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With this game coming out in a few months, there's been some previews posted on the game already.

Found this while browsing over on the HF boards. seems pretty legit so I figured people may want to check out this guy's impressions.

"Well guys, as I said in the earlier thread, I got another chance to give NHL10 a hands on test drive, and this time, I was able to spend much, much more time with the game (and it appeared to be a slightly more advanced build.)

David Littman said the build that was showcased yesterday was 95 percent done (and the actual gameplay end of things was about 99 percent done.)

I was able to play four full games, and poked around and looked at a lot of the menus, new features, etc. so I have a lot more information and should be able to answer a lot more questions.

Let me just tell you a bunch of random stuff, and if anyone has any questions, I can try to answer.

- They have added a "season" mode, and it allows you to manage up to 30 teams. So if you want to try and mimic the NHL season exactly by making all the roster moves, you can now do that.

- The Fantasy Draft is in.

- Dynasty hasn't just been added to, it's been scrapped and replaced by a MUCH more detailed version called "Be A GM." This mode, quite simply, is awesome. It is a much more detailed, feature rich version of the old Dynasty Mode with a real focus on how you run your club and if you're able to keep your owner happy. Among the cool things here is the fact that EA has fixed a lot of the annoying loop holes that previously existed. In previous versions, you could sign five free agents then trade them off for draft picks or bundle them up for one big star player. You can still do that, but now it will really cost you. As a GM, you have a "reputation." If you do something shady like sign a free agent then quickly trade him, your reputation around the league - and most importantly with players and agents - takes a big hit. You will find that guys - including your own - don't want to sign with you or other GMs have no interest in trading with you. This also solves another little work-around. Previously you could trade a 79 overall guy for an 81 overall guy then swap him for an 83 then an 85, etc until you got a great player. Now trading for a guy then dumping him the same day will hurt your reputation. Also, if you try to "rip off" other GMs by offering stupid lop-sided trades, you will piss off the GMs and hurt your reputation.

Another way you are punished for being a shady GM is by literally losing "phone lines." All of your interactions with other teams are via Blackberry (and they actually have the rights to Blackberry, so a real blackberry pops up on your screen.) If you're a good GM with a good reputation, you can have as many as 5 different Blackberry's. This is useful around the draft or trade deadline day because you have five lines and can receive a ton of different offers. However, if you've got a lousy reputation, you will lose phone lines and, as a result, opportunites to improve and build your team.

You can start the Be A GM mode pre-draft, and a cool little feature thats included is the prospects game. You can actually play this game to get a look at the best draft eligible players in a game situation, or you can simply scout it. At the draft, much like the real one, there's a lot of wheeling and dealing. You can set your trade block, your wants and needs, and see if other teams come biting. You get "calls" on your Blackberry "It's St. Louis, they have the 11th pick. Answer or Ignore?" A lot of trades went down at the draft involving players and picks. The trade AI has been totally revamped. ****** teams like the Leafs and Islanders won't trade their young stars, period. They are rebuilding and will tell you so. Good luck trading for Luke Schenn. Another cool detail that adds realism is players worth actually fluctuates. At the beginning of the season, the trade value for an older veteran isn't too high. However, at the deadline, when his cap hit is small and there's teams looking for veteran leadership, his value goes up. Its worth hanging on to these guys an auctioning them at a higher price.

This mode also has accomplishments can be met that are worth points you can use to improve your staff so you get better medical, better scouting reports, better more accurate trade rumors from around the league, etc. Very, very cool.

- For the Be A Pro fans, there's now a proshop where you can buy new equipment for your player that will give him attribute boosts, much like Tiger Woods.

- Much much more of the games features can be toggled on/off in order to crank up the realism for better players. You can now pick the "style" and if you choose hardcore, its a much tougher game and all sorts of things are now in your control. You can turn off "auto skate back" you can turn off "penalties after the whistle" you can even turn off the clock slown down that happens during powerplays.

- The Swiss National League has been added.

