TSM goes Step by Step to the Full House of Family Matters

[Psycho Penguin]

Oh yeah and I remember seeing Ben Savage on an episode of one of those crime shows, I marked out a little.

 

[EdwardKnoxII]

Was I the only one that kept thinking of Rider Strong's character as Shawn in Cabin Fever and kept wondering why he was on a trip with these people and not Cory and Topanga?

 

[Psycho Penguin]

I do that all the time with characters I am familiar with from a show.. I still always think of Bradley Cooper as Sidney's dorky friend from Alias.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Damn. That means I missed the honeymoon episode with Topanga parading around in some tame, TGIF-approved lingerie.

Don't worry, Matt. That episode is actually banned from syndication.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

Damn. That means I missed the honeymoon episode with Topanga parading around in some tame, TGIF-approved lingerie.

Don't worry, Matt. That episode is actually banned from syndication.

It was on ABC Family 2 weeks ago. You're probably thinking of the prom episode, which was banned from being shown on The Disney Channel, but was shown in syndication.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

Boy Meets World has fun with its insane continuity errors, gotta give it that much at least.

The show was pretty much retooled in the 2nd season. Minkus disappeared and was never mentioned again until the episode where Cory, Shawn and Topanga graduated high school. The black kid and the other white kid who hung out with Cory and Shawn disappeared too, but unlike Minkus, they were never mentioned ever again for the rest of the show's run. We were now supposed to believe that Shawn and Cory were the only friends the both of them had ever had, despite seeing otherwise. Topanga was changed from a hippie child to someone who had been friends with Cory since they were babies, even though in the 1st season, Cory and Shawn acted like they were disgusted by her (although, this was explained later on that that was because Eric had told Cory that girls had cooties, and thus, he couldn't be friends with them). Topanga also became an intelligent bookworm out of nowhere too.

 

[BUTT]

Vitamin X went to middle school with Topanga and she called him a fag.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Don't forget that The Matthews had a sister they completely forgot for a solid three seasons. Just like Family Matters.

Actually, Family Matters was the worst when it came to that shit. They randomly got rid of the one that became a porn star, Richie, the Grandma, Aunt Rachel, switched Harriets for no good reason for the last half season.

 

[Psycho Penguin]

Boy Meets World has fun with its insane continuity errors, gotta give it that much at least.

The show was pretty much retooled in the 2nd season. Minkus disappeared and was never mentioned again until the episode where Cory, Shawn and Topanga graduated high school. The black kid and the other white kid who hung out with Cory and Shawn disappeared too, but unlike Minkus, they were never mentioned ever again for the rest of the show's run. We were now supposed to believe that Shawn and Cory were the only friends the both of them had ever had, despite seeing otherwise. Topanga was changed from a hippie child to someone who had been friends with Cory since they were babies, even though in the 1st season, Cory and Shawn acted like they were disgusted by her (although, this was explained later on that that was because Eric had told Cory that girls had cooties, and thus, he couldn't be friends with them). Topanga also became an intelligent bookworm out of nowhere too.

Well she was always intelligent but I agree on the rest.. I guess in order to keep up with their fans who were getting older, they had to change the characters also. I assume the characters were much younger than the actors were due to the time shift in various seasons.

Don't forget that The Matthews had a sister they completely forgot for a solid three seasons. Just like Family Matters.

Actually, Family Matters was the worst when it came to that shit. They randomly got rid of the one that became a porn star, Richie, the Grandma, Aunt Rachel, switched Harriets for no good reason for the last half season.

It was more like one season but she came back looking three years older (because she was a new actress). Good times. I firmly believe if the show went another season, they'd forget the other younger brother soon enough.

 

[EdwardKnoxII]

Don't forget that The Matthews had a sister they completely forgot for a solid three seasons. Just like Family Matters.

Actually, Family Matters was the worst when it came to that shit. They randomly got rid of the one that became a porn star, Richie, the Grandma, Aunt Rachel, switched Harriets for no good reason for the last half season.

Per Wiki:

204 11 "Deck the Malls" Gary Menteer Stephen Langford December 19, 1997 466461

During the Christmas season, the Winslows and Urkel get jobs at the mall. Steve becomes a gift-wrapper with Myra, Carl becomes a department store Santa Claus and Laura becomes an elf. Meanwhile, Richie finds out that his mom, Rachel, is unable to come home for the holidays - or is she?

