Was Marilyn Manson the greatest artist of our times?

[BUTT]

"Heart-Shaped Glasses" is a good song but the rest of the album is kind of a slog. The sound is somewhat interesting as it's the only Manson album that can't be remotely classified as metal and hinted at a new alt-rock direction that he abandoned when he dumped Tim Skold and got back with Twiggy. But most of the songs are boring and unmemorable. The High End of Low has a few good tracks but goes on way too long.

 

[BUTT]

His new album came out today and it's not bad. Closer to The Pale Emperor than Heaven Upside Down. It's really not very country-ish but has very little in the way of the industrial touches that have defined much of his work. More piano than any other Manson album. If you're not tired of his mopey ballads check it out. I doubt I'll listen to the album in full again, however.

 

[SFH]

His music played an important role in a lot of peoples' developments. He never was my specific thing but a LOT of my peers really connected with him. Hell in my 30s I have friends that still pick MM songs @ Karaoke* and sing with such intensity it's great to see them become so absorbed by their favorite.

Not one single person from my high school committed any sort of horrible thing the Christians were screaming about, not that I believed any of the shit. Dude has his place. More power to him, he has his fan base, has his success, and gets to see the world.


*once a year a group of 15 of us rent out the karaoke room of a sushi place. For every $100 your group spends on food you get an hour in the room, up to 4 hours. We use up all four hours every time.

 

[snuffbox]

The only weird thing I ever saw at one of his shows was a too-exuberant fan burning the palm of his own hand with a cigarette lighter in tribute to Mr Manson.

 

[BUTT]

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Well, there it is. I’ve been expecting this for three years now, but it didn’t stop me from seeing him live with Zombie two summers ago, so I guess I’m part of the problem too. Does anyone have Manson in their 2021 death pool? I wouldn’t be shocked if he OD’s, accidentally or not.

 

[Brocklock]

That whole relationship seemed offputting from the beginning. Evan didn't seem happy anytime I saw them together and there's the reason why. Definitely not a surprise that he's an abuser and yeah I could see him not making it the rest of the year.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

That whole relationship seemed offputting from the beginning. Evan didn't seem happy anytime I saw them together and there's the reason why. Definitely not a surprise that he's an abuser and yeah I could see him not making it the rest of the year.

This for me too. Always felt like an odd pairing and it wouldn't surprise me that he'd be an abuser with Rose McGowan prior to ERW either.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah, I mean even Rolling Stone in the late '00s really seemed to dance around the "Gee! This relationship seems really weird and unhealthy." so this is probably the least surprising abuse revelation ever.

 

[Fall of Epic]

She was barely 18 when they got together. No shock he was a shithead towards her.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Marilyn Manson dropped from his label, loses Creepshow episode amid abuse claims

After multiple women came forward with a myriad of abuse claims, label Loma Vista has ceased all promotion of the musician and Shudder will no longer air his Creepshow episode.

news.avclub.com

it's multiple women now. he got dropped from his label.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Reading these stories, he sounds like a Harvey Weinstein. He belongs in prison.

 

[Valeyard]

We gotta be inching towards the groupie tape coming out. Then he's straight dead.

 

[Fall of Epic]

California State Senator Asks FBI to Investigate Marilyn Manson

California State Senator Susan Rubio requests that the FBI investigate yesterday's allegations against Marilyn Manson.

www.metalsucks.net

This is going to end very, very poorly.

 

[Valeyard]

Well it IS a long, hard road to hell so

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Well it IS a long, hard road to hell so

...I mean, the lyric is "out of," but...yeah

 

[Valeyard]

I stand by every misquote I make in this folder.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Entertainment Tonight

Entertainment Tonight (ET) is the authoritative source on entertainment and celebrity news with unprecedented access to Hollywood's biggest stars, upcoming movies, and TV shows.

etcanada.com

 

[Mickey Massuco]

LASD investigating Marilyn Manson abuse allegations after multiple women speak out

The LASD is looking into the Marilyn Manson abuse allegations after various women accused him of emotional, sexual and physical abuse.

www.google.ca

I don’t think he’s the kind of guy to go to prison quietly. If he’s arrested they better put him in custody. He seems like the kind of guy who thinks going out Columbine style would fulfill the title of this thread and help his art come full circle.

but with the amount of accusers and lengthy timeline, he will be able to get convicted of something for sure. They better just get him locked up before he takes out a bunch of people.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Wtf

 

[Incandenza]

Always figured he'd have a come-to-Jesus moment, but this is not the path I would have predicted.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Man, Kreese is going to be so upset listening to the inevitable Kanye produced Manson album.

 

[BUTT]

That sounds sick tbh

 

[BUTT]

Really a Kanye-produced rock/metal album is more interesting than any other hypothetical record in the genre.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

...y'all bought into the "antichrist" gimmick, eh?

 

[BUTT]

Only a true disciple of Satan would have his ribs removed so he could suck his own dick. That behavior is against God and nature imo

 

[AA484]

...y'all bought into the "antichrist" gimmick, eh?

I was in 6th grade, give me a break!

 

[Incandenza]

I just assumed he'd go full Alice Cooper Republican at some point. Going full Christian and hanging out with Kanye and Bieber in a cynical attempt at deflecting all the accusations by several women of serial physical and emotional abuse? No, I didn't see that coming, even though it fits the current cultural climate.

 

[BUTT]

I don't think he's trying to sincerely portray himself as a Christian convert. I just think he finds the whole thing funny and subversive, and I'm sure in some way he sees it as a repudiation of all his accusers. Besides it's not like he has any other showbiz gigs lined up.

 

[Gary]

Marilyn Manson: The Monster Hiding in Plain Sight

Marilyn Manson was a provocative media darling for decades. Offstage, exes allege a pattern of psychological and sexual abuse

www.rollingstone.com

a long read, but damn