The Meltzer Thread

[909]

Wow at a ladder match with one spot getting liked that much. The six man on night two wasn’t much worse than the Andrade tag on night one which is super overrated too. He’s playing favorites again with underrating and overrating stuff.

 

[tekcop]

That ladder match was everything I hate about WWE ladder matches: too many people, tired spots, tons of setup, announcers losing their mind of the same spot they've seen a dozen times already. I couldn't finish it.

 

[Epic Springs]

I understand they were trying to get their future stars and established vets onto the show but 12 people is way too much for a ladder match.

 

[King Kamala]

See I thought I liked that ladder match more than most but it was like *** like not ****1/4!

 

[Lazgistics Supervisor]

That ladder match was everything I hate about WWE ladder matches: too many people, tired spots, tons of setup, announcers losing their mind of the same spot they've seen a dozen times already. I couldn't finish it.

See, I thought it was one of the best WWE ladder matches in a long time, and it's because there wasn't any major down time. Something was always happening, people were working even when they weren't in the spotlight, and the big "break the ladder" spot didn't feel especially contrived (plus, it was a 3 Stooges kind of spot).

There was a long tenure of every WWE ladder match being "nothing happens unless it's center stage," and more time for obvious set up than delivery. This didn't lean as hard into that as normal, and while it's not a great ladder match (I don't think there's been a truly great one since maybe the Briscoes/Steenerico Ladder War in 2007)? It was fun as hell.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

A ladder match for me at this point needs to just be an insane car crash spectacle of idiocy. I've seen nearly everything. I need to be shocked out of my apathy. I don't want anyone to get HURT or anything but I want to go HOLY SHIT IS THAT GUY DEAD? if you're going to put something like that on. I don't want to notice that you're using precut tables and ladders with tape and shit.

 

[JHawk]

Dave Meltzer telling me everything WWE did WrestleMania weekend was worse than the Best Friends-Santana/Ortiz street fight on a pandemic Dynamite is why I can't take any of his ratings seriously.

 

[Valeyard]

A ladder match where it's technical wrestling with guys trying to take out each other's arms and legs so they can't climb or grab with a couple big spots at the end would be nice.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I loathe the Best Friends with every fiber of my being but that street fight was fucking fantastic.

 

[Lazgistics Supervisor]

A ladder match where it's technical wrestling with guys trying to take out each other's arms and legs so they can't climb or grab with a couple big spots at the end would be nice.

Closest is probably Jericho/Benoit from Rumble '01

 

[Valeyard]

I bet Bryan could master it.

 

[BUTT]

A ladder match where the belt doesn’t descend from the rafters until 15 minutes into the match could be a fun idea. Test it out on the next ROH show that nobody watches.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782243983273742378

Dear Lord the scale is going to be broken again.

 

[909]

What he said is true

 

[Hawk 34]

Congrats to AJ Styles after 2 decades of being considered one of the top professional wrestlers in the world for finally being worthy of a five star singles match according to Meltzer.

yes you read that right, for some absurd reason the Boneyard Match didn’t get its proper acknowledgment.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I would say that AJ not having a 5 star match before now is dave's most absurd thing but it's not as bad as Bryan not having one before AEW. Extremely close. There is no way that modern Dave watching the exact dame Danielson ROH matches wouldn't be handing out stars like candy.

 

[Hawk 34]

He also had multiple matches that are absolutely in his “criteria” for that status in WWE but somehow it wasn’t until he got in the ring with Omega, did Dave finally discover who Danielson was.

 

[Lazgistics Supervisor]

Dave giving Punk/Joe the full 5 and not any of the Danielson/LowKi, Danielson/Morishima, or Danielson/McGuinness clinics the full 5 is when I realized his ratings didn't matter.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789101353794461922

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789537455789506921

 

[strummer]

I'm surprised Dave's rant didn't pick up more steam over the weekend. I will say .Sean Ross .Sapp really seems to want people in wwe to like him

And just as I type that Fightful takes a shot at Dave.