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he did a whole promo and everything with Perfect & Bobby.

 
Wow, I have no memory of Flair, Perfect and the Brain being there either. Probably because in the clip that gets always replayed with Hogan being picked, it’s only the potential challengers in the shot.
 
i like to believe the reason SID never cut a “regular” promo again after this point is because of the crushing disappointment of making the effort of preparing statements, so he vowed to never think again.
 
That makes sense. It's like a poet (we're also a bunch of psychos like Sid) getting a rejection for a manuscript. It can be crippling. One day you're putting your whole self on the page, the next you got a sueeqee in one hand and scissors in the other, and one leg is pointing in different directions because you thought you were a bird.
 
Judging by how many upper seats were empty, I don’t think business was booming on the secondary market for Tatanka.
 
Damn, the company sacrificed the box office to plant the seeds for his heel turn with the Million Dollar Man years later!
 
The interview with Vince McMahon is the thing I remember most from that show.
 
I remember the night that show aired. We were at my aunt’s house because I think I needed help with homework or something .I watched some of the show in the back room of her house wondering why Hogan v Warrior was on tv. Thirty four years ago…
 
I remember seeing a clip of the Hogan sitdown interview on All-American. It must have been the day of Mania. I wasn't even a wrestling fan yet but my brother was. And I started tearing up about the Hulkster's impending retirement. God I was such a little bitch.

On New Year's we rented Mania 8. By this time I was starting to become a regular WWF viewer and as I watched the end with Hogan and Warrior celebrating, I...started crying again. And tried to calm down by telling myself "he's coming back. He's coming back soon." Just an absolute vagina. I think I shit myself that night too.
 
BUTT said:
I remember seeing a clip of the Hogan sitdown interview on All-American. It must have been the day of Mania. I wasn't even a wrestling fan yet but my brother was. And I started tearing up about the Hulkster's impending retirement. God I was such a little bitch.

On New Year's we rented Mania 8. By this time I was starting to become a regular WWF viewer and as I watched the end with Hogan and Warrior celebrating, I...started crying again. And tried to calm down by telling myself "he's coming back. He's coming back soon." Just an absolute vagina. I think I shit myself that night too.
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Don’t hate yourself for showing emotion brother. All the little Hulkamaniacs were going through it at that time.
 
I was so invested in Savage/Flair that i hated Flair for years. Favorite match of all time. I remember being glued to the buildup and then seeing the results with Flair a bloody mess, and being so happy. This angle is also why my brother instituted a "no Mr. Perfect rule" for any video games or otherwise tried-at-home wrestling endeavors
 
Mickey Massuco said:
Don’t hate yourself for showing emotion brother. All the little Hulkamaniacs were going through it at that time.
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Oddly. despite being the number 1 Hulkamaniac, I have no real memory of my reaction to Hogan leaving. I was briefly upset with him when it was revealed on the News shows like Inside Edition that he was part of the roids scandal, so perhaps I wasn't as shook as I was a year earlier when a mere fireball to Hogan's face made me cry.

Now I watch the end of the Sid match and still mark out every time Warrior's music hits, and I'm far far past caring for the Warrior.
 
Valeyard said:
I was so invested in Savage/Flair that i hated Flair for years. Favorite match of all time. I remember being glued to the buildup and then seeing the results with Flair a bloody mess, and being so happy. This angle is also why my brother instituted a "no Mr. Perfect rule" for any video games or otherwise tried-at-home wrestling endeavors
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Hell yeah. I probably watched Flair-Savage more than any other match growing up. I could recite the commentary between Gorilla and the Brain.

When they had that in the middle of the card, I was convinced Savage was going to get screwed because title matches in the middle of the card usually meant a heel winning and something else closing the show to send the fans home happy. When Savage kicked out after getting hit with the foreign object and then won with the small package out of nowhere, I went nuts.

Awesome match. Awesome angle.
 
