WWF Survivor Series 1990

[KingPK]

I don't feel like doing a recap of this show, but I remember watching it on CoD and it was good.

Warrior's white title belt was fucking awesome. At one point he just CHUCKS Perfect over the top rope. Perfect was insane.

 

[KingPK]

The Undertaker really was something COMPLETELY different in the WWF at the time. It's amazing. Not exactly a cartoon character, but just different

 

[KingPK]

The little mini-match Bret and DiBiase have is so good. It's too bad we never had an IC or World title feud between these guys.

 

[BlackFlagg]

This was the first live event I went to, good times

 

[Taxman]

I must've rented this show at least a thousand times as a kid. This show will always be one of my favorites.

 

[Dobbs3K]

Did a lot of fans know a new character would be debuting on Dibiase's team, or did most people assume it would be a returning superstar? I was 10 years old at the time and had no idea who it would be.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah, this might be the show I've rewatched the most times. Certainly in the top three. I really, really love it even as an embittered smark even though none of the matches are particularly great (although Dream Team Vs The Million Dollar Team is fun).

 

[Robert]

Yeah, I re-watched the hell out of my copy (With countdown show intact) and it also had the NBC special on the same tape.

 

[MillenniumMan831]

Did a lot of fans know a new character would be debuting on Dibiase's team, or did most people assume it would be a returning superstar? I was 10 years old at the time and had no idea who it would be.

Not knowing what was going on being 8 years old, I thought it was going to be the Dynamite Kid (being that Davey Boy Smith made his WWF return shortly before this event). And if it wasn't him, by golly, ol DK was coming out of that egg.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Did a lot of fans know a new character would be debuting on Dibiase's team, or did most people assume it would be a returning superstar? I was 10 years old at the time and had no idea who it would be.

It was known it was going to be 'Mean' Mark Callous. The gimmick was not known.

 

[snuffbox]

If you had cable then, you could more than likely follow both WWF and WCW. If you were, you would have noticed Callous' disappearance from WCW and counted him among the likely choices for that spot. But unless you were at the tv taping with "Cain the Undertaker" you probably had no clue about the gimmick.

This is a really fun show. And the Dream Team vs Million $ Team is one of the more historically important matches from a Survivor Series. Debut of Undertaker and the mini-match with Bret and DiBiase is a good start to the singles push that Hart would get within a few months.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Watching this right now. I don't remember Roddy Piper cutting a promo on Saddam Hussein at the top of the show. I think they're using the PPV version of this show FWIW.

Ax's look here is really half assed (done on purpose as he revealed in a shoot interview). He looks like a dad at a weird bondage club who's afraid that someone he knows will see him. Anyway, this is his last match.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Warrior's half assed facepaint job seems to spoil that he's going to make it to the Ultimate Survivor match.

Even though he was sole survivor, it's kind of a sign how much steam had gone off Warrior that he's inserting himself in the LOD-Demolition feud. Perfect's beef was with KVE at this point, I think not Warrior.

I never got why LOD-Demolition didn't get a proper blowoff. They probably should have done it at the '91 Rumble but after it became Smash & Crush, Demolition became irrelevant fast.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

This is definitely the PPV version of the show since they plug Main Event on NBC. I don't remember this promo with The Vipers where they're hanging out in the shower with Damian and Mean Gene. Great promo by Jake.

I always point out that Power & Glory have the shortest tights I've ever seen worn by dudes in pro wrestling. I don't usually look for those things but it's hard to not notice when a third of the guy's asscheek is hanging out of the trunks. I smell a little bit of gay, etc.

Roddy Piper saying that Rick Martel must get as many chicks as Peter Townshend is a very weird joke. This must have been around the time that Pete Townshend did that interview where he sort of but not really came out as bisexual.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Alliance Vs The Mercenaries might be my least favorite traditional Survivor Series match. Crappy teams, crappy match, godawful finish. The referee behind the awful finish...none other than Danny Davis! Even after his gimmick stopped being "Terrible Ref", he still was a terrible ref.

