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I'll be checking out the original Firestarter tonight (which wasnt a great film IIRC) and then watching the remake tomorrow, probably via Peacock instead of theatrical (even though I have the AMC pass which I get three films in a week) as this just does not look good at all and the theatrical experience won't help it really. One of these examples where nobody was demanding a need to redo this one and the attempt to do so looks like a total mess. What is it going to take for especially mainstream studios to stop this insanity?
 

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I'll be checking out the original Firestarter tonight (which wasnt a great film IIRC) and then watching the remake tomorrow, probably via Peacock instead of theatrical (even though I have the AMC pass which I get three films in a week) as this just does not look good at all and the theatrical experience won't help it really. One of these examples where nobody was demanding a need to redo this one and the attempt to do so looks like a total mess. What is it going to take for especially mainstream studios to stop this insanity?
Part of me wonders if they just re-made it to keep the movie rights? The original was released in 1984 and we're almost 40 years later on that front with both movies being released by Universal Pictures (the 2022 also being associated with Blumhouse Productions of course).
 

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Idk Firestarter was playing in theaters. My local theater probably didn't even show it due to simultaneous Paramount Plus reviews.

I hope that dissuades people from the "We should be remaking movies that DIDN'T do well!" argument.
I actually disagree. I'm the type of guy who believes that if a movie is usually viewed as bad or okay at best, it deserves to have a remake that would try to improve on that. From everything I've heard, the new "Firestarter" is terrible, but I'd take somebody remaking that (was never a fan of the original) than say, something like "Predator" or "Robocop" (though I do think you could actually do a good remake of the latter. Yes I'm aware of the remake that exists, but I feel like especially in today's world it's a film that you could remake and at least get some solid social commentary)
 

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I've seen Firestarter and it's really forgettable. Zac Efron is really bad and barely shows any emotion throughout the movie. There is a scene involving a cat that is one of the stupidest things I've seen in a while.

But, surprise to me, John Carpenter and his crew do the soundtrack and absolutely kill it. On par with his recent Halloween soundtracks and maybe even better. The score elevates the movie and is the most memorable thing here. I also liked Michael Greyeyes as John Rainbird despite the baffling direction they take the character.
 
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I've seen Firestarter and it's really forgettable. Zac Efron is really bad and barely shows any emotion throughout the movie. There is a scene involving a cat that is one of the stupidest things I've seen in a while.

But, surprise to me that John Carpenter and his crew do the soundtrack and absolutely kill it. On par with his recent Halloween soundtracks and maybe even better. The score elevates the movie and is the most memorable thing here. I also liked Michael Greyeyes as John Rainbird despite the baffling direction they take the character.
This, all this. The Carpenters score was the absolute highlight for sure. The rest of everything else was pretty bad for all the reasons stated. They ended up taking some significant umbrage with the original storylines and characters, that's for sure. That cat scene actually pissed me off and upset me to a certain level, seemed really inhumane and out of place, just seemed like a nasty scene that didn't need to be there. Also the bad CGI in this....wowsars!

I will say the remake felt more horrorish than the original though, that's about as much of a praise I can give it really. But it wasnt in any way a real improvement over the original, which was pretty fuckin terrible up until the third act, with Drew going HAM on mofos everywhere. Tonally speaking, the original was weird and the remake was even weirder. The Rainbird character was so significantly different in the remake (and the ending was as well) but that may have been the most positive shift between the two films actually, as the original role was completely changed. While George C Scott had a wild and memorable performance in the original, I found his role very creepy to say the least, the interactions between him and Barrymore were very unsettling at times in a pedophile type of way.

Again yet another example of a remake that isn't better than the original (which already was a low fucking bar) and a total waste of time to have produced in the first place. I do wonder if there was some rights issues like Harley said that forced the studio to churn out this shit.
 