There's no flaw in that match. Everything is perfect and the chemistry both in ring and as characters is magnificent. The promos after are a couple of the best for either guy. 1991-92 was a really special time. Flair brought an edge with him and it made the shows more interesting than they'd been.
 
That's true. Especially still in the era of 4 ppvs a year, 3 and 6 seemed so much more recent, already being mythologized. It looked like a step down. Would've made Ultimate Warrior's return even better.

If Flair-Savage was closer to the final match, 1-2 cooldown matches before Hogan-Sid, if the Papa Shango runin didn't get messed up, and they had ring carts...do we think of it like 3 or 17 or Great American Bash 89?
 
While it’s a funny interview, Luger being introduced via satellite really slowed the momentum of the show down.

LOD didn’t need a 10 minute promo to introduce Ellering, just go out and clobber the Nasties or Beverlys in 4 minutes.

Disasters/Money goes too long for a non finish, tighten that up and it improves the show too.
 
Luger's thing could've worked better earlier (in place of LOD) or later (to kill some time before Hogan/Sid).

If you swap the eight man and the tag title the flow is a lot better. Flows with the LOD promo earlier. You might be able to get away with pushing Bret/Piper back too although i think it's perfect as is.

The main advantage of Savage/Flair in the middle is that you get the promos after. At the same time it kinda seems like a waste to have all those personalities involved with Hogan/Sid not doing a promo after. Also, if you swap the matches, you open the door for Hogan and Warrior, his two biggest rivals, celebrating with Savage and Hogan's last moment as a full time guy making Savage finally be treated like an equal without hahaha I can't
 
I would have Hitman-Piper as the last match before intermission, Hogan-Sid as the semi-main, Luger interview between the main events, and Flair-Savage close the show.
 
my thought was always what if Sid and Hogan goes middle show and is just the papa shango interference and hogan leaves with a DQ finish and he chases them out of the building.

and the show ends with Savage going over Flair and taking the strap but Flair & Perfect and maybe another heel that you get to align with them are putting the boots to Savage and the fans know Hogan just chased Sid out BUT WAIT ITS THE WARRIOR and Warrior charges out and clears the ring and it’s Savage, Liz and Warrior in the ring and they shake hands and it puts a button on the WM7 moment.
 
That's a great way to elevate Shawn. I can hear Heenan cackling because it was a ruse and Shawn Michaels did NOT leave the building
 
Valeyard said:
Luger's thing could've worked better earlier (in place of LOD) or later (to kill some time before Hogan/Sid).

If you swap the eight man and the tag title the flow is a lot better. Flows with the LOD promo earlier. You might be able to get away with pushing Bret/Piper back too although i think it's perfect as is.

The main advantage of Savage/Flair in the middle is that you get the promos after. At the same time it kinda seems like a waste to have all those personalities involved with Hogan/Sid not doing a promo after. Also, if you swap the matches, you open the door for Hogan and Warrior, his two biggest rivals, celebrating with Savage and Hogan's last moment as a full time guy making Savage finally be treated like an equal without hahaha I can't
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or just have LOD come down on their Harleys and block Money Inc from running away - then do a backstage promo after with Ellering

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Owen vs Skinner might be the most pointless match in Mania history.
At least with previous lower card guys like Wells and SD Jones, the squashes put over new guys..... this kinda just existed

I'd assume in the early Mania drafts that Owen/Anvil wrestle the Beverlys here but Jim had to get canned
 
You can do the promo and insert them into the tag title match. It flows really well and makes sense. Wakes up the crowd later in the show and pumps them up early
 
Not sure the ring carts really work here. It eliminates Savage running down to get to Flair and Piper walking out with that look of determination which are two iconic moments for starters. Plus Tatanka's entrance was built around sprinting to the ring, Taker would have looked dumb in a cart (as opposed to his later hearse and chariot entrances which were cool), the guys in the 8-man were all already in the ring, and you know Hogan isn't using one. And I feel like the carts were mainly designed for the benefit of Andre so he didn't have to walk that long stadium distance.
 
They didn't need the carts again until 18-19. Should be commonplace nowadays
 
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