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Gary
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At this point, I'm convinced at least a dozen of the Blue check accounts praising him for this are just ones he made. Like it's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.
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Probably his creepiest tweet, and that covers a lot of ground.
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He definitely followed it up with his worst.
Yeah tweeting out an essential death threat to the president and VP is a new low. He kknew how bad he fucked up considering he deleted it too.
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Not Twitter but Elon Musk related so this is what I needed...
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X/Twitter Is Making More Changes to the Block Button, Making Posts From Public Accounts Visible to Everyone - IGN
X/Twitter is set to make even more changes to the block function, with Elon Musk confirming that "the block function will block that account from engaging with, but not block seeing, public post."
If he could, he'd get rid of the function entirely.
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Journalist Ken Klippenstein Suspended By X After Publishing Hacked JD Vance Dossier
Independent journalist Ken Klippenstein was suspended from X after published the hacked dossier compiled by the Trump campaign on JD Vance.
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More free speech, Porky Pig fake ass libertarian style.
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After news of DOJ warning, Elon Musk's super PAC didn't announce 'daily' lottery winner on Wednesday
Elon Musk's super PAC didn't announce a winner for its "daily" $1 million giveaway to registered swing state voters on Wednesday, the same day news broke that the Justice Department warned Musk’s group that its sweepstakes might be illegal.
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Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin
Story by Thomas Grove, Warren P. Strobel, Aruna Viswanatha, Gordon Lubold, Sam Schechner
Elon Musk, the world’s richest man and a linchpin of U.S. space efforts, has been in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin since late 2022.
The discussions, confirmed by several current and former U.S., European and Russian officials, touch on personal topics, business and geopolitical tensions.
At one point, Putin asked the billionaire to avoid activating his Starlink satellite internet service over Taiwan as a favor to Chinese leader Xi Jinping, said two people briefed on the request.
Musk has emerged this year as a crucial supporter of Donald Trump’s election campaign, and could find a role in a Trump administration should he win. While the U.S. and its allies have isolated Putin in recent years, Musk’s dialogue could signal re-engagement with the Russian leader, and reinforce Trump’s expressed desire to cut a deal over major fault lines such as the war in Ukraine.
At the same time, the contacts also raise potential national-security concerns among some in the current administration, given Putin’s role as one of America’s chief adversaries.
Musk has forged deep business ties with U.S. military and intelligence agencies, giving him unique visibility into some of America’s most sensitive space programs. SpaceX, which operates the Starlink service, won a $1.8 billion classified contract in 2021 and is the primary rocket launcher for the Pentagon and NASA. Musk has a security clearance that allows him access to certain classified information.
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© Samuel Corum/Bloomberg News
Knowledge of Musk’s Kremlin contacts appears to be a closely held secret in government. Several White House officials said they weren’t aware of them. The topic is highly sensitive, given Musk’s increasing involvement in the Trump campaign and the approaching U.S. presidential election, less than two weeks away.
Musk didn’t respond to requests for comment. The billionaire has called criticism from some quarters that he has become an apologist for Putin “absurd” and has said his companies “have done more to undermine Russia than anything.”
During his campaign swing through Pennsylvania last week, Musk talked about the importance of government transparency and noted his own access to government secrets. “I do have a top-secret clearance, but, I’d have to say, like most of the stuff that I’m aware of…the reason they keep it top secret is because it’s so boring.”
A Pentagon spokesman said: “We do not comment on any individual’s security clearance, review or status, or about personnel security policy matters in the context of reports about any individual’s actions.”
One person aware of the conversations said the government faces a dilemma because it is so dependent on the billionaire’s technologies. SpaceX launches vital national security satellites into orbit and is the company NASA relies on to transport astronauts to and from the International Space Station.
“They don’t love it,” the person said, referring to the Musk-Putin contacts. The person, however, said no alerts have been raised by the administration over possible security breaches by Musk.
Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the only communication the Kremlin has had with Musk was over one telephone call in which he and Putin discussed “space as well as current and future technologies.”
Apart from that, he said neither Putin nor Kremlin officials were holding regular conversations with Musk.
A spokeswoman for Trump’s campaign called Musk “a once-in-a-generation industry leader” and said “our broken federal bureaucracy could certainly benefit from his ideas and efficiency.”
“As for Putin,” the spokeswoman continued, “there’s only one candidate in the race that he did not invade another country under, and it’s President Trump. President Trump has long said that he will re-establish his peace through strength foreign policy to deter Russia’s aggression and end the war in Ukraine.”
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© chandan khanna/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
A bottle of vodka
Musk has long had a fascination with Russia and its space and rocket programs. Walter Isaacson’s biography of Musk said the businessman traveled to Moscow in 2002 to negotiate the purchase of rockets for his fledgling space program, but passed out during a vodka-heavy lunch. The sale ultimately failed, though his Russian hosts gave Musk a bottle of vodka with his likeness superimposed on a drawing of Mars.
The billionaire’s conversations with Putin and Kremlin officials highlight his increasing inclination to stretch beyond business and into geopolitics. He has met several times and talked business with Javier Milei of Argentina, as well as former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, whom he defended in an acrimonious online debate.
