AEW in June 2023: Two shows, one thread

[Valeyard]

Danhausen sucking Punk's dick was way better when it was mostly a goof and not just what he posts now.

 

[muzzington]

He could be the only one trying to profit from the whole shemozzle effectively.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

So was Bowens publicly saying he was gay on rampage the first time a wrestler has done that on tv (that was actually gay not a storyline)? I can't remember many athletes in general yet doing that. The crowd reaction was also tremendous. The segment itself was terrible but that was great.

 

[Fall of Epic]

I was likely gonna watch anyway but Naito being added to Forbidden Door guarantees it as a must-watch.

 

[geniusMoment]

Great main event. I can't wait until Punk cuts a promo in front of a crowd like that. I just hope people don't start cheering him more. It will ruin it.

 

[909]

Andrade is one of the best wrestlers in the world (top ten at worst) and if I ran this company I'm not sure I could stop myself from putting the world title on him

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Great main event. I can't wait until Punk cuts a promo in front of a crowd like that. I just hope people don't start cheering him more. It will ruin it.

It’s pro wrestling in 2023. There will be dorks cheering him within a month.

 

[muzzington]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672944349582327809

Hyped

 

[Dandy]

Here is my speculation on if the Punk/Elite is work or shoot:

• The fight: 100% shoot
• The lingering animosity/pettiness between the two sides involved: shoot
• The veiled shots and rumblings that Punk/Elite have to be separated: work; the two sides agreed to make money off this (similar to Matt Hardy/Edge and many others throughout history). Punk is playing into his natural egotism and they are building toward at the very least a match.

WB wanted Punk on the new show and made it financially intriguing enough. The roster doesn’t truly need to be 100% separated or else there will be bloody brawls.

I am not saying I think this is great or bad. The execution of it is key as it always is. But you don’t want to come out and say, “Both sides are fine with each other and now we are going to show them on television play hating each other.” They’re just going to let the rumors continue and even lean into them to hopefully make some money.

We are, at our hearts, marks and want to be marks. At some point in the business, the business stopped viewing their marks as those who believed wrestling is real and changed to those who knew it wasn’t.

 

[909]

Blood and Guts will be in Boston

 

[Valeyard]

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I fucking knew it.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Dandy]

Huge if true.

 

[909]

Great first hour tonight. Good episode and at least this time Sting's match wasn't a mess.

 

[Tino Standard]

Sting doing a splash from a ladder in the ring to a table on the floor at 64 years of age is absolutely insane.

 

[skullman80]

I thought the opener between Mox and Ishii was fantastic....outside of that meh. I thought it was pretty bad overall.

I love Sting and appreciate what he tries to do at 64 and all but that spot was beyond dumb. The Painmaker thing with Jericho is so cringe as well. I also don't care about DO at all, so the stuff with Hangman does nothing for me even if I get what they are trying to do with the backstory.

Jungle Boy's promo was awwwwfulll and just came across as someone cosplaying someone trying to be a heel. Just awful. Ruby's promo was fine, but it was met with dead silence from the crowd...so that sucks.

Yeah just nothing outside the opener did anything for me last night at all.

 

[RedJed]

That was a tough crowd last night which is a shame because this city doesn't regularly get big wrestling shows and they also are having another show at this same place tonight with the Collision taping with a smaller crowd so it's gonna be a rough atmosphere, I expect some canned crowd responses for sure come Saturday. BTW this was the same arena as the first televised Royal Rumble I think back in Jan 88 and I swear they hadn't done any renovations to this place in 35 years, it looked exactly the same.

Sting and Guevara are fuckin snakebitten with them doing big spots together, let's just never have them interact again. You could tell right away there was no way Sting was going to clear that dive and sure enough. Why the tables were put so far out is beyond me. I thought other than that, the match itself was pretty entertaining though.

Ishii and Moxley was fucking awesome, the headbutt spots were hard to watch though!

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I didn't notice anything wrong with the crowd on Dynamite but I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I thought aside from the awful shit with Dark Order and The Elite it was a really good show.

 

[Valeyard]

Just micromanage me a Sting/Jericho singles match for seven minutes.

Jungle Boy fucking sucks. I almost hope they just have him go back with Christian and Luchasaurus so I can avoid all of them.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1674528021301133317

I know it's summer but man, can't feel good to have a rating like that coming off of such a hot PPV.

 

[909]

They had to have known a bad rating was coming. Adding another show will always hurt the ratings of the existing show.

 

[Valeyard]

I have faith in the Lethal LOLtery though.

 

[Tino Standard]

I mean, when you’re even catching strays from an ESPN PR guy…

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1674521328433463297

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

i've personally moved past caring about ratings especially on a weekly basis. It feels like a weird thing only wrestling fans care about and a hold over from the Monday Night Wars. You don't see NBA or NFL fans worrying over ratings for each game and comparing the ratings for the Lakers and the Knicks or whatever. AEW (and WWE) are in zero danger of losing their tv deals so all that matters to me is that the show is entertaining.

 

[Fall of Epic]

I'll have you know that the Knicks outdraw the Celtics AND the Lakers on TV.

 

[Valeyard]

Ratings are interesting, like box office numbers, but I don't care. It's hard to really care about numbers with AEW anyway since they aren't in it to make money.

 

[geniusMoment]

Ratings are interesting, like box office numbers, but I don't care. It's hard to really care about numbers with AEW anyway since they aren't in it to make money.

This, times 1000.

It's crazy if you really analyze how much money the Khans have. They could go down to Jacksonville Beach and burn 20 million dollars in cash to cook up all their fans a delicious hamburger and hot dog buffet and it wouldn't mean shit to them.

 

[skullman80]

As long is Warner is happy then that's all that really matters in regards to the ratings. I couldn't care less about them.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

This, times 1000.

It's crazy if you really analyze how much money the Khans have. They could go down to Jacksonville Beach and burn 20 million dollars in cash to cook up all their fans a delicious hamburger and hot dog buffet and it wouldn't mean shit to them.

Elite BBQ would need to have some vegan options, like a Beyond Steak n' Violife Cheese slider.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

this is a very boring episode of Collision so far.