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[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
I remember being kinda excited for this when it was booked. It sucked. Kamala had no interest in selling for some short indie kid.
That may have been by design, IIRC the build was Kamala was going back to his monster heel side and away from the comedy Kamala gimmick who would sing jazz (r and b?) and whatnot.
 

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Thank you, Mike Graham.
I'll admit that this triggered me. I was going to comment that Mike was never even champion of his Daddy's promotion, but a quick look shows he was champ for a month in Jan 83 (and didn't job it, instead they did an injury angle. The promotion was already beginning to slide as the champion list by 1982 and beyond is well below the level of Dusty, Brisco and prime Dory.

** Graham was champ of the Shindy version of the promotion that formed after JCP closed up Florida.

*** Graham was Southern champ in 81 for a whole week while feuding with Dicky Slater.

**** Graham was 17 time Florida tag champ, and 5 time Florida US tag champ.
 

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I will say in The Jarretts' mild defense, Florida in the '70s and early '80s was a much, much more loaded roster than Memphis in the late '80s, early '90s. If they swapped places through some sort of time machine, there's probably a chance Jeff and Mike swap championship pedigrees.

On one of the first episodes of his podcast, Jeff told Connie that Mike Graham's anger and bitterness towards good ol' Double J was rooted in Mike Graham hanging out backstage frequently at the Impact Zone looking for road agent work and never getting hired. It's truly Jeff's world and we're all livin' in it.
 

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I will say in The Jarretts' mild defense, Florida in the '70s and early '80s was a much, much more loaded roster than Memphis in the late '80s, early '90s. If they swapped places through some sort of time machine, there's probably a chance Jeff and Mike swap championship pedigrees.

On one of the first episodes of his podcast, Jeff told Connie that Mike Graham's anger and bitterness towards good ol' Double J was rooted in Mike Graham hanging out backstage frequently at the Impact Zone looking for road agent work and never getting hired. It's truly Jeff's world and we're all livin' in it.
I misunderstood where you were coming from then. I thought you were just mocking Mike Graham for getting a nepotism push as an undersized worker ala Groovy Greg and Double J.

Mike was just like Jake the Snake, SS Graham, and modern day Road Dog where you praise a place when you cash the checks there and shit on them as soon as they show you the door.

Did Graham work as an agent for a hot minute for WWE when they bought the Florida tapes?
 

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I think he helped out and made audience cameos occasionally with Florida Championship Wrestling in the late '00s, around the time of his frequent Legends of Wrestling appearances.

I forgot that he also lost a son to suicide. What a tragic life. I've watched very little if any Florida stuff but I do know that Mike was actually p. good.

He just shouldn't have badmouthed Jeff!
 

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Yeah. Mike was undersized but a good wrestler to the point where he'd probably fit in well with today's workers.
And he was a shooter. His best stuff is likely lost in the Florida archives that remain. It looks like he cut way back on dates by 1983. He was in his early 30s at that point, so by his WCW run he was 40+

He did a cameo in 1985 Mid South I enjoyed. He came in for a TV taping, got a squash win and was put over by the announcers as a special guest of sorts. Then he came out for his 2nd squash for a later week, but ended up getting burned by Akbar. It gave Watts a way to put over his heel without having to lose out on bookings by having one of his guys sell a burn injury.

Looking it up, it wasn't even pure squashes: He worked Dr. Tom and Dutch Mantel. I was going off my memory of a VHS Best of tape to give you an idea how long ago I watched this.
 

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spanish languarge from San Fran, match listing with time tags:
00:00 - Roddy Piper vs Terry Sawyer 12:00 - Tom & SD Jones vs The Masked Canadian & Victor Rivera 25:00 - The Masked Canadian & ? vs Black Gordman & Great Goliath 38:00 - Masked Canadian vs Mando Guerrero (Cage Match) 50:00 - Mando Guerrero & Texas Red vs The Masked Canadian & Alex Perez 1:03:00 - SD Jones & Texas Red vs Victor Rivera & The Masked Canadian 1:20:00 - Roddy Piper vs Chavo Guerrero 1:33:00 - Black Gordman, Alex Perez & Terry Saywer vs Moondog Mayne, Ron Bass and Roddy Piper (Elimination) 2:03:00 - Roddy Piper vs Tony Milan 2:16:00 - Roddy Piper vs Harley Race (NWA World Title Match): 2:32:00 - Great Goliath vs Hector Guerrero (Piper Special Ref) 2:47:00 - Buddy Rose vs Jerry Monti ? 2:59:00 - Roddy Piper vs ? 3:12:00 - Roddy Piper & Ron Bass vs Terry Sawyer & Black Gordman 3:30:00 - Roddy Piper vs Rick Thompson 3:39:00 - Roddy Piper vs Pepper Gomez clip in Cow Palace 3:49:00 - Buddy Rose & Texas Red vs Pepper Gomez & Takashi Ishikawa (Onome) 4:01:00 - (Brown Haired) Kevin Sullivan vs Bob Roop clips in Cow Palace 4:09:00 - Kevin Sullivan & Barry Orton vs The Von Steigers (Karl von Steiger & Kurt von Steiger) 4:19:00 - Alexei Smirnoff vs Juan Mercado (NWA San Francisco United States Title) 4:34:00 - Ray Stevens vs Johnny Karisma 4:49:00 - Von Steigers vs ??? 4:52:00 - Cow Palace Clips - Ray Stevens vs One of the Von Steigers 4:58:00 - Bob Roop vs Dean Ho 5:09:00 - Bob Roop & Barry Orton vs Dean Ho & Kevin Sullivan 5:22:00 - Kevin Sullivan vs Johnny Karisma 5:28:00 - A bunch on minute long matches ft Black Gordman, Mando Guerrero, Victor Rivera 5:32:00 - A brawl between El Negro (um, yeah) and one of the Guerreros ? 5:35:00 - Rick Thompson vs Don Muraco
 
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