General Horror Films & TV Discussion Thread

[Valeyard]

It's so funny how David Gordon Green went from making George Washington and being the future of indie film* to the stoner comedy guy to the horror reboot guy. I love the weird trajectory and respect it.

*I will never forget him saying Kevin Smith turned indie film into the Special Olympics

 

[Youth N Asia]

Was waiting for a new page.

Bloody Hell was my best blind watch in quite some time.

Great little horror movie. Never seen the lead Ben O’Toole before this. He was fantastic. Just an awesome mix of suspense, horror, comedy, dread. Super high recommendation. If you just want a 90 minute horror flick I say check this one, and go in without watching a trailer…but if you need it. Here’s a trailer.

 

[RedJed]

Just saw Talk To Me. Really good little horror movie from A24 with a great lead performance from Sophie Wilde. Worth checking out. Some solid scares, great make-up design, and a decent enough plot with some emotional heart to it.

7.5/10

This one got me pretty freaked out, particularly that the possession scenes really got raw and unnerving the longer they extended out. One character in particular was jarring to me how brutal and violent his experience was, and it had quite an impact on me.

This was going into the best horror of the year territory for me until the third act really didn't fully resonate with the rest of the film. It felt like the pace was great that first hour but then things just felt astray in that last half hour. This was a film that certainly could maybe use some extra time to build to the finish.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I really want to support Neil Marshall. Dog Soldiers is b-movie excellence with a cast and SFX far beyond the budget, the Descent is the only horror film to truly give me chills since reaching puberty, and Doomsday is such a blast.

But holy hell does the Lair fuck the dog.

It could have been a return to form for him, a monster siege flick with some atmosphere, but it's almost below Asylum levels in execution.

 

[Gary]

I really want to support Neil Marshall. Dog Soldiers is b-movie excellence with a cast and SFX far beyond the budget, the Descent is the only horror film to truly give me chills since reaching puberty, and Doomsday is such a blast.

But holy hell does the Lair fuck the dog.

It could have been a return to form for him, a monster siege flick with some atmosphere, but it's almost below Asylum levels in execution.

His last two movies (the "Hellboy" remake and whatever that one with his wife was) were terrible, so at this point I've just accepted he probably doesn't have it anymore.

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1699074923313152436

Again, who asked for this?

 

[Gary]

Outside of "Cabin Fever" and the first two "Hostel" movies, I'm not a fan of Eli Roth, and the other "Grindhouse" spinoff "Machete" goes from whatevs to terrible. That being said, this doesn't look too bad, and he's been trying to get this made for 15 years, so good for him I guess.

 

[Brocklock]

Yeah I don't like Eli Roth and had low expectations, but this could be fun and we need more Thanksgiving horror films like Blood Rage.

 

[AA484]

Tentative watchlist. I'm sure I'll catch some vintage theater shows, so I'll probably end up chopping a couple off:

Saw
The Omen
An American Werewolf in London
Let the Right One In
The Cabin in the Woods
The Thing
Train to Busan
Forbidden Planet
Toxic Avenger
Event Horizon
Incredible Shrinking Man
Sleepaway Camp
[REC]
Fiend Without a Face
House
What We Do in the Shadows
The Fly
Killer Klowns
You're Next
The Tingler
Creepshow 2
The Babadook
The Curse of Frankenstein
Firestarter
Autopsy of Jane Doe
The Horror of Dracula
F13 Jason Lives
The Ritual
The Mummy (Hammer)
F13 Final Chapter
Martyrs

 

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[Youth N Asia]

I thought Jason Lives was my favorite until a recent rewatch. The kills are so censored. So 2-4 is my golden run.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I think 6 has the strongest plot of the entire series, best soundtrack (fuck y'all, "Man Behind the Mask" is awesome), and deserves respect for introducing one of the most integral aspects of the franchise (Jason being undead)...but yeah. 2 is bae.

 

[strummer]

4 was always my favorite but I think 2 has surpassed it. It's maybe the grittiest, most naturalistic film of the series. The acting is not great but I think that kinda adds to the realism of the film. On the flip the more I watch 3 the more I dislike it. Same director too.

