Conrad Thompson, Double J, Freddie Prinze Jr and the quest for a #3 promotion in North America

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I absolutely refuse to even hate watch this company.


Unless they bring in Vince Russo to help with creative...

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

If it's sold out than how can no one be having none of it?

Internet wrestling fans are having none of it. You know those are the only fans that exist.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Sadly, I do think there is a market for an anti-woke wrestling promotion. Whether it's large enough to sustain a full time promotion, Idk but I think they'll do well for a minute.

 

[Valeyard]

I was hoping they'd have the show #cancelled under suspicious circumstances while pocketing all the money.

I'm not going to watch them regardless, as amusing as I find this. I can stare at my own toilet, thank you very much.

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

I say if their first show runs smoothly with no technical issues then they'll run events throughout the year before the audience dries up and/or Braun is re-signed by WWE.

Feel free to quote this post when they become the #3 promotion in the US.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Dead lirl

 

[909]

The last few weeks show exactly why AEW didn't bring Braun into their locker room.

 

[Valeyard]

411MANIA | Control Your Narrative Announces Deal With Pro Wrestling TV

Control Your Narrative has announced a TV deal with Pro Wrestling Tv, a new network that will make its debut in April...

411mania.com

This is beginning to fly a little too close to the sun for me.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[tekcop]

Kurt who?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Mad Kurt, a UK indie wrestler who is more known for trolling right wing wrestlers.

I wish it was Kurt Angle making a Joe Mama joke too though.

Edit- I just realized that Kurt Angle is a free agent and if he shows up in CYN, I will cry.

 

[BruiserBrody]

On the subject of 3rd tier promotions.... Without googling to refresh my memory, how did the XWF fail so fast? Even freaking Wrestlelicious made syndication!
The world is a worse place for not getting Greg Valentine on a weekly wrestling show in 2002.

IIRC Wrestlelicious was funded by one random dude who won the lottery and blew it all on a ladies wrestling league (with Jimmy Hart booking or somesuch)

Alternative history: Paul Heyman is funded in 2001 by either the Jarretts (turning ECW into TNA: Extreme Edition) or finds the funding to give him access to the early generation of ROH talents before ROH and TNA form to claim their piece of the pie.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

On the subject of 3rd tier promotions.... Without googling to refresh my memory, how did the XWF fail so fast?

For whatever reason, wrestling was considered poison by TV executives in 2001. Which is crazy considering they were bending over backwards to add programming just a few years before. If Monday Nitro and Thunder, shows that for better worse, established high rated cable programs couldn't find new networks then why should a new promotion expect to find TV time? And without TV time, you're a glorified indie which is a place basically no one in XWF wanted to be.

I think they failed because hardly anyone there felt like they really NEEDED the job. It was just a fun place to go and try and relive their WWF and WCW glory days. I think once it became clear that there was no easy path to compete with WWF, everyone but Jimmy Hart and 1 or 2 guys just took their ball and went home. They probably could have tried to grind it out for a while like TNA but the median age of their roster was old!

 

[BruiserBrody]

For whatever reason, wrestling was considered poison by TV executives in 2001. Which is crazy considering they were bending over backwards to add programming just a few years before. If Monday Nitro and Thunder, shows that for better worse, established high rated cable programs couldn't find new networks then why should a new promotion expect to find TV time? And without TV time, you're a glorified indie which is a place basically no one in XWF wanted to be.

I think they failed because hardly anyone there felt like they really NEEDED the job. It was just a fun place to go and try and relive their WWF and WCW glory days. I think once it became clear that there was no easy path to compete with WWF, everyone but Jimmy Hart and 1 or 2 guys just took their ball and went home. They probably could have tried to grind it out for a while like TNA but the median age of their roster was old!

They kind of had a chance to hit the road for one tour, almost a legends of wrestling on the road type of thing, but I guess their limited dates (including the GB house show I attended) must not have set the gates on fire.

The spontaneous pop, followed by everyone standing in excitement when Roddy Piper opened the show will always be a memory I will enjoy.
Seeing the Road Warriors (Washed version) was great too. My brother trash talked Knobbs as the Nasty Boys made their way past us.
Animal could be seen watching from the curtains as Kid Kash tore the place down against Josh Matthews (IIRC). The Hammer went over Hale (Hail?) in the upset of the night.

