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A Game of Thrones: Season 8

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I've read a lot (maybe here?) about the production staff being physically spent just making these six episodes. That probably has more to do with there only being six episodes/one final season than anything.
 
D&D got their Star Wars jobs and basically said “Fuck GoT”.

The writing this season has made me care even less about the new Star Wars movies.
 
I hadn't seen the Star Wars news. Brutal. That lead me to David Benioff's wiki entry and I'm just finding out today that he co-wrote X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The writing was on the wall, lol.
 
This is the same guy that made Deadpool a mute
 
Also does Bran not care anymore? Cause he could have warged in Drogon and stopped Dany from torching KL if he wanted, right?
 
Agreed. Bran warging into a Dragon is something that's been talked about as much as Clegane Bowl ever has. Sad that they didn't even bother to attempt it.

Also, this dude nails it:

https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/1127765191557623808
 
cobainwasmurdered said:
The people who are unhappy about Jaime's death and him running to Cersei are a bit more understandable but I don't agree with them. I see people say it negated his character growth and things but I don't think so. He became a selfless person (or at least a much less selfish one) but at the end he couldn't escape love and fate. That's been a pretty common theme. He also said previously that he wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loved so he got what he wanted.

I was mostly fine with Jaime winding up back with Cersei. Though having him go through the trouble of breaking Brienne's heart last week seems a bit unnecessary, at the moment, which left a bad taste for many. I wish they had ended the Jaime/Brienne arc with her getting knighted.

Also, as great as the Jaime/Tyrion scene was, hearing him say that he never really cared about innocents seemed sort of out of character, given his history of saving all the innocents from the Mad King. Not to mention his sense of duty that compelled him to go north and fight for the living.

I was disappointed he didn't get a bit more of heroic death or moment. There was that scene from season 4, I think, where Joffrey openly mocks him about his section in the Book of Brothers lacking any heroic deeds. Obviously he's always had the Mad King, but I was hoping his retort of, "There's still time" was foreshadowing something particularly notable.
 
The only thing in the episode that made sense which was The Hound having to confront his fear of fire to kill The Mountain.

I feel like Grey Worm's death warrant was signed last night too. No way he goes off the rails like that and doesn't pay for it, even if the reason was because he's devastated by Missandei's death.
 
Imagine instead of Jon Snow, King of the North, Hero of The Long Night and various other titles and homorifics leading an army of Northmen, it was Tywin Lannister leading an army of Lannister soldiers and one of them tried to rape someone and Tywin said no. And then they attacked him. Or if someone not even part of the Lannister army threw a spear at beaten, surrendered foes and all hell broke loose.

But it happened with Jon. That’s shitty writing.
 
It's shitty writing but I think it was also done to bring the men of the north back down to earth and humanize them. Yes they found common cause with the wildlings and managed to band together to repel and defeat the Night King but now that they're back to living in the realms of men that doesn't mean that they lose their nature.

Jorah had a good line to Dany in one of the earlier season and I'm paraphrasing here but it's something like "There is a beast in every man and when you put a sword in that mans hand the beast stirs". That's what we saw last night.
 
Last weeks was apparently the lowest rated episode in series history on IMDB.

https://culturedvultures.com/the-last-of-the-starks-game-of-thrones-episode-imdb/

Currently sitting at a 7.7/10 on IMDb from 16,543 reviews at this time of writing, criticisms levied at ‘The Last of the Starks’ are numerous. Almost all of the written reviews we saw were negative, and focus on characters completely forgetting, well, their character, terrible decision making from major players who should be smarter, and coincidence after coincidence piling up on top of lazy writing.
 
AA484 said:
I've read a lot (maybe here?) about the production staff being physically spent just making these six episodes. That probably has more to do with there only being six episodes/one final season than anything.

Yeah, they just couldn't do anymore. The production designer said...

Deborah Riley: We had too much work to do in the time that we had. It was at the point where even getting more people didn't help because you'd need people with a certain skill, a certain amount of work to happen in a limited space. There comes a point where you're not working efficiently if you're crowding.

We were exhausted. What you see on camera was reflected in everybody. It wasn't just the characters going through it but the crew too. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of what it was like for us at the time

It was a fantastic thing to be involved in but none of it was fun. We did the best we possibly could given the time that we had and that was a huge achievement in itself. I was very proud to have survived.

Another guy said this:

Back when he first joined the HBO series in 2014, Gower’s work focused on just six White Walkers. But in the show’s last few seasons, he managed a team of about 70 to 80 people on set, spending weeks crafting prosthetics for characters and working more than 15 hours a day to apply prosthetics, remove them, and stand by for any necessary fixes on set.

“Game of Thrones is undoubtedly the toughest project I’ve ever worked on,” Gower tells MONEY. “Each season has grown and grown, but on average, we had hundreds of makeups and gags to do each year.”

“The workload has had us in tears at times,” Gower says, “but also has been the best experience of my career.”

What we see on the show is the maximum limit of what the crew was physically and mentally capable of achieving.
 
I don't think anyone is disputing the crews work or the production value.
 
no fact said:
I don't think anyone is disputing the crews work or the production value.

No, of course not. But people are saying the show feels rushed and that is an explanation of why it had to be this way.
 
I think that fault lies with the showrunners. HBO had apparently offered them more episodes and more time, but they told them they could do it in six.
 
I read the spoilers on r/freefolk and I would never dream of spoiling anyone here... but I'm getting Dexter becomes a lumberjack vibes from them. I'm desperately hoping they aren't true.

Except there's this: when asked to describe the finale in one word... contracted actor and star of the show Kit Harrington went with disappointing.

https://news.avclub.com/in-retrospect-it-sorta-seems-like-game-of-thrones-cast-1834727627
 
It was a fantastic thing to be involved in but none of it was fun. We did the best we possibly could given the time that we had and that was a huge achievement in itself. I was very proud to have survived.
::)
 
Leaks were spot on. To call it "hot garbage" would be a disservice to actual hot garbage.
 
Eh, I didn't hate it. Maybe I'm making that decision based on how subpar the rest of the season was as a whole.
 
I liked the season a lot. That said the finale was a retarded dumpster baby.
 
Hopefully the books go another direction. Not that I have an issue with the way the show went. But I like the idea of having two different stories at the end.
 
Took me way too long to realize that was Robin Arryn hanging with the other lords at the big meeting. Always a pleasure seeing Edmur’s little bitch ass get knocked back down to earth.

My main complaint is that I have an impossible time imagining that Grey Worm would just let the lords decide what’s what and give up Jon like that.

Also not sure everyone would be on board with King Bran because Tyrion says so. Not everyone should be up on all this three eyes raven stuff. And while he doesn’t consider himself a Stark anymore, he needs more of an official name and less of a nickname if he’s going to rule.
 
Grey Worm had no business surviving any of this season.

Now that I've let it settle, I still don't like it, but I knew going in this year nothing would live up to any expectations. Ah well. We'll always have Battle of the Bastards.
 
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