 

[Brocklock]

3 and 4 are my favorite. 4 is the best overall but I find 3 so much fun and Jason is probably at his scariest in 3. The comedy brings 6 down for me (that paintball scene is so grating), but it's still one of the best of the franchise. I'd rank as my top 5

1. Part 4
2. Part 3
3. Part 2
4. Part 6
5. Part 1 ( I find it oddly relaxing. It's boring at times, but really chill and the final cat and mouse stuff is great. It has an atmosphere most of the others lack.)

 

[AA484]

Final Chapter for me. Pretty gruesome kills, Tommy Jarvis debut, interesting ending

 

[strummer]

4's final sequence is still amazing and the acting is probably the best in the series.

I don't know the obvious 3D sequences in 3 kind of annoy me to a degree. Plus I find the Shelly character pretty annoying (I know that was the point but still). Dana Kimmell is fine as the lead but like I said a lot of the secondary characters are grating. Her boyfriend is especially bad.

 

[Brocklock]

All that badness adds to the fun to me. The boyfriend is so wooden and the lady stoner might be the worst actor in the entire series. I love the bikers though. And for some reason, Shelly doesn't really bother me. He's so geeky, he's almost endearing. I usually hate prankster characters too. Ned from part 1 and Stu from part 2 probably were just as annoying.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Been re-watching a lot of Tales From the Darkside on COMET and it still holds up pretty well, despite its 80s-ness. I remember watching this show back to back with Monsters on the Sci-Fi Channel during the summer back in 1994-1996 around 10 or 11 AM before lunchtime.

 

[Valeyard]

All that badness adds to the fun to me. The boyfriend is so wooden and the lady stoner might be the worst actor in the entire series. I love the bikers though. And for some reason, Shelly doesn't really bother me. He's so geeky, he's almost endearing. I usually hate prankster characters too. Ned from part 1 and Stu from part 2 probably were just as annoying.

I hate Shelly but I also love how much I anticipate his death because of it.

2-4 are fantastic and what I love the most is how they're direct sequels (usual timeline goofiness notwithstanding). Just the thought of these occuring over the course of a few days makes it seem like an epic horror story. 4 is the best for a ton of reasons, but it really gets me every time how there are actual characters in it vs just the expendible teenagers. Like I'd watch an 80s teen movie with Crispin Glover and the rest of that cast. Also the dog stunt kills me because that is the happiest movie dog.

2 would be higher on my list if it didn't feel like important things were cut out.

 

[Brocklock]

eh fuck it my full rankings

1. Part 4
2. Part 3
3. Part 2
4. Part 6
5. Part 1
6. Part 7 (The final battle between Jason and Tina elevates this. Dumbest ending in the series maybe though)
7. Remake (Keeps rising on rewatches. Way better than I remember, but still kind of forgettable and the kills don't really stick out. The Dolph Ziggler looking guy named Trent was hilarious and I actually don't mind survivalist Jason.)
8. Part 5 (First guilty pleasure. Absolutely terrible movie with some bizarre, and memorable characters that bring it above a lot of the series. This is also one of the first in the series I watched.)
9. Freddy vs Jason (The fight kicks ass, but my god are the rest of the performances besides Robert England and Jason terrible. Still holds a place in my heart for cheesy reasons, and for better or worse is a complete time capsule to the cesspool that was 2003.)
10. Jason Goes To Hell (Also kind of a guilty pleasure. The coroner eating Jason's heart then making lion roar noises while cheesy laser special effects shoot out of him is probably the funniest scene in the series. Kills are gnarly too and I really enjoy Stephen Williams as Creighton Duke. It's a bad movie, but I have fun with it.)
11. Jason X (I get why people enjoy this, but it's not for me. The snarky Scream esque dialogue is so grating here, and honestly I find it kind of boring at times. Probably the best death in the series, though with the face being frozen, then smashed.)
12. Jason Takes Manhattan (I like the Julius character and his death, and that's about it. Longest film in the franchise, and it sure feels it. I find this the most dull and the kills are edited down to nothing. The characters are so flat, and I hate showing baby Jason again.)

 

[Valeyard]

Manhattan is always such a letdown. I forget how much I dislike it and put on, get reminded, and a few years later the cycle repeats. It's bullshit that a movie where people are isolated on a boat with Jason sucks that bad because that premise should be fun. Jensen Daggett is an underrated final girl, too.