Nikolai Volkoff's quest for revenge on Slaughter went about as bad as you could expect. In fact, his brief push in the Summer of '90 aside, Volkoff had a terrible '90s in WWF. Beat by the Hart Foundation in less than thirty seconds at WrestleMania VI, this, the LVP of the '92 Royal Rumble (I do get a laugh of Gorilla Monsoon talking about how much Volkoff winning the WWF World Title would mean for Lithuania then Volkoff getting eliminated like two seconds later). The hilarious "Nikolai Volkoff is broke/being humiliated by Ted DiBiase/homeless" angle

Roddy Piper: (on Tito Santana) You fight a Latin person, you're in for a fight!

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Worst traditional Survivor Series match for me is Team Yoko vs. Team Vader from 96. Lame mystery partner, a dozen completely blown moves/spots, and a finish in which there are no survivors. Ugh...

The opener from 1997 is pretty bad too.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Yeah that was strange. Were they just pressed for time and called an audible? It seemed odd that they would re-introduce Jimmy Snuka, debut 2 Cold Scorpio as Flash Funk and Farooq in his new Nation gimmick and just throw the whole match out a few minutes in.

For what it's worth, the mystery partner was supposedly set to be Savage but he decided to re-sign with WCW insteasd.

My least favorite Survivor Series rules match by the way is Bulldog/Posse vs Venis/Henry/Blackman/Gangrel.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

'96 one does suck and it really does feel like they originally had a lot more time and it got cut short. I would have rather had them just axe the match from the card and do it on RAW rather than try to cram it in a five minute spot

I'm kind of forgetting a lot of the late '90s/'00s ones and there are probably some super horrible ones there. Sgt. Slaughter/Jim Duggan/Texas Tornado/Tito Santana Vs Col. Mustafa/Hercules/Skinner/The Berzerker from '91 is another really, really bad early Survivor Series match.

Another thing about '90 is they have a lot of random final member of the losing team. Pre singles push Bret Hart is the last man eliminated from the Dream Team, Barbarian is the last man on the Natural Disasters, and post singles push Hercules is the last member of the heel Survivor Series team. I forgot how rushed the Ultimate Survivor match is. Didn't even go ten minutes and a lot of the eliminations felt super rushed. But hey it's not like there wasn't something in the show that they could have cut time from to give it more time..

Actually, most notable thing about this show is it has one of the best (if not the best) debuts in WWF history and it also has the absolute worst debut in WWF history.

 

[Skywarp!]

The Visionaries were the first SS team to win with all members surviving.

Jannetty has a wicked mini-match with the Warlord in that one.

 

[BruiserBrody]

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[JN News]

My favorite part of this show was Sgt. Slaughter's super awesome heel promo being an American traitor to this country and being an Iraqi sympathizer. I dare you guys to find a better heel promo.

 

[snuffbox]

Still one of my favorite ppvs but I know it's mostly a nostalgia thing.

 

[BruiserBrody]

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Duggan looks like he really got in shape for this. Seems beefier in the arms. Pecs are defined. Belly is trim.

 

[snuffbox]

Makes the highlights stand out even more

 

[BruiserBrody]

Piper returns in ring (off camera) a few weeks before this PPV. I wonder if they didn't want to try and slot Piper in somewhere in case his knee/hip whatever didn't heal on time?
I guess that doesn't explain his absence in ring from Rumble and Mania....and Summerslam....

Odd to bench one of your biggest names.

They show a Piper vs Perfect match on Maple Leaf TV in March despite Piper working his crutch gimmick on TV.

How odd are these local promos if Piper is on TV hobbled while cutting promos for a title match in the next segment???

 

[strummer]

Watching the ultimate survivor match. Hogan selling for Roma is surreal. Of course Hogan pins him of a clothesline. But still...