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I've learned to never doubt Pixar.
I have no idea what "Up" is actually about and I don't care. I will see it opening weekend, no doubt.
 

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I'm excited to see Up in 3-D. Pixar movies already look amazing, I'm really excited to see what they can do with 3-D theaters.
 

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Toy Story, Wall-E, and Finding Nemo were incredible.

Ratatouille, The Incredibles, Monsters Inc., A Bug's Life and Toy Story 2 were great but not as good as the above three.

Cars wasn't good enough to justify its length. It's probably the only Pixar movie that I have no desire to watch again.

I will definitely be seeing Up! in theaters, though I'm less than excited about it being in 3D.
 

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Gary Floyd said:
Smues said:
It’s nothing like the cartoonish pabulum foisted onto the public in ravishing junk like The Incredibles and Ratatouille or just plain junk like Cars, Finding Nemo, Ice Age and the essentially forgettable Wall-E.

Someone at Pixar must have run over his dog or something. Coraline is awesome, but I wouldn't call it better than Nemo, Ratatouille, or The Incredibles.
Try more of his reviews. Especially the ones of "The Dark Knight", "The Wrestler, and "Hellboy II." Especially his review of "The Wrestler", where he trashes it and unironically calls "Ready to Rumble" a superior movie. He's pretty much the most hated critic on Earth at the moment. Even Ben Lyons gets more love.

http://www.nypress.com/article-19175-the-wrestler.html

People too smart to appreciate the fun and insight of the wrestling comedy Ready to Rumble lap up the irony that Ram Jam is ready to die.

He hates on all these movies, then he praises Next Day Air.
 

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Next Day Air got shockingly good reviews from a lot of prominent critics, including Roger Ebert and the NY Times. Made me feel guilty for just making racist jokes and not paying attention. Though Eddie Winslow was awesome
 

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Gary Floyd said:
Try more of his reviews. Especially the ones of "The Dark Knight", "The Wrestler, and "Hellboy II." Especially his review of "The Wrestler", where he trashes it and unironically calls "Ready to Rumble" a superior movie. He's pretty much the most hated critic on Earth at the moment.
And reading through some of his reviews there, jesus christ he deserves every single ounce of hatred he gets. Okay, he's an elitist NYC critic who loves foreign cinema and hates Hollywood blockbusters, I understand that part. He overwhelmingly hates far more movies than he likes, fine, I can be a picky bastard too. But what gets really puzzling is his utterly scattershot opinions on more mainstream stuff.

He gave negative reviews to: Knocked Up, Sunshine, Stardust, 3:10 to Yuma, Eastern Promises, Michael Clayton, Zodiac, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, American Gangster, I'm Not There, I Am Legend, Sweeney Todd, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, There Will Be Blood, Cloverfield, In Bruges, Redbelt, Son of Rambow, Iron Man, The Fall, The Incredible Hulk, Encounters at the End of the World, Get Smart, The Dark Knight, Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Frozen River, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, Changeling, Zack & Miri Make a Porno, Slumdog Millionaire, Milk, Gran Torino, Doubt, Che, The Wrestler, Watchmen, Star Trek, and although there's no official review he seems to spend a lot of time bitching about Wall-E.

He gave positive reviews for: Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry, The Nanny Diaries, War, Never Back Down, The Forbidden Kingdom, Chaos Theory, What Happens In Vegas, The Foot Fist Way, War Inc., The Wedding Director, The Wackness, Swing Vote, Death Race, W., Quantum of Solace, Transporter 3, Bedtime Stories, and Confessions of a Shopaholic.

Okay. Now. Would anyone here think that list #2 is superior to list #1? No? Didn't think so. My next question would be, how in the bloody fucking unholy hemorrhaging asshole of hell did this tastleless pair of pastel clownshoes ever actually become a paid critic associated with something as good as NPR's fine show Fresh Air?