5 I don't like as a Friday the 13th movie but as a standalone sleazy horror movie, it's awesome.

Jason Goes To Hell doesn't do it for me but yeah George Washington Duke eating the heart is badass.

Agreed on FvJ but the awfulness of the performances makes it for me. It's just an update on the bad performances of the first couple movies with a new super dated aesthetic. The massacre in the corn field is also really good, plus Scut Farkus getting killed is just funny.

7 doesn't do it for me. The post-5 movies are harder for me because then it just literally is about the cool ways people get killed vs being a horror movie with people getting killed in cool ways. Like the pretense is gone and the pretense was what made it work for me. Jason's one of my favorite characters and has no business being as interesting as he is, so those times where that's 100% in the backseat to just gore is bittersweet. I didn't care at all for Tina or her story, really. It felt like two scripts slammed together.

6 is just fun and a return to form. Tommy Jarvis and his marble mouth are wonderful.

 

[Brocklock]

Fake Jack Black is a highlight of the cornfield scene in FVJ. Much funnier than Fake Jason Mewes.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Oh, so it's that time again? We're ranking F13 movies?

1. Part 2
2. Part 6
3. Part 4
4. Part 1
5. FVJ
6. Part 7
7. Part 3
8. JGTH
9. Part 8
10. X
11. Remake (not awful, just not as fun)
12. Part 5 (no, just bad)

 

[Youth N Asia]

Part 4: The Final Chapter
Part 2
Part 3
Part 6: Jason Lives
Part 1
Part 7: The New Blood
FvsJ
Part 5: A New Beginning
Part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan
2009
Jason X
Jason Goes to Hell

People don’t like part 5 because it’s Friday without Jason. But so is Goes to Hell. Jason in random bodies does nothing for me. One of the best openings ever in the series though, and Duke is a lot of fun. Maybe I owe it t a rewatch.

I get that people that might not like Freddy vs Jason. Other than the fuck you ending I thought it was mostly fun. Nice that they kept with tradition of having bad actors in the rolls.

X is mostly fun. I actually got this movie like 6 months before it came out due to tape trading. Didn’t even know the movie was happening. But I can’t get over people about to meet their doom deciding it’s time for a funny little one-liner. I also watched with directors commentary, and the guy thought his comedy was just solid gold.

It’s a bummer that the best Jason is in some of the worst movies.

Parts 1, and 7 can flip-flop at any time. I think the list otherwise is set for me.

 

[Fall of Epic]

What is the deal with the "Jay" character in Freddy vs Jason? Did they want Jason Mewes for the film and he turned them down? (pretty sure he was in rehab at that point). Just seemed like complete "we have Jason Mewes at home" casting.

 

[strummer]

The nerdy guy from part 5 with a stutter is one of the most underrated characters in the series. Love me some Jake.

 

[Youth N Asia]

What is the deal with the "Jay" character in Freddy vs Jason? Did they want Jason Mewes for the film and he turned them down? (pretty sure he was in rehab at that point). Just seemed like complete "we have Jason Mewes at home" casting.

There’s a funny bit in the Crystal Lake Memories doc where Jason Mewes starts talking about his time on the movie, says something like “wait. I wasn’t in this.” Then leaves the interview segment.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

What is the deal with the "Jay" character in Freddy vs Jason? Did they want Jason Mewes for the film and he turned them down? (pretty sure he was in rehab at that point). Just seemed like complete "we have Jason Mewes at home" casting.

Had to just be a case where the Askewniverse was hot at the time, so they had to toss in a "late 90s/early 00s stoner type" because it's a slasher flick. Both series dealt with generic stereotypes for their teenagers, so I never understood the hate that this one got.

 

[Valeyard]

They might've assumed since Mewes was in Scream 3 for a cameo, he'd do FvJ. Fake Jay didn't really bother me because it was too stupid to worry about. Now the fake Jay in Detroit Rock City? Fuck that guy.

 

[Gary]

This almost makes me wish I hadn't canceled my Shudder subscription (it hasn't been the same since they got rid of a good portion of their staff, and their originals are usually not very good)