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I don’t get why Tony Khan can’t comment. Can one of our legal experts elaborate?
He wouldn't say anything other than "I feel for the victim" PR ready type statement anyway.
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Did anyone listen to see if Nash responded this week to the blowback from his meathead version of nuance on the situation? He and Sean usually respond to negative comments on air.

Edit: Nash commented he read 'Your comments last week won't age well" and responded "They might" "I ain't looking to be anyone's pal"

It goes a whole 30 seconds before Sean cuts him off to plug another shitty product.
 

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Brody just mad he didn't get Nash to read the positive feedback he left.
 

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SD Jones seems to be the tag partner he is speaking of as they teamed early in Roma’s career, then Jones died much later in his sleep following a stroke and massive brain bleed.
 

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I mean I don't think he's wrong, I guess, but Roma isn't the best witness. He doesn't offer a lot in that clip, either. So much room for error.
 

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I’m solidly in the believe victims camp. But the first step is that there has to be a verifiable victim and not a second hand allegation.
 

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SD went off the road in early 88 as house showed were culled IIRC, He stayed on doing TV jobs into 1990.

Given he had been around since the late 70s IIRC I'm not sure I'd buy the story of SD being the one propositioned. Now if Roma is mixing things up and SD was commenting on the other younger guys being harassed and saying "It's not worth it" I can see that as more likely.
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I think Meltz has always said Patterson was clean. Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin however....

Terry Garvin bringing the ring boy/attendant back to his house and trying to fuck him was documented and quite the harrowing tale.

If anything, I've always thought Patterson liked to use his known homosexuality to rib the guys less so than try to bed guys. Then again you have that Piper shoot where he went all weird about being a young man and implied Patterson tried something, earning Roddy another slap from the WWE brass.
 

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This is purely me reading between the lines but the way Roma says “of the age” and stresses that with pointed facial features and body language with a pause before moving on, I took it as him saying there was an underage (at the time) victim. That would fit a “worse than Janel Grant” scenario. We have heard of these as rumors and more than rumors for years and we just had Mel Phillips freshly accused again. I would bet that Roma is referencing someone under 18 and executives covering it up in the least to participating in the worst case scenario.
 

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SD went off the road in early 88 as house showed were culled IIRC, He stayed on doing TV jobs into 1990.

Given he had been around since the late 70s IIRC I'm not sure I'd buy the story of SD being the one propositioned. Now if Roma is mixing things up and SD was commenting on the other younger guys being harassed and saying "It's not worth it" I can see that as more likely.
The timeline doesn’t match up for Jones but is the only former partner that died from a brain bleed that I am aware of. The possibilities are Roma is an unreliable narrator in that he is lying or in that he is mixing up some details/the timeline from 35 years ago; or that Roma is talking about multiple situations and his phrasing made it sound like it was all the same person. The former teammate going to the brass and that ruining Roma’s push may not be the same person that left the business immediately. The way he worded it is a bit non-linear.
 

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I mean I don't think he's wrong necessarily but Paul Roma is a really unreliable source if people want proof. He's burned every bridge to where he got blackballed and talked so much shit that even if he's telling the truth he's poisoned the well.
 

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Yeah I’m thinking maybe there’s a reason he got blackballed. And that the reason might not be so good for whoever blackballed him. Al Perez once told a story about Pat that matches up with this too. Another blackballed guy.
 

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Roma is notoriously shitty and hasn't done anything to seem otherwise over the years, though. He's like Ryback. Again I'm not saying he's wrong but I need more.

I thought Massaro was right and believed her, though. No reason for her to lie like that. Literally nothing in it for her.

The Terry Garvin culture is fucked and pretty vast. That era is a disaster. More people need to speak out before they all die.
 
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