Note: This episode marks the final appearances of Jo Marie Payton, Telma Hopkins, Bryton McClure and Rosetta LeNoire. Payton's role of Harriette Winslow was assumed by Judyann Elder thereafter, while the characters of Rachel Crawford (Hopkins), Richie Crawford (McClure) and Mother Winslow (LeNoire) were quietly dropped. This is the first time where all of the cast members (save for Jaimee Foxworth) are together.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I was watching a Michael Jackson DVD from the Dangerous era and they had a clip of him accepting a lifetime achievement award and Richie accompanied him to the stage. Needless to say I was baffled that Michael Jackson would be mingling with a child star.

Spoiler

Though to stick a craw in the "Michael Jackson rapes little boys" crowd, some girl child star I didn't recognize accompanied him too.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

Actually, Family Matters was the worst when it came to that shit. They randomly got rid of the one that became a porn star, Richie, the Grandma, Aunt Rachel, switched Harriets for no good reason for the last half season.

The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air had the actress who played Aunt Vivian get replaced with someone else towards the end of the series and had Little Nicky go from a baby to a five-year-old in the span of one season for no apparent reason! All of this was even referenced in one episode in one of the show's finest moments.

 

[Psycho Penguin]

I'm guaranteeing there is a TV tropes page devoted to this kind of thing.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Family Matters: Steevil & Carlsbad dancing.

End the thread now. Can't get any better (?) than this.

 

[DrVenkman PhD]

I'm guaranteeing there is a TV tropes page devoted to this kind of thing.

Chuck Cunningham Syndrome for disappearing cast members, The Other Darrin for cast member changes, and SORAS (Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome) for the Richie / Nikki / Kotsopolis twins of the world.

 

[wnyxmcneal]

They changed Harriets because Harriet 1 quit.

Also, they did explain Rachel- she showed up in the final XMas episode

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Didn't Harriet 1 quit because she was sick of all of the "wacky Urkel" storylines? Not a misguided protest but kind of odd timing considering the series was on its deathbed. Hariet 2 only did 7 or 8 episodes...and she looked nothing like Harriet 1 other then the fact they were both middle aged black women.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

Didn't Harriet 1 quit because she was sick of all of the "wacky Urkel" storylines? Not a misguided protest but kind of odd timing considering the series was on its deathbed. Hariet 2 only did 7 or 8 episodes...and she looked nothing like Harriet 1 other then the fact they were both middle aged black women.

Yeah. They might as well have had Urkel play Harriet too. Not like he would have looked anything less like her.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

You know that idea had to have came up in the Family Matters writers room.

 

[EdwardKnoxII]

http://www.anshawn.com/urkelnet/faq/cast.html

Why did Harriette change on CBS?
In the final season of Family Matters, JoMarie Payton made a statement that she felt she was being "creatively stifled" by her role and decided to leave the show in December 1997. The series did not want to do a death or divorce episode to explain Harriette's disappearance, so instead the series kept the character but with a different actress, Judyann Elder. There have been reports of JoMarie's displeasure of the series revolving more around Urkel and less around the Winslow family, for which the series was created for. She also tried to submit ideas for episodes with more Winslow family-themed plots, and they were turned down. Now, JoMarie is practicing more on her acting, singing, and dancing. So far, she has released a jazz album and has made guest appearances on other TV shows, including a recurring character on NBC's Will And Grace

 

[HaVoC]

I forgot the actress who played Myra (Urkel's girlfriend) died. I actually thought that was an urban legend for the longest time.

 

[CanadianGuitarist]

Full House Divided

Steve was the voice of Aladdin.

Fucking EVERYBODY knows that.

Edit: Also, this thread has given me some awfully hearty laughs.

 

[Czech]

Oh! I almost forgot that Eric was the voice of Ron Stoppable on Kim Possible (also starring Christy Carlson Romano (a.k.a. the kid from Even Stevens who isn't Shia LaBeouf) and the voice of Bart Simpson as Rufus the naked mole rat!), which was a huge hit on The Disney Channel, so that counts for something, I guess. He also got to bang Jennifer Love Hewitt for a short time too.