- The New Road to the Cup mode has a lot more then just towels for the fans, as I reported earlier. You can now set up ANY length series for the Cup. It's a good party mode, and it has really cool story telling in it. The announcers - and fans - have a memory of the series. If Justin Williams highsticked Saku Koivu and he's out for the rest of the series, Williams will get booed by the fans in the next game(s.) The announcers will also be aware of the incident and talk about it. When you start the next game, the "story" will be about Williams taking out Koivu. The question is... will you retaliate? Very cool.

- Speaking of injuries ... If a guy gets punched out or a puck in the face, he can return with a black eye. If a guy gets his jaw broken, he can return with a jaw protector on his helmet. Injuries that happen in game now give you an on-screen update about the injured player (during the game) and you can decide if he should hit the showers, stay on the bench, or play hurt. Cool stuff.

- The level of detail in the goaltenders is remarkable. I already talked about the slew of new animations before, but I've noticed some other cool stuff. If you play with a goalie that handles the puck well (Brodeur, Turco) he will be very active with playing the puck. Always jumping out to corral dump ins, skating out to play a puck that drifts into the zone. If the goalie doesnt have those skills, he doesn't. If you play with Tim Thomas, expect to see an unorthodox style. He could be on the ice, on his *** in the splits, while Brodeur will stand up a lot more. The animations are specific to the actual style the real-life goalie plays. Very detailed and the animations are great.

- If you get hooked or knocked down and your a skilled player, its possible to retain possession while on your knees and even shoot (I hit the crossbar wtih Lecavalier from my knees, drew a penalty shot then hit the damn cross bar again.)

- This one almost seems too good to be true, but I played a few full games and watched several more and I'm here to tell you the money-shot one-timer goal..... is dead. Obviously you can still score with one timers but not nearly with the frequency you could before. And you can one time loose pucks which is awesome. I scored three goals with Matt D'Agostini in three different games all loose puck one timers that he wired. Sweeet.

- It's gonna take a lot of people some time to realize that the game is different and they will likely take A LOT of penalties at first. (obviously penalty frequency can be toggled) but there's a lot of scrums now that can easily lead to fights or penalties. I face-washed a guy and got a Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty, so its quite detailed. A cool little animation exists where if you have the option to drop your gloves (it asks you, and tells you who the combatants are) and you don't drop them your guy will be wiggling his gloves as if to say "you wanna go? You wanna go?" There's a another cool animation if you drop a guy in a fight where your guy tumbles down on top of him the winner of the fight pulls a punch as if he's gonna drill the guy while he's turtled. He never does fire the punch though!

- The highest compliment I can give the new board play feature is that it feels totally organic to the game and not like something that was "added in." In fact, it feels like it was always there, but it really adds a wrinkle of realism. If you get tied up, you can try to kick the puck to your teammate, but, because its kicking, its not moving fast and be intercepted. Your fourth line slugs that never played in any other version of NHL, are really quite useful now because they can go out there and grind out a shift where there hits and pinning of guys actually intimidates and wears down your opponent. Ditto for big defenseman. I watched Hal Gill totally dominate Brian Gionta along the boards in one shift. (The rosters were pre-free agency.) It was really cool to see, Gill just neutralized and Gionta couldn't overpower Gill. But be aware of the puck, if the player kicks it away and you still hit him or pin him, it can be an interference penalty.

- The demo, which has no release date, will be different in terms of what you get to do then previous versions. Littman said it's a "very cool demo." Not a lot of info there!

- None of the new features for the EAHL or Be A Pro were revealed, they will be announced in 2 or 3 weeks.

That's all I can remember right now, guys."

Finally a fantasy draft!

More info on the game can be found at Operationsports.com
 

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All I want is customizable controls. They had the menu for it in 09 but it wasn't working. I can't stand the way they have shooting set up now. I want to be able to set it up so shooting uses the buttons.
 
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You can definitely use the buttons in 09. All that info for 10 sounds amazing.
 