Putin is on a different order of magnitude. The Russian leader has created an authoritarian system that oversees fraudulent elections and the assassinations of political opponents, for which President Biden called him a “killer.” With keys to one of the world’s most powerful nuclear arsenals and growing territorial ambitions in Europe, Putin has become the U.S.’s chief antagonist.
Labeling him a “despot,” the Treasury Department took the unusual step in 2022 of blacklisting him for invading Ukraine, putting him in the same company with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus.
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© sputnik/Reuters
In October 2022, Musk said publicly that he had spoken only once to Putin. He said on X that the conversation was about space, and that it occurred around April 2021.
But more conversations have followed, including dialogues with other high-ranking Russian officials past 2022 and into this year. One of the officials was Sergei Kiriyenko, Putin’s first deputy chief of staff, two of the officials said. What the two talked about isn’t clear.
Last month, the U.S. Justice Department said in an affidavit that Kiriyenko had created some 30 internet domains to spread Russian disinformation, including on Musk’s X, where it was meant to erode support for Ukraine and manipulate American voters ahead of the presidential election.
After the Russian invasion in February 2022, Musk at first made strong public statements of support for Kyiv. He posted “Hold Strong Ukraine,” flanked by Ukrainian flags on what was then still known as Twitter. Shortly after, he jokingly challenged Putin to one-on-one combat over “Україна,” the Ukrainian language name for the country.
He followed up by donating several hundred Starlink terminals to Ukraine. By July some 15,000 terminals were providing free internet access to broad swaths of the country destroyed by the Russian attacks.
Later that year, Musk’s view of the conflict appeared to change. In September, Ukrainian military operatives weren’t able to use Starlink terminals to guide sea drones to attack a Russian naval base in Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula Moscow had occupied since 2014. Ukraine tried to persuade Musk to activate the Starlink service in the area, but that didn’t happen, the Journal has reported.
His space company extended restrictions on the use of Starlink in offensive operations by Ukraine. Musk said later that he made the move because Starlink is meant for civilian uses and that he believed any Ukrainian attack on Crimea could spark a nuclear war.
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© Reuters
His moves coincided with public and private pressure from the Kremlin. In May 2022, Russia’s space chief said in a post on Telegram that Musk would “answer like an adult” for supplying Starlink to Ukraine’s Azov battalion, which the Kremlin had singled out for the ultraright ideology espoused by some members.
Later in 2022, Musk was having regular conversations with “high-level Russians,” according to a person familiar with the interactions. At the time, there was pressure from the Kremlin on Musk’s businesses and “implicit threats against him,” the person said.
At the same time, Musk increasingly took to Twitter, for which he was completing the purchase, to say SpaceX was losing money by funding the operation of the terminals.
In October 2022, he asked his tens of millions of followers on X to vote on a pathway to peace that mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin’s offer to Ukraine at the time.
Those conditions included continued Russian occupation of Crimea and Ukrainian neutrality outside of NATO. He also specified that Ukraine should continue allowing the supply of water to Crimea, an issue that had been an important concern of the Kremlin before the war.
One current and one former intelligence source said that Musk and Putin have continued to have contact since then and into this year as Musk began stepping up his criticism of the U.S. military aid to Ukraine and became involved in Trump’s election campaign.
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© Alex Brandon/Associated Press
‘Red lines’
In the fall of 2022, political scientist Ian Bremmer, founder of New York-based consulting firm Eurasia Group, wrote on Twitter that Musk had told him he had spoken with Putin and Kremlin officials about Ukraine. “He also told me what the Kremlin’s red lines were,” he wrote.
Bremmer wrote in a newsletter to subscribers that Musk had relayed to him a message from Putin that Russia would secure Crimea and Ukrainian neutrality “no matter what,” and that it would respond to a Ukrainian invasion of Crimea with a nuclear strike. Musk said that “everything needed to be done to avoid that outcome,” Bremmer wrote.
Musk has publicly denied he said any of those things to Bremmer.
In the past year, Musk and Russia’s interests have increasingly overlapped. Apart from Russia’s use of X for disinformation and Musk’s outspoken opposition to aid to Kyiv, Ukrainian officials said earlier this year that Russian forces occupying the country’s eastern and southern swaths had started using Starlink to enable secure communications and extend the range of their drones.
Russian troops also began using Starlink terminals, brought in through third countries, at a massive scale, undermining one of Ukraine’s few battlefield advantages. Musk has said on X that to the best of his knowledge, no terminals had been sold directly or indirectly to Russia, and that the terminals wouldn’t work inside Russia.
Pentagon officials have said the military was working with Ukraine and Starlink to address the issue, and described SpaceX as a great partner in those efforts. People familiar with the situation have said controlling who is using Starlink in Ukraine is difficult.
Starlink has said on X that when SpaceX learns of claims that unauthorized parties are using the service, it investigates and can cut off access.
Earlier this year, Musk gave airtime to Putin and his views on the U.S. and Ukraine when X carried Tucker Carlson’s two-hour interview with the Russian leader inside the Kremlin. In that interview, Putin said he was sure Musk “was a smart person.”