I remember way more of that event than of the ECW house show I went to in 2000.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I feel like XWF was an idea that was a few years too soon. '80s nostalgia really didn't become a thing until the mid '00s. Even then though, I think building a promotion around nostalgia is foolish. You can't sustain a company around storylines that all center around "Hey remember when---?" Although WWE of the past five years has certainly tried.

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

WWA was a better XWF and WWA stunk.

 

[Valeyard]

XWF looked better visually and felt like a proper promotion. WWA felt like...not that, I guess. Gimme a slow-motion Hogan/Hennig match over Bananas In Pajamas every time.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I inexplicably loved it at the time but WWA has aged poorly. It just looks like the dingiest episode of WCW Thunder. It made '02-'03 TNA's look good. Don't let your Nathan Jones nostalgia cloud your memories, @Winter Epicland !

 

[Valeyard]

Kind of surprising Jarrett didn't want Jones in TNA. He'd have been a decent monster, at least when Malice was gone.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Nathan Jones had probably already moved on to acting by that point. He's great in the Tony Jaa movies.

 

[Valeyard]

Nah I mean before he even went WWE, like the earliest of TNA's existence. Would've fit really nicely.

 

[BruiserBrody]

For whatever reason, wrestling was considered poison by TV executives in 2001. Which is crazy considering they were bending over backwards to add programming just a few years before. If Monday Nitro and Thunder, shows that for better worse, established high rated cable programs couldn't find new networks then why should a new promotion expect to find TV time? And without TV time, you're a glorified indie which is a place basically no one in XWF wanted to be.

I think they failed because hardly anyone there felt like they really NEEDED the job. It was just a fun place to go and try and relive their WWF and WCW glory days. I think once it became clear that there was no easy path to compete with WWF, everyone but Jimmy Hart and 1 or 2 guys just took their ball and went home. They probably could have tried to grind it out for a while like TNA but the median age of their roster was old!

Only counter I have for all that is the whole WrestleLicious thing. I know that made Syndication in GB for sure.

Wrestlicious - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

OMG.... Nevermind.... That happened in 2009!?!?! I would have sworn it happened right around XWF/TNA/WWA era stuff.

Tag Teams:

The Lunch Ladies

Fran and Gert

*chortles*

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500259015313567749

“What’s new?” reacts only.

Didn’t seem like I missed much else except it seems a lot more intentionally goofy than I expected and Braun Strowman now has the same hair cut as the Powers of Pain.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Almost every event starts with the anthem. Of all the things CYN is doing that is not a thing to care about in the least.

 

[muzzington]

It was the Russian anthem though.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

stolen from reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/t7n0a8

im sorry but this sounds fucking hilarious and altogether amazing

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Almost every event starts with the anthem. Of all the things CYN is doing that is not a thing to care about in the least.

Not wrestling though. In past ten years, I have been to dozens if not hundreds of shows and the only time they played the anthem was during a random NXT house show during the initial Kaeprrnick controversy.

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

When I went to local shows regularly back in 2002-2003, they played the anthem. If seemed weird and out of place and no one seemed to give a shit, but they played it.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah, indies played the anthems in the early '00s cause of 9/11 and start of the War on Terror and people would call you unAmerican (RIP Test) if you didn't play it before any gathering. It's definitely very unusual before an indie show now!

That review didn't mention that Josh Woods (who was supposed to wrestle Aries) was unable to make it due to "contractual obligations" so maybe he's signed with AEW now and talent relation was like "Please don't go to that show"?

I thought it's nice that two guys I know were on the Maine shindie card (Vinny Pacifico and Abraham Khan) that EC3 randomly did last year were on this show. That trip to Bangor was not wasted time for Ethan. Now if Dr. Heresy gets added to CYN's roster then they'll have me and @Laz's attention.

 

[alkeiper]

Indy shows I’ve been to played the anthem, but outside of Wilkes-Barre city it’s pretty heavily Trump country.