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WWE Judgment Day - May 17 2009

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Looks like a solid card from top to bottom:

WWE Championship
The Viper Randy Orton (C) vs. Batista

Orton retains. No way he drops the title this fast.

World Heavyweight Championship
Edge (C) vs. Jeff Hardy

Edge retains with Hardy just a fill in challenger right now. After Edge retains, Punk cashes in the MITB and wins the title. If WWE really wants to go in a new direction and build stars, while getting their imput, what better way then to do it, with a hometown boy winning the world title.

ECW Championship
Christian (C) vs. Jack Swagger

Swagger wins the ECW title. It's close to One Night Stand, or whatever WWE calls it these days, and I see Dreamer doing it, and winning the title in due time.

John Cena vs. Big Show

Show wins. Isn't Cena suppose to be off filiming? If so, let Show completely destroy Cena.

Intercontinental Championship
Rey Mysterio (C) vs. Chris Jericho

Jericho wins the IC title. If it wasn't for the knee injury, I would see him retaining, but let's all hail the NINE time IC champion.

CM Punk vs. Umaga

Umaga def. Punk to flatten the crowd and make it less obvious that Punk will cash in the MITB.

John Morrison vs. Shelton Benjamin

Surprised this was added to the card over the US title. Morrison def. Benjamin and WWE proves they are seriously with Morrison's push.
 
The absolute only reason I'm ordering this show is for ECW and SD. I've enjoyed both of those shows so much that I feel like I have to order this show just for those matches.

If those two RAW matches weren't on this show, I'd still be ordering this one.

Heck, I wish I could take the RAW matches off and replace them with another match from ECW and another one from SD.
 
does Finlay ever wrestle on PPVs? He's always in some kind of decent feud on ECW, but he rarely gets to blow them off on ppv.
 
6foot9 said:
does Finlay ever wrestle on PPVs? He's always in some kind of decent feud on ECW, but he rarely gets to blow them off on ppv.

Its a shame...wudnt mind some sort of match with him against Kidd or Smith
 
Besides WM and the Rumble, Finlay had a match with Swagger at No Way Out this year.
 
Mattdotcom said:
Besides WM and the Rumble, Finlay had a match with Swagger at No Way Out this year.

Do they think Finlay's not good enough for PPV matches just because that one sucked?
 
I'm with Downhome on this one. I really have no interest in Orton-Batista or Cena-Show, but Jericho-Rey, Punk-Umaga, Benjamin-Morrison, Edge-Jeff(-Punk?), and Christian-Swagger have me strongly considering putting down some money tonight.
 
Same here. I want to see the show tonight, but PPVs are expensive, and the last show I bought was Unforgiven 08 and that made me not want to buy anymore PPVs
 
Just do what I do guys, don't watch the PPV and simply download it after, it'll only run 1.1 gig or so, which you can download while you're at work/school/while you wait tomorrow.
 
This is crazy, I've actually ordered every PPV so far this year, so I figure, why the hell not, this show looks pretty good.
 
just went through the PPV results from 08 and 09, and this is Finlays record.

wrestlemania '09- mitb (lost)
no way out '09- vs swagger for the ecw title (lost)
royal rumble '09- rumble (lost)
Armageddon '08- vs Mark Henry (win)
unforgiven '08- championship scramble (lost)
gab '08- 4 team match for the titles (lost) (w/ Hornswoggle)
night of champions '08- vs. miz and morrison for the tag titles (w/ Hornswoggle) (lost)
wrestlemania 08- vs JBL in a belfast brawl (lost)
no way out 08- smackdown/ecw elimination chamber (lost)

Just 1 win in 9 matches. Though he was in multimen/team matches in 5 of those matches. Twice he was in a tag team with Hornswoggle.
 
It's like Finlay knows wrestling is fake, his age means his spot on the card is mostly permanent, and that losses won't hurt him. There's no conspiracy here, gang. Finlay sits in on booking meetings.
 
He only has one win in nine matches because he obviously isn't that good at professional wrestling.

Why would WWE keep putting a guy on PPV if he always loses?
 
Seeing that makes me wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???
 
He was the survivor in the Survivor Series 90 match. And his team won the Ultimate Finale match
 
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs. honest mistake, won't happen again. ::)
 
King Kamala said:
Seeing that makes me wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???
Same reason Koko B. Ware is in the HOF.
 