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11Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness$31,600,000-48.8%4,534-$6,969$342,080,4853Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
2-Downton Abbey: A New Era$16,020,000-3,820-$4,193$16,020,0001Focus Features
32The Bad Guys$6,099,625-13.3%3,705-83$1,646$74,365,0005Universal Pictures
43Sonic the Hedgehog 2$3,940,000-15.4%2,943-173$1,338$181,002,0007Paramount Pictures
5-Men$3,293,030-2,212-$1,488$3,293,0301N/A
65Everything Everywhere All at Once$3,135,928-5.5%1,576-150$1,989$52,263,4849A24
76Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore$1,905,000-25.4%1,923-655$990$93,066,0006Warner Bros.
84Firestarter$1,900,100-50.4%3,413+1$556$6,960,0002Universal Pictures
98The Lost City$1,500,000-11.6%1,396-279$1,074$99,267,0009Paramount Pictures
107The Northman$1,019,670-41.6%1,263-671$807$33,041,0005Focus Features
Next week should be interesting, what with "Top Gun: Maverick" and "The Bob's Burgers Movie" coming out.
 

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1-Top Gun: Maverick$124,000,000-4,735-$26,187$124,000,0001Paramount Pictures
21Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness$16,400,000-49.2%3,805-729$4,310$370,773,9794Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3-The Bob's Burgers Movie$12,600,000-3,425-$3,678$12,600,000120th Century Studios
42Downton Abbey: A New Era$5,900,000-63.1%3,830+10$1,540$28,478,9452Focus Features
53The Bad Guys$4,630,000-24.6%2,944-761$1,572$81,372,9006Universal Pictures
64Sonic the Hedgehog 2$2,520,000-38.4%2,329-614$1,082$185,139,3268Paramount Pictures
76Everything Everywhere All at Once$2,510,345-19.9%1,187-389$2,114$56,823,98710A24
89The Lost City$1,795,000+14.9%1,027-369$1,747$101,732,00010Paramount Pictures
95Men$1,224,692-62.8%2,196-16$557$5,967,7842A24
10-F3: Fun and Frustration$1,028,000-400-$2,570$1,028,0001-
New "Top Gun" is expected to make $150 million by tomorrow. "Bob's Burgers" did about how I expected, and gotta give it to EEAAO for continuing to rake in cash for A24.
 
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I thought the Bob's Burgers Movie would open lower, about $8-9 Million, so that's pretty good.
 

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I thought the Bob's Burgers Movie would open lower, about $8-9 Million, so that's pretty good.
Saw it last Friday night, and there wasn't a tiny audience-not a massive one, but about what I expected.

Unrelated, but I saw "Men" last week, and-you know, I think it's time we put a steak in the heart of the current "it's about trauma/it's a metaphor" art house, slow burn horror movie. Or at least wait a few years until another one comes out-or more appropriately, after "Crimes of the Future" is released. It honestly felt like a parody of it's self.
 

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11Top Gun: Maverick$85,999,989-32.1%4,751+16$18,101$291,604,0002Paramount Pictures
22Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness$9,251,000-42.4%3,765-40$2,457$388,711,1165Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
33The Bob's Burgers Movie$4,500,000-63.8%3,425-$1,313$22,240,149220th Century Studios
45The Bad Guys$3,339,675-23.8%2,872-72$1,162$87,291,0007Universal Pictures
54Downton Abbey: A New Era$2,999,710-48.2%3,471-359$864$35,702,0003Focus Features
66Everything Everywhere All at Once$2,020,892-18%1,434+247$1,409$60,561,93511A24
7-Vikram$1,770,000-465-$3,806$1,770,0001Prime Media Pictures
87Sonic the Hedgehog 2$1,724,877-29.7%2,092-237$824$188,269,0009Paramount Pictures
98The Lost City$1,379,851-34%811-216$1,701$104,012,00011Paramount Pictures
10-Crimes of the Future$1,100,000-773-$1,423$1,100,0001Neon
Hey, Cronenberg in the top 10. Also, that's some staying power for "Top Gun"

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11-Watcher$815,000-764-$1,066$815,0001IFC Films
15-Deep in the Heart: A Texas Wildlife Story$126,250-69-$1,829$126,2501-
19-Eiffel$100,175-308-$325$308,3031Blue Fox Entertainment
22-Benediction$49,776-91-$546$49,7761Roadside Attractions
26-Poser$15,250-1-$15,250$15,2501Oscilloscope
28-Neptune Frost$10,000-2-$5,000$10,0001Kino Lorber
30-RRR
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$5,100-3-$1,700$72,9121Variance Films

RRR is also on Netflix. It's also probably the most fun I've had watching a movie this year.
 

