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I think the fucked up courts are also a major ratings killing eye sore.
 

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Yeah the NBA Cup with the designed court floors is an awful idea. The cup itself is fine I guess, but ditch the floors. Also, I don't like the participation trophy Play In Tourney. Ruined two Bulls seasons in a row because they refused to tank so Jerry could get an extra Home game revenue.
 

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Gee, I wonder why ratings are down. Something has to be done. The everyone just shoots 3's approach of the game has made it not much fun to watch for me. It seems worse than ever this season. I've barely been paying attention to Bulls games for weeks now because it's obvious they are gonna just jack threes and hope to win that way.

I haven't really cared for the change of the game over the last decade or so and some of Silver's rule changes and ideas aren't my thing. I honestly preferred David Stern to Adam Silver at this point.

With the pitch clock and the speed increasing in the game, Baseball has been much more fun to watch than NBA for at least two years now imo. And the major superstars in baseball are more intriguing and dynamic than the big dawgs of the NBA for me. Ohtani going for 50/50 is way more incredible than someone hitting 18 threes in a game or whatever record will be broken this year.
Meh. I've been on record for over thirty years with my belief that the three-point shot is the worst thing ever to happen to the NBA, but I'm not willing to cosign this. I feel like you could ask ten people why "ratings are down" in the NBA and get seven different answers. It appears to be human nature to attribute any negative action that happens to a thing to a direct consequence of whatever aspect or trait you personally don't like about that thing. You think they shoot too many threes? Well, clearly that's why the ratings are down. Think that they don't play enough defense? That's why the ratings are really down. Think the players are too "woke"? That must be why the ratings are down. Too many star calls? Well, actually, that's why the ratings are down. Players don't take the regular season seriously? Oh, I guess that's why the ratings are down.

It's like most people make up their minds what they don't like about a thing and work their takes backwards from there.
 

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Of course there are multiple reasons the ratings are down, that doesn't mean that one thing doesn't have more of an effect that others.

I like 3pointers and I think it's having more of a negative than positive effect right now. It's too easy. They need to move the line further back. The best players will still be making shots and it will be impressive and challenging again. They also need to do less video reviews and coach's challenge shit at the end of games because it turns it into a slog.
 

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Miami is reportedly listening to offers for Jimmy Butler, with the Warriors, Mavs, Rockets and Suns among the teams interested. It amazes me how many doofuses on Twitter are seemingly willing to gut their team for 35-year old injury prone Jimmy Butler and think that's their answer to winning a title. The bubble was 5 years ago, get the fuck over it
 

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Of course there are multiple reasons the ratings are down, that doesn't mean that one thing doesn't have more of an effect that others.

I like 3pointers and I think it's having more of a negative than positive effect right now. It's too easy. They need to move the line further back. The best players will still be making shots and it will be impressive and challenging again. They also need to do less video reviews and coach's challenge shit at the end of games because it turns it into a slog.
I didn't mean anything by what I said. Just that, the 3 pointers is making me not want to watch the sport. There's a bunch of factors. The officiating really has done a number for a lot of fans. The slowing the game down with fouling and video reviews as well. I think letting 20 teams have a shot in the playoffs dilutes the game and many others agree. And, the stars imo just aren't that interesting, and there aren't as many loud personalities as there were in the past like Jordan, Kobe, Barkley, Shaq, Rodman, etc. They are all mostly chill and the ones that try to be competitive like Ant are kind of cornball. It feels like Steph, LeBron, and KD are among the most important players still. It's also really hard for fans of some teams to watch the games legally compared to NFL. I've been sailing the seas for Bulls games because this stupid Chicago Sports Network that no one can get.

Ratings are down 28% on ESPN and 48% since 2012 in general. NBA will be okay obviously, but they are in a transition point between that next LeBron/Kobe/MJ face of the NBA megastar to carry the brand.
 
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Of course there are multiple reasons the ratings are down, that doesn't mean that one thing doesn't have more of an effect that others.

I like 3pointers and I think it's having more of a negative than positive effect right now. It's too easy. They need to move the line further back. The best players will still be making shots and it will be impressive and challenging again. They also need to do less video reviews and coach's challenge shit at the end of games because it turns it into a slog.
Cool. Y'all got it.
 

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Making the line further back seems crazy, also it will just make modern day fans disrespect the old dawgs even more than they do now.
 

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I didn't mean anything by what I said. Just that, the 3 pointers is making me not want to watch the sport. There's a bunch of factors. The officiating really has done a number for a lot of fans. The slowing the game down with fouling and video reviews as well. I think letting 20 teams have a shot in the playoffs dilutes the game and many others agree. And, the stars imo just aren't that interesting, and there aren't as many loud personalities as there were in the past like Jordan, Kobe, Barkley, Shaq, Rodman, etc. They are all mostly chill and the ones that try to be competitive like Ant are kind of cornball. It feels like Steph, LeBron, and KD are among the most important players still. It's also really hard for fans of some teams to watch the games legally compared to NFL. I've been sailing the seas for Bulls games because this stupid Chicago Sports Network that no one can get.

Ratings are down 28% on ESPN and 48% since 2012 in general. NBA will be okay obviously, but they are in a transition point between that next LeBron/Kobe/MJ face of the NBA megastar to carry the brand.
It was addressed to Slim. You can think what you want man.
 