6foot9 said:
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs. honest mistake, won't happen again. ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.
 
because I'm sad:

Tito-

1-0 (wins at Wrestlemania)
2-0 (beats Don Muraco, Wrestling Classic)
2-0-1 (DCO Paul Orndorff, Wrestling Classic)
2-1-1 (w/ JYD loses to Funks, WM 2)
2-2-1 (w/ Bulldogs loses to Harts and Danny Davis, WM 3)
3-2-1 (w/Rick Martel, Bulldogs, Rougeaus, Young Stallions, Killer Bees defeats Islanders, Demolition, Bolsheviks, and Dream Team, SurS87)
3-3-1 (w/ Martel loses to Demoliton WM 4)
3-4-1 (w/Roberts, Scott Casey, Ken Patera, and Duggan lose to Andre, Rude, Bravo, Perfect, Race, SurS88)
3-5-1 (does not win RR 89)
3-6-1 (w/ Martel loses to Brainbusters WMV)
3-7-1 (w/Rockers loses to Martel and Rougeaus SumS89)
4-7-1 (w/Dusty, Beefcake and Rooster defeats Bossman, Martel, Bad News and Honky)
4-8-1 (does not win RR 90)
4-9-1 (loses to Barbarian WM VI)
4-10-1 (loses to Warlord SumS 90)
5-10-1 (w/ Volkoff and Bushwhackers defeats Slaughter, Orient Express and Zukov, SurS90)
6-10-1 (w/ Hogan and Warrior defeats Dibiase, Martel, Warlord, Power and Glory, SurS90)
6-11-1 (does not win RR 91)
6-12-1 (loses to Mountie, WM VII)
7-12-1 (w/ Slaughter, Duggan and Von Erich defeats Berzerker, Mustafa, Hercules, Skinner SurS 91)
7-13-1 (w/ Virgil loses to Repo Man and Dibiase TIT)
7-14-1 (does not win RR 92)
7-15-1 (loses to HBK, WMVIII)
7-16-1 (does not win RR 93)
 
Adam said:
6foot9 said:
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs. honest mistake, won't happen again. ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.

I meant new as in someone who rarely ever gets pushed.

and the first person that mentions anything that happened during his time as Hornswoggles dad is a gay communist.
 
King Kamala said:
Seeing that makes me wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

He beat Don Muraco on what was actually the very first WWF PPV "The Wrestling Classic" in 1985. The first Wrestlemania was closed circuit, not PPV.
 
King Kamala said:
Seeing that makes me wonder what's the worst PPV record of all time--- almost has to be Tito Santana. I think the opener at the first WrestleMania was not only his only WrestleMania victory but his only PPV victory overall. Never won at a SummerSlam and I don't think he ever had a singles or tag match at Royal Rumble.

Why the hell is he in the WWE Hall of Fame if he lost so damn much ???

man finlays ppv record make Tito look like Hulk Hogan.

just went through 2007 and Finlay accomplished the following:

07 armageddon- vs. Khali (win)
07 survivor series- vs. triple h, jeff hardy, rey mysterio and Kane (teaming with umaga, kennedy, mvp and vis) (lost)
07 cyber sunday- vs rey in a stretcher match (lost)
07 no mercy- vs rey (no contest)
07 summer slam- vs. kane (lost)
07 wrestlemania- mitb (lost)
07 no way out- vs. Boogeyman (lost) (featuring midgets)
07 royal rumble- rumble (lost)

So since the beginning of 2007 Finlay is 2-14-1
 
and finally 06

06 armageddon- vs. cena and batista (teaming with Booker) (lost)
06 survivor series- vs. cena, kane, lashley, rvd, and sabu (teaming with big show, mvp, test and umaga) (lost)
06 no mercy- vs. booker, lashley and batista (lost)
06 great american bash- vs. regal (won)
06 judgment day- vs. benoit (lost)
06 wrestlemania- mitb (lost)

for an overall WWE ppv record of 3-19-1
 
I prefer posting in the threads to the chats, it's nice to have it for posterity.

So where can we watch said show if we don't feel like calling our local cable company to order now
 
6foot9 said:
Adam said:
6foot9 said:
sorry that I thought they were trying to let new guys step up and yet they refuse to let one of their best hands actually get some steam built under him by actually showcasing him on ppvs. honest mistake, won't happen again. ::)

Are we talking Finlay still? If so, he's hardly new, he's 51.

I meant new as in someone who rarely ever gets pushed.

and the first person that mentions anything that happened during his time as Hornswoggles dad is a gay communist.

Finlay's whole job detail is teaching new guys to work while putting them over. He doesn't need a push. Being Hornswoggle's dad turned out to be a huge reward for him because (I assume) he got a cut of some popular merchandise.
 
I think because he's an agent, he also gets his expenses paid for. So that's gotta rule
 
From what I saw, the opener looked really good and the crowd were very into it.
 
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