting these books or whatever bets are available. This may include how whatever happened in the game has influenced live odds. And beyond placing a win/lose bet which is something a layman can understand you now have daily fantasy sports and parlays that break down the odds into ways a person can not possibly understand. It becomes an addiction every bit as harmful as tobacco or alcohol and it has the added detriment of influencing how the game is presented and played.
 

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These companies are making an insane amount of money on losing spur of the moment triggered bets, so no you shouldn’t be able to do it on your phone. Drag ya ass into the bookie shop every day and show your ID every time and that way they know kids aren’t placing bets. They can afford to pay people to take bets in person. One exception is that you could place bets over Zoom instead.
They’ve made it so easy you can just place bets at a kiosk at your grocery store. So grab some almond milk, grapes and take the Edmonton PL at the same time.

The sheer number these companies will lose from bored dorks placing bets while taking a shit on their phone at work or late at night chasing would be staggering.
 

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I thought I’d never hear sports announcers be less enthusiastic doing ad reads than they do for wrestling or FOX sitcoms but some of them sound like they’re hostages reading something at gunpoint.

And I guess in a rhetorical sense, they are *raspberry*.

Everyone knows how fucked this situation but no one really wants to call it out cause as snuffy pointed out, previous way of treating sports betting wasn’t great and no one wants to sound like Helen Lovejoy.
 

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Agree with you guys on the phone part, I literally had to put my phone down Friday night after a golf bet and had to tell myself to wait until Saturday morning to chase my losses.

Another thing that bothers me is I saw a featured “Dave Portnoy 4 Way Parlay” for Game 1 that was +875, only problem was the real value of it was +1300. If you already are going to take peoples money from not hitting all four legs at least give players the real value!
 
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