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Also, that's some staying power for "Top Gun"
I saw on Twitter that it's Top 10 All Time for movies in their 2nd week of release. People love late era Tom Cruise (as long as he's not talking about his personal life)
 

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I saw on Twitter that it's Top 10 All Time for movies in their 2nd week of release. People love late era Tom Cruise (as long as he's not talking about his personal life)
I guess... I just looked at Cruise's IMDb page and realized that I haven't seen a thing he's been in since Jerry Maguire.
 

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Also, that's some staying power for "Top Gun"
Variety is it is smallest decline for a movie that made $100 million opening weekend.

It makes sense. A lot of people were waiting to see what reviews and audience feedback were like since Top Gun sequel 35+ years later doesn't sound like a great idea on paper.
 

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I have no emotional connection to this franchise (the first Toy Story movie came out when I was twenty), so I wasn't going to see Lightyear, no matter what, but I am upset by the reported turnout, because there's going to be a lot of regressives and far-right shitheads claiming "victory" over the movie's lack of success.
 

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I feel the same. I do love the Toy Story quadrilogy but only have mild to moderate interest in this one. I can’t believe that people are finding the plot of “a movie about the series that Buzz Lightyear’s toy is based on.” is like Inception levels confusing for people. And having a lesbian couple in it is salt in the “Durrr TIM ALLEN IS STILL WORKING!” crowd’s wounds.
 

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I feel the same. I do love the Toy Story quadrilogy but only have mild to moderate interest in this one. I can’t believe that people are finding the plot of “a movie about the series that Buzz Lightyear’s toy is based on.” is like Inception levels confusing for people. And having a lesbian couple in it is salt in the “Durrr TIM ALLEN IS STILL WORKING!” crowd’s wounds.
Chris Evans is the voice of Buzz in this movie...
 

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Ah... I get it from a legacy VA aspect but if Evans can mimic the voice well enough it makes sense that somebody like a Tim Allen can't do the voice forever.
 

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Ah... I get it from a legacy VA aspect but if Evans can mimic the voice well enough it makes sense that somebody like a Tim Allen can't do the voice forever.
Again. Tim Allen is playing a Buzz Lightyear action figure that thinks he's Buzz Lightyear and Chris Evans is playing Buzz Lightyear!
 

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11Jurassic World: Dominion$58,660,000-59.6%4,697+21$12,488$249,796,6902Universal Pictures
2-Lightyear$51,000,000-4,255-$11,985$51,000,0001Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
32Top Gun: Maverick$44,000,455-15.1%4,035-227$10,904$466,168,0004Paramount Pictures
43Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness$4,200,000-19.5%2,465-880$1,703$405,083,6607Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
55The Bob's Burgers Movie$1,100,000-55.4%1,350-1,255$814$29,762,030420th Century Studios
64The Bad Guys$980,000-61.3%1,477-939$663$94,239,0059Universal Pictures
77Everything Everywhere All at Once$959,631-26.5%679-755$1,413$64,920,18613A24
86Downton Abbey: A New Era$830,000-52.8%1,179-832$703$42,196,3505Focus Features
99Sonic the Hedgehog 2$228,392-69.6%439-628$520$190,478,00011Paramount Pictures
10-Brian and Charles$198,000-279-$709$198,0001Focus Features

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the weakest Disney opening for a while. If I may enter the conversation-even before far right wing idiots were complaining, the reaction to the first trailer was divided IIRC. Some thought it looked cool, where as others (like me) didn't see the point in it. I'm sure it's not bad, but nothing about it seems necessary. Why am I supposed to care about why Andy got Buzz in the first place?