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Matt Young said:
You can definitely use the BUTTons in 09. All that info for 10 sounds amazing.

I'm assuming you mean the classic control scheme. That doesn't work as it prevents you from using the stick defensively. I tried playing this way online and got my ass handed to me.
 

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Obi Chris Kenobi said:
Franchise mode sounds promising, hopefully some of that is shared with Madden/Fifa

Fantasy draft has been in Madden since... god knows when. As far back as I can remember. NHL has always gotten the short end.
 
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Vigo said:
Matt Young said:
You can definitely use the BUTTons in 09. All that info for 10 sounds amazing.

I'm assuming you mean the classic control scheme. That doesn't work as it prevents you from using the stick defensively. I tried playing this way online and got my ass handed to me.

Yeah... There's no hybrid control scheme.
 

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Downloading the demo now. From what I'm reading of impressions, you have to play as the Pengwhines. Ugh. Still, though, I traded NHL 09 towards Madden, so it's my only hockey fix for a while.
 

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Red Baron said:
I'm assuming Jim Hughston is the commentator again.

No, it hasn't been Hughson for a while. I got the demo last night, it's the same guys from last year (Clement and Thorne?).

Even though the demo I played was only the third period of 'Cup' mode, it's pretty awesome. The game story, pinning guys to the boards, the small details like towels - very impressed so far.
 

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Wario Lemieux said:
Ugh. Still, though, I traded NHL 09 towards Madden, so it's my only hockey fix for a while.

I'm in the exact same boat. It hadn't really hit me yet how close we are to hockey (either in video game or NHL form) the way it's hit me with football, but playing this demo really got me excited again.
 

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Played the demo a bit. Feels a lot like last years, which is a great thing. Hard to get a feel for the subtleties of the game since there is no Instant Replay in the demo. First person fighting will take some getting used to, but at least now it feels more like a hockey fight. A lot of the models and animations seem to be from last years game, but it also seemed like they added a new layer of paint to the game textures. I'm also glad to see that they now have the Stanly Cup Final logo on the ice during the finals. Gonna pre-order the game tomorrow.
 
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I just put in my preorder at Gamestop. The guy there was dumb, saying there was a regular version of the game for $49.99 or a "special edition" for $59.99. I think dude was looking at the Wii version as the $50 one. But I got my "Kane 88 Booster pack" card! It's not one of those cards where you tear off something to see the code. It's just printed right on the card. I wonder if I can download it now.
 

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BAH GAWD KANE HAS JUST CHOKESLAMMED SIDNEY CROSBY THROUGH THE ICE AND STRAIGHT TO HELL~!
 

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I didn't preorder it, but it's not like it's exactly a hockey hotbed down here. I had to go to three different stores to find NHL 09 on the release day last year. Will be interesting to see how they changed things and whether or not this will just become an exercise in me spending money on something I don't really like. I really didn't get into NHL 09. I don't think I finished my second season in Dynasty mode, and usually I'm pushing 9 or 10 seasons when the new game comes out. The demo for 10 did well to set me up, I think I'm going to get suckered into this one.
 

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I preordered, so I get to go to the midnight madness event on Tuesday/Wednesday at Midnight.
 

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I have mine pre-ordered and I'm hoping to play it a bit before I head to work tomorrow, but I have my doubts if I'll get a chance to check it out before I get home from work.
 
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I played nothing but OTP tonight- mostly private matches since the EA servers were down/overloaded- but if anyone wants to play versus or team play tomorrow, I'll be on a lot. Maybe we can get several TSMers together for team play, even.
 

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I'm probably like one of the few that went PS3, so I probably doubt there's anyone who would like to play me.
 

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If I go, I'm going PS3, so you could be in luck. My XBL subscription ends in November and with a PS3 there's no sense in extending XBL since the only console games I really play online are EA games.
 

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So does this year's version have fully customizable controls i.e. I want to use the right joystick for defense to control my player's stick but I want to shoot with the A or B button.
 