EDIT: upon actually reading some of his reviews, he's even worse. For one thing, he spends way, way too much time in his articles talking about other movies besides the one he's supposed to be reviewing. He spends practically the whole page in his Coraline review bitching about Wall-E, seriously, he spends at least a couple sentences complaining about Pixar in every single paragraph. He especially seems to have a weird haterection for There Will Be Blood, he brings up that one a lot in order to whine about it for no apparent reason.

And to top it all off, he's a fucking horrible fact-checker with plenty of blatant inaccuracies. Like, in The Incredible Hulk: he claims that Banner is being taught by "a Muy Thai martial arts expert". First of all, it's spelled "Muay Thai". Secondly, that ain't no Muay Thai master. I don't have a particular problem with anyone who didn't recognize Brazilian Jiu Jitsu legend Rickson Gracie in that part, only MMA fans would really know who the guy is. But how the hell do you choose to specify exactly what martial art he's a master of, and then get it completely wrong? (Hint: Muay Thai comes from Thailand, not South America.) Furthermore, he completely misreads some scenes in a visually illiterate manner, claiming that Tim Blake Nelson's character dies when he clearly does not (and apparently doing a simple Wiki search for background material was too much work for him, or else he'd be hip to this being an obvious origin story for the character of The Leader). And all that is on top of a review where he keeps talking about how Ang Lee's Hulk movie was so much better than this one and Eric Bana is so much better than Edward Norton and fucking Hit Man was allegedly a great action flick and MOTHERFUCKER, MY BRAIN HURTS SO MUCH I THINK I JUST TURNED SCIENTOLOGIST.
 

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I love Hilary Duff and give the War, Inc. people a lot of credit for what they were trying to do, but holy crap was the movie horrible.

He seems like to Statham though, I dig that.
 

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The thing that I don't get about Armond White is he derides Roger Ebert for being too "populist" but then he worships the ground that Steven Spielberg walks on. There's no rhyme or reason with most of his reviews.
 

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To continue the Pixar discussion - I think my favorites would have to be The Incredibles, Finding Nemo and both Toy Storys.

I still have not seen Wall-E. :(
 
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I'm excited to see "Up" just because its good to see Spencer Tracy making movies again, despite being dead for over 40 years.
 

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I'm interested for this. Having watched Toy Story about 59 times as a child means I love all Pixar movies. I hate Nemo though, because I never watched it until some fucking retards came and ruined it completely because they loved it and they fucking pissed me off more than anything else and I was put off it. I may be able to watch it eventually, but like some people with Chris Benoit matches, I have a hard time with it. I loved all the other Pixar moves (including Cars)
 

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Up is at 100% on RT through 40 reviews. I'd say Pixar has another winner on its hands.

Edit: So what are the odds the first negative review of Up on RT comes from Armond White?
 

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Smues said:
Up is at 100% on RT through 40 reviews. I'd say Pixar has another winner on its hands.

Edit: So what are the odds the first negative review of Up on RT comes from Armond White?
You know he's licking his chops at the opportunity. Maybe he deserves his own thread (or better yet, we have a comment on film criticism/bitch about critics thread)
 

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Now that RT exists, I don't think any movie is getting 100 percent. Drag Me to Hell also almost had 100, but some critic didn't like it

It's funny, Man on Wire came out last year and actually became the best reviewed movie in RT history. I didn't care for it.
 

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Now that RT exists, I don't think any movie is getting 100 percent. Drag Me to Hell also almost had 100, but some critic didn't like it

It's funny, Man on Wire came out last year and actually became the best reviewed movie in RT history. I didn't care for it.

How does that make any sense? Without RT, there would be no 100 percent to achieve.

And Toy Story 2 has a higher average rating than Man on Wire with a comparable number of reviews.
 

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How does that make any sense? Without RT, there would be no 100 percent to achieve.

And Toy Story 2 has a higher average rating than Man on Wire with a comparable number of reviews.