Other new releases

16-Abandoned$60,500-54-$1,120$60,5001Vertical Entertainment
19-Official Competition$34,000-4-$8,500$34,0001IFC Films
 

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Every Toy Story after the first, people asked before the next one came out "Should they really make another Toy Story?". I guess for the first time, the answer to that question is "Probably not."

Another underrated factor is most kids movies have come out same day streaming since the start of the pandemic and this is the first major one in a while to be theaters only. After two years, people have thought "YKW? Taking kids to movies isn't really that fun!" I wouldn't be shocked if kids movies joined comedies as types of movies that don't play in theaters anymore within the next decade.
 

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Who were the people debating the merits of making more Toy Story movies? Maybe I'm not in on this fan community but I don't remember any debate about Toy Story 2 or 3 at least. These are movies (primarily) aimed at kids. I expect them to churn out at many as they possibly can. As a parent I have sat through endless sequels, prequels, sidestories of successful franchises.

They should have put this out on streaming. I think a lot of parents have gotten used to not having to take their kids out to the theater and the fact you can replay it multiple times also makes it so much easier. Kids want to rewatch movies they like endlessly. It'll probably still make back it's official budget before going to streaming though. Why an animated movie needs to cost 200 million dollars is another question.
 

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Who were the people debating the merits of making more Toy Story movies? Maybe I'm not in on this fan community but I don't remember any debate about Toy Story 2 or 3 at least. These are movies (primarily) aimed at kids. I expect them to churn out at many as they possibly can. As a parent I have sat through endless sequels, prequels, sidestories of successful franchises.
Toy Story 2 was a "troubled production" and at one point was going to be direct to DVD but was rescued midway through the production to become the success it was.
Hesitation towards 3 and 4 were more "The last one ended so perfectly, there's no way that they can follow it up!" than "this is going to suck."
 

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I did see Lightyear over the weekend in 3D (if it wasn't for the format, I wouldn't have bothered and this is coming from a pretty big Toy Story fan) and it just felt so very flat for a theatrical summer release. I'm not sure who they were trying to attract with this film really. It was too serious and themed more towards adults a bit, but yet this was clearly a film I think they tried to market towards kids. In the theater I was in, it didn't feel like the kids were really into this, in fact I saw a handful sleeping during it!

Crowdwise, it was not nearly as packed as it was for a second viewing of Top Gun 2 on Father's Day either.
 

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13Top Gun: Maverick$30,500,176-31.7%3,948-87$7,725$521,723,0005Paramount Pictures
2-Elvis$30,500,000-3,906-$7,808$30,500,0001Warner Bros.
31Jurassic World Dominion$26,440,180-55.3%4,233-464$6,246$302,776,0003Universal Pictures
4-The Black Phone$23,370,000-3,150-$7,419$23,370,0001Universal Pictures
52Lightyear$17,669,000-65.1%4,255-$4,152$88,770,2572Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
64Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness$1,725,000-61.2%1,855-610$929$409,192,0748Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
77Everything Everywhere All at Once$533,346-43.4%524-155$1,017$66,088,44614A24
85The Bob's Burgers Movie$513,000-56.3%590-760$869$31,042,995520th Century Studios
96The Bad Guys$439,975-56.4%1,033-444$425$95,488,00010Universal Pictures
108Downton Abbey: A New Era$370,000-55.3%745-434$496$43,284,6206Focus Features

EEAAO is available On Demand, will be on Blu July 5th and is still in the top 10. That's staying power.

Other new releases

11-Marcel the Shell with Shoes On$169,606-6-$28,267$169,6061A24
18-CatVideoFest 2022$15,466-6-$2,577$15,4661Oscilloscope
20-Beba$5,428-3-$1,809$5,4281-
21-Flux Gourmet$5,000-19-$263$5,0001IFC Films
 

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Shout out to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, still managing to clear a million domestic, the same week it hit Disney+.
 

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Top Gun: Maverick has officially cleared $1 Billion worldwide while the Fantastic Beasts movie is still sitting at $95 Million domestically...
 
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