Racism in wrestling (but mostly WWE) thread

[Hawk 34]

I can kind of see it, especially when it comes to the underrated heel run Maven had that felt very early heel Rock. But Maven did have moments where he would do little things like trying to pull facial expressions like the Rock. Nothing at all to get bitched at for, especially by the only guy in the business Rock hates.

You found the reason Shawn said what he said in the first place.

Quite amusing that all these years later, Rock’s kid is under the thumb of Shawn.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1689682001488486404

MINUS FIVE STARS!

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

There's a time and a place where that kind of idea could have worked, but it's so far in the past that it's sharing a drink with "musical people."

 

[Valeyard]

Think of all the merch White Power Bay Bay would sell though.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

In an alternate universe, Big Show signs with XPW during one of his fallouts with WWE and has a "Wight Power" shirt made up

 

[Valeyard]

The break in 2007 where he was working shows with Hogan using as Paul "The Great" Wight could've spun in a whole different direction for both of them.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

bryan alveraz is and always has been a goof. The AEW fanbase would lose its shit in a very bad way over that booking.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Considering how outspoken MJF has been about the current rise of antisemitism , I’m sure he’d be totally willing to do an angle where someone throws coins at him for a babyface reaction.

 

[Valeyard]

Even TK blinked

 

[Tino Standard]

Considering how outspoken MJF has been about the current rise of antisemitism , I’m sure he’d be totally willing to do an angle where someone throws coins at him for a babyface reaction.

I assumed Alvarez was suggesting this as a heel turn move, which…hey, maybe how about we just try a heel turn (or a clean finish) that doesn’t involve antisemitic overtones?

 

[BruiserBrody]

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Crockett lost TV in Roanoke, Virginia in 1966 when Ike Eikens called Luther Lindsey a "n*igger" TWICE on-air (the second time during the "apology" the station ordered him to do).

 

[BruiserBrody]

Jay Youngblood and Johnny Weaver (8)	November 27, 1981	MACW show	Appalachia, Virginia	1	N/A
43	Ox Baker and Carl Fergie	December 2, 1981	MACW show	N/A	1	N/A
44	Jay Youngblood (2) and Porkchop Cash	January 29, 1982	MACW show	Charleston, South Carolina	1	N/A
45	Don Kernodle and Pvt. Jim Nelson	May 22, 1982	MACW show	N/A	1	N/A
46	Porkchop Cash (2) and Iceman Parsons	June 1, 1982	MACW show	N/A	1	16
47	Don Kernodle and Jim Nelson	June 17, 1982	MACW show	Roanoke, Virginia	2	66
48	Ricky Steamboat (5) and Jay Youngblood (3)	August 22, 1982	MACW show	Toronto	1	202
—	Vacated	March 12, 1983	—	—	—	—	Upon winning the NWA World Tag Team Championship.
49	One Man Gang and Kelly Kiniski	May 23, 1983	MACW show	Greenville, South Carolina	1	58	Defeat Mike Rotunda and Rufus R. Jones in tournament final.
50	Rufus R. Jones and Bugsy McGraw	July 20, 1983	MACW show	Emporia, Virginia	1	N/A
—	Vacated	August 2, 1983	—	—	—	—
51	Long Riders (Ron Bass and Black Bart)	August 25, 1984	MACW show	N/A	1	N/A

Not exactly a who's who of legend tag teams getting the MACW belts at the time, so Wahoo having some racist booking ideals could have played a role. One could also look at house shows where Iceman/Porkchop were on to see if their angles were drawing/getting over.
You can't argue workrate being an issue with Rufus, Ox, Bore-us Zhukov, etc getting the strap

Parsons never sniffed the majors again until the Superclash 3 stuff. Porkchop got a mid card tag push with Watts and did jobs for Vince.

 

[JHawk]

I'd argue Iceman was closer to the majors while he was in World Class than he was during the SuperClash stuff. People forget exactly how many markets that show got syndicated to. I get the SuperClash hype was on ESPN but that was still a time when a lot of people still didn't have cable, and even as a wrestling fan it was hard to find the AWA show at times

 

[BruiserBrody]

I'd argue Iceman was closer to the majors while he was in World Class than he was during the SuperClash stuff. People forget exactly how many markets that show got syndicated to. I get the SuperClash hype was on ESPN but that was still a time when a lot of people still didn't have cable, and even as a wrestling fan it was hard to find the AWA show at times

83-85 it's a toss up to argue who was in 4th place behind Vince, Crockett and Verne. Ole, Von Erich, Watts, etc.
GCW had the legendary TV slot.
Watts had his greatest drawing year in 84 but I'm not sure how far they reached.
WCCW got TV in the Twin Cities in 84 as the WON reported their tape "mysteriously" was wrecked before it could make air.

By 86 WCCW might have TV deals but the promotion was on it's ass.

 

[Valeyard]

Iceman was bigger before Wrestlemania than he ever was after.

 

[Fall of Epic]

A pretty good watch.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Luther & Leroy Dargon. Two tall, muscled up African-American identical twins. For reference, one of them was the guy a heel Flair--on the grounds of white privilege--refused to wrestle on TV (saying "From where I come from, we don't wrestle guys like that...we employ them"), prompting Cherokee tribesman Jack Brisco--certainly no fan of the white man--to charge the ring and take Flair on.

Dargon's were Tony Atlas friends from the late 70s. They got a brief run in JCP in 84 as "The Midnight Express" at the same time as Eaton and Condrey were headlining Mid South. Probably an in joke on Watts having the gall to push black talent or something.