North Korea Redux?

[cobainwasmurdered]

I for one would never accuse Israel of using implied threats and am disgusted 909 did.

 

[909]

You troll so often now that I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not.

 

[bigolsmitty]

I for one would never accuse Israel of using implied threats and am disgusted 909 did.

Okay. When did Israel threaten to nuke somebody in order to get what they wanted? This is what we're talking about with North Korea, right?

Israel couldn't even keep Egypt and its allies from invading it with its nukes.

Please don't take any of this as an endorsement of Israeli policy. You all have seen my arguments with Czech over Israel / Palestine. My argument is simply that nukes aren't a magic bullet that allow countries to coerce other countries with impunity.

Further, North Korea has the bomb *right now.* It may not be able to miniaturize it and put it on a missile, but it could drop it from a plane. The thing the US government is talking about is putting a warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US. If your argument is that nukes will make North Korea a diplomatic powerhouse that can force Japan and South Korea to do what it wants, you have to explain why this hasn't happened for the past decade, since NK exploded a nuke in 2006.

 

[bigolsmitty]

I believe the US could level NK's ability to inflict punishment on South Korea or Japan if things got to that point.

I missed this before.

Based on what? Everything I've seen read indicates that NK artillery could flatten large portions of Seoul if they want and there's not much anyone could do about it.

I'll respond to the rest later, but:

http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/

Shorter version: the rate of fire is very slow, much of the artillery isn't within reasonable distance of actually reaching Seoul, they don't have enough artillery shells, and the equipment is old and likely unreliable. It also takes too long for artillery to destroy a city.

Appreciate the substantive response, and this is an interesting read.

64000 dead in a single day is still concerning to me, and not worth waving off.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/608770/seoul-rejects-trump-demand-won-t-pay-for-missile-system/story

based negotiator.

 

[Precious Roy]

It's almost like this whole fake news thing was a faux

 

[KOAB]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/15/dennis-rodman-in-north-korea/102876338/

 

[bigolsmitty]

In Warsaw, Trump said the United States was considering “some pretty severe things” in response to what he called “very, very bad behavior” from the North, although he did not mention any specific plans. “Something will have to be done about it,” he said.

Okay, that's helpful.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trump-warns-of-severe-consequences-for-north-korea-as-russia-china-balk-at-tough-us-talk/2017/07/06/f176634c-61ca-11e7-80a2-8c226031ac3f_story.html

 

[BruiserBrody]

Lots of medals...

 

[BruiserBrody]

Fox turned to noted North Korean military expert Scott Adams last night. He moonlights as the cartoonist for Dilbert.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

are people too scared to update this thread?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/28/north-korea-fires-missile-japan

 

[Mickey Massuco]

I hope that 'duck under the desk' nuclear defence still works because they probably still practice it in North Korea.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41139445

The secretive communist state said its sixth nuclear test was a "perfect success", hours after seismologists had detected an earth tremor.
Pyongyang said it had tested a hydrogen bomb - a device many times more powerful than an atomic bomb.

"Let's see the internet put stupid captions on my pictures now!"

 

[BruiserBrody]

You know who doesn’t break out into hives and start sobbing uncontrollably into their pumpkin spice vanilla chai no-foam half-caf lattes when it comes to showing mass-murdering tyrannical North Korean terrorist dictators what a giant swinging pair of cast iron human testicles looks like?

South Korea. And General Douglas Motherfuckin’ MacArthur.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=870377419767

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Read as: Brody's false bravado in lieu of crapping his pants

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-41375302

US bombers have flown close to North Korea's east coast to demonstrate the military options available to defeat any threat, the Pentagon has said.

It said the flight was the farthest north of the demilitarised zone between the Koreas that any US fighter jet or bomber had flown in the 21st Century.

Tensions have risen recently over Pyongyang's nuclear programme.

At the UN, North Korea's foreign minister said US President Donald Trump was on a "suicide mission".

Ri Yong-ho's comments to the General Assembly mimicked Mr Trump's remarks at the UN on Tuesday, when he called North Korean leader Kim Jong-un a "rocket man on a suicide mission".

Mr Ri added that "insults" by Mr Trump - who was, he said, "mentally deranged and full of megalomania" - were an "irreversible mistake making it inevitable" that North Korean rockets would hit the US mainland.

Mr Trump, the foreign minister said, would "pay dearly" for his speech, in which he also said he would "totally destroy" North Korea if the US was forced to defend itself or its allies.

And of course Un had everyone googling what the meaning of "dotard" was after busting that out on Trump which I have to say is a lot more fun than "Rocket Man". I'd give Un the win in the insult competition. Lets call this whole theoretical war off and just have a Roast?

 

[tekcop]

I stand with the citizens of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea against the imperialist powers of the United States of America.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I have that post recorded and screengrabbed for when the war comes. I will absolutely take part in the show trial of Tekcop.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/world/asia/trump-north-korea.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1447982723176484871

North Korea's Army is looking to win next year's edition of "America's Got Talent".

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US better hope we never have to battle Koreans with cinderblocks and planks of wood or we are fucked.

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In America, we give our soldiers PTSD. In Korea, they give their army CTE.

 

[tekcop]

Maybe in a few years this will lead to a bunch of North Korean action movies.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

South Korean missile crashes into base during show of force

The U.S. and South Korea fired five missiles on Wednesday in a show of force against North Korea, but one of them failed shortly after launch and crashed into a military base, officials say. Each side fired a pair of U.S.-made ATACMS short-range ballistic missiles into the Sea of Japan, where...

bnonews.com

Probably not what they wanted from a show of military strength.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579793290370875397

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

That's where Ron DeSantis got those boots.

 

[BruiserBrody]

North Korea claims almost 800,000 people have signed up for its military to fight US | CNN

North Korea has claimed that about 800,000 of its citizens have volunteered to join or reenlist in the nation's military to fight against the United States.

www.cnn.com