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That'd still make her older than Thunder Rosa's son, when he made his debut, yeah? Or Saraya, for that matter. And isn't there some girl who's been wrestling for a couple of years, and only just graduated high school a few weeks ago?

EDIT - Billie Starkz, that's who I was thinking of.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
That'd still make her older than Thunder Rosa's son, when he made his debut, yeah? Or Saraya, for that matter. And isn't there some girl who's been wrestling for a couple of years, and only just graduated high school a few weeks ago?

EDIT - Billie Starkz, that's who I was thinking of.
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I'm not arguing that there's plenty of talent who started under 18 (Rey Mysterio Jr. and Mark Briscoe immediately come to mind), but it seems exploitative in a way that I can't say I'm too comfortable with these days.
 
Yeah it's the Rance thing and the fact her parents had no issue with it more than being a minor training to wrestle.
 
Laz said:
I'm not arguing that there's plenty of talent who started under 18 (Rey Mysterio Jr. and Mark Briscoe immediately come to mind), but it seems exploitative in a way that I can't say I'm too comfortable with these days.
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I can definitely understand having reservations about her being trained by a creep. In the macro, though, what's the difference between a sixteen year-old working as a wrassler/wrassler in training, and having a part-time job at McDonald's? Do we believe that she's going to go and tour Japan at sixteen, or something? If she ends up just working local shows on the weekends, what's the big deal?
 
Competitive gymnastics is probably a more apt comparison. I’m not completely opposed to teenagers involved in wrestling, but you need to have STRICT standards in place as a trainer. No unsupervised training, checks and balances to ensure ethical relationships, an agent/advocate to manage bookings and ensure fair treatment.

I wouldn’t trust the business for anyone who doesn’t have a caregiver already in the industry.
 
alkeiper said:
I wouldn’t trust the business for anyone who doesn’t have a caregiver already in the industry.
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That’s why I’m fine with Nick Wayne and Billie Starks wrestling as teenagers. Their parents are both involved in the business. I don’t get the sense that they’re reckless kids burning both ends of the candle.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
I can definitely understand having reservations about her being trained by a creep. In the macro, though, what's the difference between a sixteen year-old working as a wrassler/wrassler in training, and having a part-time job at McDonald's? Do we believe that she's going to go and tour Japan at sixteen, or something? If she ends up just working local shows on the weekends, what's the big deal?
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I don't know how your McD's works but I don't see anyone get dropped on their head repeatedly at mine. Wrestling as much as we all love it is one of the most scummy businesses out there, with zero regulation and oversight. Al's gymnastics comparison works much better but even they have more oversight than wrestling does.
 
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