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Making the line further back seems crazy, also it will just make modern day fans disrespect the old dawgs even more than they do now.
Time's change. The game has to keep up with the athletes or it becomes irrelevant. If the fans want to disrespect the GOAT's that on them.
 

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Soccer and football fields have been the same for like a hundred years, changing the field itself sounds like gimmicky bullshit
 

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Soccer and football fields have been the same for like a hundred years, changing the field itself sounds like gimmicky bullshit
Those fields never had arbitrary points given based on how far away the shot was though. The three point line is arbitrary. It should be set wherever it is needed to be for a certain percentage of shots to go in or not.
 

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They also did change football fields, they moved the goalposts. They've moved the kickoff line numerous times.

In soccer due to an overreliance on defensive play they made it so that the goalie can't pick up balls that are passed back to them

Times change.
 

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Saw a commercial for a new ABC sitcom while watching the final of the "We Gettin' Arab Money" Cup, and now I guess I'm about to find out whether or not my infatuation with Kat Dennings is greater than my dislike of Tim Allen.
 

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/60...ade-rumors-nuggets/?source=emp_shared_article

Nuggets should do it. The article says Michael Porter Jr and Zeke Nnaji is the likely package, but that doesn't really make us better unless MPJ stops getting injured all the time and unlocks his potential. The goal the next two years imo should be to try to get top 5 picks.

Zach with Jokic would be sick. He gets to the basket easily and his cutting combined with Jokic's passing would be lethal. His shooting has been great this season as well.
 

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Saw a commercial for a new ABC sitcom while watching the final of the "We Gettin' Arab Money" Cup, and now I guess I'm about to find out whether or not my infatuation with Kat Dennings is greater than my dislike of Tim Allen.
I can tell you that mine is not and I love me some Kat Dennings.
 

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Luka Doncic is going to be out at least 1 Month with a hamstring injury I believe. Another blow to the NBA in terms of having its "stars" stay healthy and stay on the court.
 

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I just heard Chuck give the most bozo dumbass rant against JJ Redick because JJ said Inside spends too much time shitting on people and destroying the NBA product. Cue Chuck whining like a little girl for five minutes about the NBA product and about how he can destroy JJ’s career. Meanwhile there’s highlights of a good Celtics-Wolves game on and this dude isn’t even talking about that game, he’s just acting like an old spoiled loser. Just lost a ton of respect for that dude.

Maybe people are right that these guys bring negativity to the table that ultimately hurts the game. Like it’s not good for this sport that the primary media coverage of it is just shitting on everything about the game. No other sport has a relationship with their media like this one. I ain’t only talking about Chuck now. NBA media don’t wanna talk about anything that’s good and just wanna hate nonstop. Pretty much everything teams do is viewed from a negative lens of ‘why would they do that when they ain’t getting a ring’ and brother there’s no wonder ratings are down when everyone’s approaching the sport like this. Nobody says shit about the NFL like ‘why hire Harbaugh when the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl anyway.’ It’s seriously unhealthy to view basketball the way it’s being covered at this point. Everything has been calibrated to view any season that falls short of making the Finals as an absolute failure. Did Lions fans feel that way about their 2023 season? Super ludicrous.
 

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As a big supporter of Charles, this is absolutely his most annoying trait, the fact that he can't always seem to accept that his era has passed and the game has changed. I grew up watching his era, and I miss it, and I do believe there are traits of the current era that make it tough to watch at times, but it's annoying to have to hear about it constantly, and Chuck has been beating this horse for a long time. The good parts still outweigh the bad by a fair margin.

To the point of everything having to be about winning the ring, the current NBA media culture to me kinda stems from the GOAT debate. I am team Jordan over LeBron personally, but for fuck's sake the man retired 20 years ago. His stans are a big part of the problem. LeBron's stans are annoying too but it seems largely in retaliation to all the 90's boomer-esque takes.

In the case of JJ Redick specifically though, he became famous post-career for going on ESPN and saying that only plumbers and firemen played in Bill Russell's era. Maybe don't dish it out if you can't take it
 

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I find the Inside the NBA guys really entertaining for the most part but it's usually when they're having fun not when they're being super negative. No one needs to hear it over and over. The game has problems but like Alf says there's still a lot of good. You don't have to be cheerleaders but make your point and move on.

The Jordan Vs Lebron shit is beyond tiring and I've been following basketball for like half of Lebron's career.
 

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Jimmy Butler just got suspended by the Heat for 7 games as they look to explore trades.

Looks like it’s going to be an ugly breakup between Jimmy and Pat…
 

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Jimmy Butler just got suspended by the Heat for 7 games as they look to explore trades.

Looks like it’s going to be an ugly breakup between Jimmy and Pat…
I heard that he may execute his $50+ Million player option for next year only to try & force a trade.
 

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The Clippers beat the Nets tonight 125-67. A 58 point win. And the Nets scored 67 the whole game. A half time score for most teams.
 

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I heard that he may execute his $50+ Million player option for next year only to try & force a trade.

It’s funny because some of the rumors are the Heat may except less value to get mega money off the books for a big FA in the off-season. I don’t hate Jimmy for executing that to gain more leverage.
 

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If he wins another MVP and chip this year we may have to have some uncomfortable conversations about all-time great big man rankings
 
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