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin© Michael Swensen/Getty Images
“There’s no stopping Elon Musk, he’s going to do what he thinks he needs to do,” Putin said. “You need to find some common ground with him, you need to search for some ways to persuade him.”
Late last year, the Kremlin first made the request of Musk to not activate Starlink over Taiwan, said a former Russian intelligence officer briefed on the situation. The request was done as a favor to China, he said, whom Russia was increasingly relying on for trade and to get around sanctions. A representative of the Chinese embassy in Washington said they weren’t aware of the specifics and couldn’t comment.
Starlink has never secured permission to offer internet service in Taiwan, whose government places restrictions on non-Taiwanese satellite operators.
Taiwan is currently listed as “coming soon” on a Starlink map of where it provides service.
As the year progressed, Musk became more preoccupied with the presidential election.
Through the first months of the year, Musk said he would refrain from backing any presidential candidate while at the same time holding private conversations discussing how he could get Trump elected. Musk publicly endorsed him in July. The businessman said he planned to commit as much as $45 million a month to a new super political-action committee in part to get it done, according to people familiar with the matter. The effort included hiring armies of canvassers to scour battleground states for voters.
Since then, Trump has said he intends to make Musk the head of a “government efficiency commission.” The two speak often.
Micah Maidenberg and Tim Higgins contributed to this article.
Write to Thomas Grove at thomas.grove@wsj.com, Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com, Aruna Viswanatha at aruna.viswanatha@wsj.com, Gordon Lubold at gordon.lubold@wsj.com and Sam Schechner at Sam.Schechner@wsj.com
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lol he's bullying people in their dm's now.
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Not to defend Elon, because fuuuuck that guy, I think she mentioned further down in the thread the DM screenshot was fake.
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A lot of people are telling me to sign up for Bluesky which is Twitter but for Liberals. I like reading opposing viewpoints so is there a platform that isn't all leftists but isn't the MAGA cesspool that Twitter's become?
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Congress has already passed laws that will make that extremely difficult so that feels like an empty threat. And of course if Twitter suffers Trumps social media platform does better.
Did someone say left echo chamber? Perfect! https://bsky.app/profile/culturexfire.bsky.social
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I just joined Bluesky and it is largely to hedge bets on a Twitter fail or mass exodus. So much of our podcast’s interaction is on Twitter. If college athletics migrates there, we must follow.
I don’t think it is a liberal echo chamber. I think it is a fresh start opportunity for most and getting away from forced algorithms for just about all. We have a follower that supports Trump and posts conservative views on Twitter and he joined recently as well. You’re going to have both sides on there, but your feed can be what you want instead of what Elon Musk wants you to have.
I’ll still need to be on Twitter if that is where the interaction with college athletics is, but it won’t hurt me to cross-post to Bluesky to be prepared or a Twitter collapse.
I don’t think it is a liberal echo chamber. I think it is a fresh start opportunity for most and getting away from forced algorithms for just about all. We have a follower that supports Trump and posts conservative views on Twitter and he joined recently as well. You’re going to have both sides on there, but your feed can be what you want instead of what Elon Musk wants you to have.
I’ll still need to be on Twitter if that is where the interaction with college athletics is, but it won’t hurt me to cross-post to Bluesky to be prepared or a Twitter collapse.
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I’ve had a Bluesky account for about a year. Let it collect dust for months before jumping back on over the past week.
With the latest influx of users, my main takeaway is that it CAN be a liberal echo chamber if that’s what you want, but it doesn’t have to be. You just need to be selective with who you follow.
I mostly post about Cleveland sports, and I try to follow back most people who follow me, at least for a while. In the past few days, I’ve gotten a lot less freewheeling with the follow backs. If I go to your page and your profile and posts all scream politics, I’m not interested, even if I agree with your views. It’s just not why I’m there or what I want from the platform.
With the latest influx of users, my main takeaway is that it CAN be a liberal echo chamber if that’s what you want, but it doesn’t have to be. You just need to be selective with who you follow.
I mostly post about Cleveland sports, and I try to follow back most people who follow me, at least for a while. In the past few days, I’ve gotten a lot less freewheeling with the follow backs. If I go to your page and your profile and posts all scream politics, I’m not interested, even if I agree with your views. It’s just not why I’m there or what I want from the platform.
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Exactly. Also, you know how when you create a profile for Twitter/Bluesky/etc and it has you pick categories that interest you? I selected Comics as one thinking there may be some news about DC/Marvel for comic books, movies, and shows. Nope. It was one to four panel comics in posts. I clicked the three dots on as many as I could in my feed and selected Less of This. My feed now has none.
You can’t do that on Twitter because Free Speech Musk has his techs constantly changing algorithms to thrust bots and conservative or scum views on your feed. I don’t want ANY politics but certainly not that. Bluesky seems like it will cater to what you want it to cater to.
You can’t do that on Twitter because Free Speech Musk has his techs constantly changing algorithms to thrust bots and conservative or scum views on your feed. I don’t want ANY politics but certainly not that. Bluesky seems like it will cater to what you want it to cater to.