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Ok, I've played enough of the game (sans GM) that I think I can safely say without a doubt this is a hockey game in all senses of the word.

Exhibition - I played a quick game just to see what its like. It was fun and enjoyable. I loved the board play, kicking the puck away happens just as you would expect in real life. Took me a while to realize that you need to switch off the guy covered on the boards so you can make the pass easily enough. Game went by quickly, though you might as well not bother with the automatic line changes. You can keep a better track of your lines than the CPU does, and frankly you'll rotate lines with more ease (you'll need to increase fatigue).

It probably was the first time I've played a hockey game in a long time that felt like a hockey game. The bounces of the puck off the goalie realistically, making rebounds all the more fun to gobble up. Though I'm still not used to using the right stick to shoot.

For The Cup - I know that's not the real name, but its basically the mode that you play for the cup in a length of series you'd like. I found this mode a lot more entertaining than I thought I would. Especially when it talked about how each team played the previous game. I took the Edmonton Oilers (shocker~!) vs. Centenniel Montreal Canadiens (shocker~!) and tried playing a full set. Sadly, it froze on me after game three and corrupted my save, but hey! I still got three games in.

In the first game, I managed to shut out the CMC in a 1-0 game. The only goal was scored by Horcoff (shocker~!) on Roy. It was a fun back and forth tilt. In the second game, they referred to how 'bulin kept stoning the game. Of course, what happens when the CMC goes on the offensive? M-V-P chant. So f'n cool! Sadly in my second game I ran into penalty trouble and lost 4-2. In game three that was the story, on how if I limit the penalty opportunites, I should be able to win the game. However, Griffion ruined that scoring two goals and helping on the third as I lost 3-1. In game four, when the game froze, the talk was how could the offense get going and how could I stop Griffion (6 points in 3 games). After the game it froze while saving and corrupted it.

Be A Pro - Was a little pissed, but figured that it was because it was so hot out that it overheated. So I went on to play Be A Pro and took my hand as a centre, but I soon realized that I can't win a draw for the life of me (or rather I couldn't figure out how), so I quickly switched right wing. I selected playmaker and was setting it up but of course it froze while it saved and corrupted.

So I decided to make a Goalie, against my better judgement. So I played through the Prospects game and managed to get a shut out. I was really happy about that. Then I was upset when I got drafted by dun, dun, dun, the New York Islanders. You wanna know how fast I went to resetting it? You know the only problem? You either end up with the Lightning, Islanders or Penguins (WTF?) with the #1, 2, or 3 overall. You'll go top 3 unless you totally botch the prospects game. Why do I know who you'll likely end up playing for? Corrupt save after the draft and I spent like 6 years and a day trying to get my shut out back. I haven't yet.

Now with your BAP, you can gain equipment through the game by completing certain requirements. Some requirements just require you to do something simple, like the Dragon helmets require you to just win a game in BAP. Though some requirements require you doing something else, like the Dragon Sets's pads require you to draft in the 2010/2011 in Be a GM (dynasty mode). All aquired equipment grants you a slot to three that you can add a bonus attribute for. Though the sad part is the lack of depth in the amount you can get for gear. Also, all gear can be bought as well as acquired through regular means.

Now you might be wondering why I wanted my shut out and win back in the prospect game is because there are a ton of equipment and skills requirements that are related to that game. Particularly, most of the Dragon set can be aquired from this one game. As I mentioned before, the Dragon Helmets can be acquired just by winning a game in Be A Pro as I stated previously. The Dragon Blocker and Glove require you to not allow goals within the first and third periods, at this time I can't recall which awards you which. The shut out and getting all As (which a shut out gains you) grants you the Samurai Helmet (2 Slots) and Spider Pads (3 Slots), again at this time I don't recall which is which.

Overall its a lot of fun, and I can't wait to get playing again. I'll probably try Be A GM mode next and see what team I can blow up. ^_^
 
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