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We need a Matty In The House appreciation thread.
 

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I was watching an interview with Francine where she said she dislocated her elbow while bumping for (I think) 911. It was so bad that Heyman refused to air it. I had never heard this before and how bad was it that Heyman balked on airing it!?! Poor Francine
 

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Francine was something else, and I don't think a single heteronormative man in that audience didn't have a crush on Beulah. Part of why I loved the Dreamer/Dudleys feud in '98 was how it built on the crowd's absolute love for Beulah.
 

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Seeing all the Beulah love reminds me of when I was dating my ex. She was actually a friend (as much as one could be on the internet in the early to mid aughts) of hers and was responsible for selling a lot of Beulah's stuff on eBay. She had outfits, boots, even autographed copies of the ECW video game strategy guide.
 

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I still think it's weird that ECW's peak in mainstream relevancy coincided with their dying days. WCW did too sort of but at least, they had a bit of a buffer period between "We're on top of the world!" and "Oh frig! We're dead!"
I still have the RVD, Taz, Sabu, Candido, and New Jack figures. They were so simple and dumb for what ECW was (imagine if they'd made a deal with McFarlane), but there was something pretty cool about the simple designs and builds.

You hit the nail on the head about why ECW closing hurt fans so much. They kept rising in popularity, but the TNN deal and OnDemand holding out on paying them just did them in all at once.
 

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I still think it's weird that ECW's peak in mainstream relevancy coincided with their dying days. WCW did too sort of but at least, they had a bit of a buffer period between "We're on top of the world!" and "Oh frig! We're dead!"
Riding that wrasslin' boom.

JCP peaked at Starrcade 86 and 13 months later were losing talent almost weekly due to the money running out.

AWA got on ESPN in the very end of Aug 85 and fell off a cliff in April 86.

Watts and the Dog sold out everywhere vs the Midnight Express in early 84 and were DOA in early 86 when they limped into a National push around March of 86.

Hogan and Andre drew 33 million eyeballs in Feb of 88 and 2 years later business was falling off steeply.
 

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Crockett is only other one I think went from biggest crowds ever to death knell in quite as fast of a time but I think ECW’s time between selling out and going out of business was even more compressed.


if Vince had know the business was going to poop the bed in short time and he would be able to buy his competitor for pennies on the dollar , I wonder if he would have bolstered ECW more? And not gotten sidetracked by the damn XFL.
 

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Crockett is only other one I think went from biggest crowds ever to death knell in quite as fast of a time but I think ECW’s time between selling out and going out of business was even more compressed.


if Vince had know the business was going to poop the bed in short time and he would be able to buy his competitor for pennies on the dollar , I wonder if he would have bolstered ECW more? And not gotten sidetracked by the damn XFL.
I think he was hell-bent on doing the XFL by that point so it wouldn't have mattered. If he knew he was going to obtain WCW, I still think Vince would have done what he did and gotten ECW's tape library/talent for dirt cheap. He, at heart, is also a businessman. I do think Vince would have tried to possibly spin ECW off at that time (maybe given them the Sunday Night Heat time slot on USA?) partly as a favor to Heyman if Heyman happened to sell ECW sooner/cheaper to Vince.

The brand/marketability of ECW would have added eyeballs to WWE's product, it was already a built-in time slot and not too dissimilar from the "Attitude Era" product so no worrying as much about advertisers, and it would have further hampered WCW's image.
 

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More authority figures should be like Todd Gordon.
 

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Alternate take on Vince buying ECW: do so under a shell company where Vince is part of the board, but fill the rest with an assortment of investors. Immediately ink a deal that allows the WWF to utilize the film library and make a concrete talent exchange deal, pay off Herman's debt, use the Vince relationship to get InDemand PPV to pay the money owed, and use some pull to get them a new TV deal.

This creates a feeder system that doubles as "competition."
 

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Looks like the entrance ramp wasn't the only thing he smashed through that night.

Looks like Bigelow wasn't the only thing that was choked out that night.

Looks like the world wasn't the only thing Taz said "fuck" to that night.

Looks like this joke wasn't even worth making in the first place.
 

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Anyone within ten feet of Tom Brady in the last ten years deserves a caning.

Rude in ECW is bittersweet. He was the perfect color guy to play off Styles though and his "Wouldn't be great if they [extended bleep]" during that catfight in Dreamer/Raven and Styles' thrown off "...oh my god" is the best commentary moment in ECW history.
 

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Rude in ECW was awesome for all the right AND wrong reasons. His wearing a mask to not interfere with contract issues while still just being himself was a stroke of sophomoric genius.

And the first ECW footage I ever saw was an episode of Hardcore TV in the summer of 1997 that showed a clip of him slamming Francine into the side of a cage.
 

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Him not able to work hurts it so bad. That said even though he wouldn't take most of his offense he'd have been the ultimate foil for Taz in every way.
 

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I say it all the time: Balls Mahoney was super underrated as a worker. That match is usually seen as a weak replacement for the promoted RVD/Johnny Smith bout, but Balls hauled ass and looked damn impressive.
 
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