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My favorite band, all time, is Green Day. I have Kerplunk's artwork tattooed on my arm. I almost exclusively play Green Day (and their side projects) playlists on my Ipod. I randomly imagine myself in a Green Day cover band.

I decided to investigate some of their early contemporaries or influences if you will and started with "Operation Ivy" since GD covered Knowledge on "Slappy." I added "contemporaries" since "influences" might be a stretch.


This was an abject failure. I found myself skipping almost every song that came up in shuffle. I'd let a good 30-45 seconds, sometimes a full minute, play and almost every time it didn't resonate with me. In a weird kind of way, I've realized if this is what punk purists really enjoy, then I understand why purists get up in arms about Green Day. On a disparity in sound, at least.

I see where earlier in the thread Operation Ivy was referred to as "Ska" though. I might need some schooling.
 

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FUCK CANCER.

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Saints_Fan_H said:
My favorite band, all time, is Green Day. I have Kerplunk's artwork tattooed on my arm. I almost exclusively play Green Day (and their side projects) playlists on my Ipod. I randomly imagine myself in a Green Day cover band.

I decided to investigate some of their early contemporaries or influences if you will and started with "Operation Ivy" since GD covered Knowledge on "Slappy." I added "contemporaries" since "influences" might be a stretch.


This was an abject failure. I found myself skipping almost every song that came up in shuffle. I'd let a good 30-45 seconds, sometimes a full minute, play and almost every time it didn't resonate with me. In a weird kind of way, I've realized if this is what punk purists really enjoy, then I understand why purists get up in arms about Green Day. On a disparity in sound, at least.

I see where earlier in the thread Operation Ivy was referred to as "Ska" though. I might need some schooling.

You might have more luck with the Mr. T Experience

https://youtu.be/8dvaOEuP-_U

https://youtu.be/ajaejPsU7ok

https://youtu.be/xjlAEw5t3EA
 

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Saints_Fan_H said:
My favorite band, all time, is Green Day. I have Kerplunk's artwork tattooed on my arm. I almost exclusively play Green Day (and their side projects) playlists on my Ipod. I randomly imagine myself in a Green Day cover band.

I decided to investigate some of their early contemporaries or influences if you will and started with "Operation Ivy" since GD covered Knowledge on "Slappy." I added "contemporaries" since "influences" might be a stretch.


This was an abject failure. I found myself skipping almost every song that came up in shuffle. I'd let a good 30-45 seconds, sometimes a full minute, play and almost every time it didn't resonate with me. In a weird kind of way, I've realized if this is what punk purists really enjoy, then I understand why purists get up in arms about Green Day. On a disparity in sound, at least.

I see where earlier in the thread Operation Ivy was referred to as "Ska" though. I might need some schooling.
OpIvy covers the entire spectrum from punk rock to ska punk, and even have a few tracks that veer off into the "hardcore" sub-genre. I definitely wouldn't have suggested them for a Green Day fan, though, so I'm not entirely surprised by your reaction to them.

Personally, I don't consider myself a "purist" per se, but I'm definitely less likely to enjoy post-success Green Day than I am their prior incarnation. Same goes for bands like Jawbreaker and even Rancid. As soon as they get money behind them, they just end up sounding like they've been sanitized for the masses. It's not that they don't make good music anymore.. it's just.. not the same and less enjoyable (for me). I think this is why OpIvy is a big fave for me (before they split and Rancid was formed). They're very raw sounding. A lot of their tracks aren't even in stereo. It just feels more visceral.
 

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I feel like Green Day is hard to categorize in terms of similar sounding bands, especially in the punk vein, given the time they started getting big (1993-1995) because bands of similar ilk such as The Offspring, Weezer, or even No Doubt who maybe had punk leanings really transitioned hard into a poppier rock sound in general. To me at least, bands like a Pennywise tended to stay closer to their punk roots during this mid-90s era.

But to Saints_Fan_H, if you're willing to look at older influences: The Dickies and definitely The Buzzcocks would pop to mind as bands you'd probably dig if you liked Green Day's sound.
 

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Fair warning: the Dickies feel way more "hair band" than they do what you may think of as 80s punk. Killer live show, though, even seeing them past their prime in 2004 yielded a great experience.
 

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When in doubt, just bust out Stiff Little Fingers and some Buzzcocks. Slides together well, in my opinion.
 

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I started a new blog and my second post is a write-up about the Nuns, one of San Francisco's earliest punk bands. There are also several Easter egg MP3 downloads if you can find them. Enjoy!

https://rocknwrestling.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-nuns.html
 
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