Reassuring to know SKBF is still in fine form.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

You know that idea had to have came up in the Family Matters writers room.

Jaleel White did play Cousin Myrtle, who was obsessed with Eddie, so it's not like he was against dressing up like a woman.

Watching the final episodes, I kept waiting for someone to say, "Who are you? Where's the real Harriet!?"

There was an episode where it was revealed that Harriet's engagement ring was meant for another woman. New Harriet going on about how she had been living a lie for over 20 years made me laugh so much.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

You know what I miss most about these type of shows? The cheesy opening credits. You can't tell me that Community or any modern popular sitcom wouldn't be 0.01% better if they showed opened with the cast turning around and giving a cheesy smile to the camera while they all did various recreational activies around whatever city the show took place in.

Something like this;
Community Theme Song (Friends Style!)

Seinfeld really killed those types of openings.

 

[Psycho Penguin]

ALF Intro

Never forget.

 

[MFer]

I forgot the actress who played Myra (Urkel's girlfriend) died. I actually thought that was an urban legend for the longest time.

Yeah, I didn't know she died until like 3 years after it happened. She was also kinda old too, about 8 years older than her peers (e.g., Steve, Laura, Eddie).

You know what this thread needs though? RODNEY (although idk why the vid says the actor is Zac Efron, unless it's supposed to be a joke).

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIni79TiL4[/flash]

 

[Richard]

Boy Meets World has fun with its insane continuity errors, gotta give it that much at least.

The show was pretty much retooled in the 2nd season. Minkus disappeared and was never mentioned again until the episode where Cory, Shawn and Topanga graduated high school. The black kid and the other white kid who hung out with Cory and Shawn disappeared too, but unlike Minkus, they were never mentioned ever again for the rest of the show's run. We were now supposed to believe that Shawn and Cory were the only friends the both of them had ever had, despite seeing otherwise. Topanga was changed from a hippie child to someone who had been friends with Cory since they were babies, even though in the 1st season, Cory and Shawn acted like they were disgusted by her (although, this was explained later on that that was because Eric had told Cory that girls had cooties, and thus, he couldn't be friends with them). Topanga also became an intelligent bookworm out of nowhere too.

Topanga had an older sister in one first season episode. And Topanga had new parents each time they appeared.

 

[Ed Wood Caulfield]

Topanga had an older sister in one first season episode. And Topanga had new parents each time they appeared.

Yeah. In every single appearance, they were played by different actors. They couldn't even keep the same actors for a 2-parter! Seriously, in part 1 of the episode where Topanga's parents get a divorce, Michael McKean plays Topanga's dad. In part 2, Topanga's dad is played by a completely different actor. Annette O'Toole plays Topanga's mother in part 1, but Marcia Cross plays her in part 2.

 

[Jebus]

I love how Boy Meets World is so far the only sitcom in the history of television that has had professional wrestlers guest star more than once. Usually, wrestling is a punchline to how dumb a character is, but on Boy Meets World, the wrestlers were characters themselves, and wrestling itself wasn't treated as a *total* joke.

Yep.. they had an entire episode devoted to Cory trying to make it to a wrestling match at MSG (despite living in Philly...)_ which pisses off Topanga cos she has a prom dance or something.

I think you're thinking of the one where Cory along with Shawn & Ethan Suplee are trying to be in Vader's corner for his match with Jake Roberts at the Spectrum while also switching to go to Topanga's Sweet 16 party.

Yup. Vader vs. Roberts took place at the Spectrum.
But MSG was indeed mentioned...the winner of the match got a WWF Championship shot vs. Shawn Michaels at the Garden.

Topanga had an older sister in one first season episode. And Topanga had new parents each time they appeared.

Yeah. In every single appearance, they were played by different actors. They couldn't even keep the same actors for a 2-parter! Seriously, in part 1 of the episode where Topanga's parents get a divorce, Michael McKean plays Topanga's dad. In part 2, Topanga's dad is played by a completely different actor. Annette O'Toole plays Topanga's mother in part 1, but Marcia Cross plays her in part 2.

Not true. Peter Tork from The Monkees played Topanga's dad more than once.