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The US embassy in Saudi Arabia has been hit. No reported deaths as of now.

www.aljazeera.com

Iran death toll reaches 555 as US, Israel escalate attacks

Civilian deaths are growing as more attacks are reported in the capital and other parts of the country.
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Current reported death toll in Iran.

We're at 6 US Dead with dozens of seriously injured.


I want @OG to be safe but if Iran has a shot at taking Andrew Tate out...
 
A lot can change in a year and there are a ton of bigger concerns, of course, but at what point does TKO start making contingency plans for next year’s WM?
 
I’m not saying I won’t pay my taxes on April 15th… I’m just waiting to see if WW3 files before I do.
 
Tino Standard said:
A lot can change in a year and there are a ton of bigger concerns, of course, but at what point does TKO start making contingency plans for next year’s WM?
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Whenever their dad, Don, tells them to.
 
Gary said:
Funny how this guy hates Trump until he commits war crimes (this could also describe CNN in a nutshell)
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I don't know how else to put this, but they love Israel, they are Israel First. They don't give a fuck about this country. Some of those antisemitic conspiracies aren't as antisemitic seeming today. They can't be antisemitic if they're true.
 
I mean, they can be. Israel doesn't mean all Jews.
 
Valeyard said:
I mean, they can be. Israel doesn't mean all Jews.
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It doesn't, but 'Israel leads the US into wars' was supposed to be an antisemitic conspiracy theory, and then Marco Rubio and Netanyahu went on TV and told everyone 'yes they led us into this war'
 
True. I just am clarifying for me, really. I just am very careful personally to differentiate Israel and Judaism as a whole in all this, since the shorthand is dangerous and not accurate. Not that I'm saying you're doing that, just that is an issue i see all too frequently lately.
 
Someone smarter than me can explain why Israel supposedly holds so much power over over the US ($$$) but I agree that we need to be careful about separating the actions of the country from everyday Jewish people. No one in this thread is being antisemitic. I just think by saying both are the same, we're getting one step closer into "jews run the world" rhetoric.
 
My understanding is Israel is required for...some biblical thing. The second coming and the rapture maybe? So the fundies need Israel to exist to get to the end times.
 
Smues said:
My understanding is Israel is required for...some biblical thing. The second coming and the rapture maybe? So the fundies need Israel to exist to get to the end times.
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That's it

And you also do have powerful people in the media who:

a. hold dual citizenship with the US and Israel
b. think that their religion is more important than where they live, so supporting Israel is their religious duty. The article posted was a clear case of this.

I'm not religious, but I also know that most every religious person thinks their religion is more important than their country.
 
Smues said:
My understanding is Israel is required for...some biblical thing. The second coming and the rapture maybe? So the fundies need Israel to exist to get to the end times.
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It's the next step toward Armageddon, rise of the Antichrist, return of Jesus, a millennium of peace and prosperity, then a new heaven/new earth.
 
Big Papa Paegan said:
It's the next step toward Armageddon, rise of the Antichrist, return of Jesus, a millennium of peace and prosperity, then a new heaven/new earth.
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It's funny you mention this, because being raised Catholic myself, most of the people I knew from that period to today never bought a lot of that*-it was mostly just accepted as metaphors, and we knew most Evangelicals hated us, so what of it. It also reminds me when I got into a debate with an evangelical girl when I was in high school, and she was genuinely shocked that I didn't believe in stuff like the Rapture, let alone that my parents encouraged me to watch things like Bill Nye and Discovery Channel.

*There were some crazies I knew, but that's a given.
 
I was raised totally non-religious (aside from my Dad trying to force my Mom to take me to church briefly to make himself look good, despite his not attending) because my Mom believed in letting us figure that stuff out as we got older. I always found the Old Testament stuff really silly. A lot of Jesus's stuff made a lot more sense since it was about treating people well.
 
The fundamentalism of American Evangelism is what's driving this, @Gary . Catholicism has openly admitted to most of the Bible being metaphor and allegory, but American Evangelism takes it as the literal word on what has happened and what's to come. Unless...you know...it interferes with something the practitioner wants to do, then it's "let's talk about context" and whatnot.

The Book of Revelation is the end of the New Testament, @cobainwasmurdered .
 
Probably time to start removing tax exempt status. And, after republicans normalized and encoded it, it may be good to have ruinous taxes on mega churches, gop affiliated evangelical churches, etc.
 
snuffbox said:
Probably time to start removing tax exempt status. And, after republicans normalized and encoded it, it may be good to have ruinous taxes on mega churches, gop affiliated evangelical churches, etc.
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The time to do that was decades ago after the Southern Strategy married the right wing with Christian Nationalism. Unfortunately, it will take something trult horrible happening as a result of that union to place limitations on church influence in politics, especially as doing so would technically violate the First Amendment.
 
Constitutional conventions to remove amendment protections for republicans and evangelicals. With the damage done (and ongoing) it may be necessary to make being either of those things a crime. Like with the consequences needed for ice and every single one of its criminals, including all online celebrants, it's not the desired track but sadly this is something that evangelicals and republicans brought to themselves.
 
Big Papa Paegan said:
The fundamentalism of American Evangelism is what's driving this, @Gary . Catholicism has openly admitted to most of the Bible being metaphor and allegory, but American Evangelism takes it as the literal word on what has happened and what's to come. Unless...you know...it interferes with something the practitioner wants to do, then it's "let's talk about context" and whatnot.
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I am very aware of this, which is what makes this so terrifying to me. The fact this country doesn't really have a separation of church and state has been a problem for years (really started to pick up when Reagan offered them support), and I know trying to debate/reason with them is a lost cause.
 
Gary said:
I am very aware of this, which is what makes this so terrifying to me. The fact this country doesn't really have a separation of church and state has been a problem for years (really started to pick up when Reagan offered them support), and I know trying to debate/reason with them is a lost cause.
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When GOLDWATER warned that Christian Nationalists were too hardcore in their beliefs to be trusted, politically, is when it should have been stopped. Barry "I'm a huge fucking dickhead" Goldwater.
 
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