Because I think there are now going to be critics who delight in being the one dick.

Man on Wire got a 100% with 141, Toy Story 2 had 125. That's what the producers were claiming. I didn't care for the movie, there were too many re-enactments.
 

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Gary Floyd said:
Here it is. Yep, he hates it.
Dude. Get a load of that opening paragraph:
Pixar rules pop media like nothing since mid-20th century General Motors held sway as the preeminent American corporation (and the bane of grassroots individualism). Every Pixar film—including the new Up, gushed over by Cannes Film Festival shills—is greeted with nearly patriotic fervor. This absurdity clarifies contemporary news media’s unprincipled collusion with Hollywood capitalism.
I mean, damn. First you've got the tortured grammar of the first sentence. More important is that here we apparently have a film critic's answer to a Truther. He literally claims that all the journalists at Cannes are bought-and-paid shills, and then goes on to accuse the entire "news media" of deliberate conspiracy to hypnotize the masses into liking Pixar's movies. Whoa. Can anyone explain how this guy actually makes a living by writing professional film reviews? How the fuck did he get his job, and why the fuck have they let him keep it?
 

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Jingus said:
Gary Floyd said:
Here it is. Yep, he hates it.
Dude. Get a load of that opening paragraph:
Pixar rules pop media like nothing since mid-20th century General Motors held sway as the preeminent American corporation (and the bane of grassroots individualism). Every Pixar film—including the new Up, gushed over by Cannes Film Festival shills—is greeted with nearly patriotic fervor. This absurdity clarifies contemporary news media’s unprincipled collusion with Hollywood capitalism.
I mean, damn. First you've got the tortured grammar of the first sentence. More important is that here we apparently have a film critic's answer to a Truther. He literally claims that all the journalists at Cannes are bought-and-paid shills, and then goes on to accuse the entire "news media" of deliberate conspiracy to hypnotize the masses into liking Pixar's movies. Whoa. Can anyone explain how this guy actually makes a living by writing professional film reviews? How the fuck did he get his job, and why the fuck have they let him keep it?
One thing that amuses me about his reviews is how he obviously sees himself as the only sane voice in film criticism. He's even said "don't listen to those who disagree with me-they are all clueless."
 
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Jingus said:
Gary Floyd said:
Here it is. Yep, he hates it.
Dude. Get a load of that opening paragraph:
Pixar rules pop media like nothing since mid-20th century General Motors held sway as the preeminent American corporation (and the bane of grassroots individualism). Every Pixar film—including the new Up, gushed over by Cannes Film Festival shills—is greeted with nearly patriotic fervor. This absurdity clarifies contemporary news media’s unprincipled collusion with Hollywood capitalism.
I mean, damn. First you've got the tortured grammar of the first sentence. More important is that here we apparently have a film critic's answer to a Truther. He literally claims that all the journalists at Cannes are bought-and-paid shills, and then goes on to accuse the entire "news media" of deliberate conspiracy to hypnotize the masses into liking Pixar's movies. Whoa. Can anyone explain how this guy actually makes a living by writing professional film reviews? How the fuck did he get his job, and why the fuck have they let him keep it?

Novelty?
 

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The Wall Street Journal staff is probably not the pluckiest bunch of reporters right now
 

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wnyxmcneal said:
Yea, let's not compare Nemo to Chris Benoit. Thanks.

I heard that Dory had the brain of an 85-year old alzheimer's patient.


Anyway, that critic guy is clearly of the "it's popular, it must be horrible" mindset that you find in any highbrow critic, whether it be movie critics or music critics who think any band that isn't 'underground' is awful or whatever. The reason they make a living is because their viewpoint is always different from the norm. You give a great review to a box-office smash, nobody's going to remember your name amongst the dozens identical. You call it a piece of crap, you're going to get people's attention, even if you're wrong. Especially if you're wrong. And obviously whoever's employing him sees that and thinks whatever controversy this guy stirs up is good.
 
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