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Yeah Bischoff has directly contradicted most of it in the past multiple times. Based on what Bischoff had paid other guys who jumped Bret probably did deserve what he got or close to it. Hindsight is the main reason he doesn't seem to have deserved it.
 

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You know I think this site needs a Patreon. It's just so weird that people will pay huge monthly fee to someone who entertains them.
 

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I tried listening to Schiavone's podcast, but he is bitter with a capital B and the comedy is cringeworthy. I love their idea of commentating over full PPVs though. Do any other podcasts do that who aren't hosted by jaded old fucks?

Maybe I'll give it another shot but it definitely didn't leave a good first impression.
 

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Prichard has done a couple watch alongs. Those are the only shows I haven’t really done because I listen to hem while I drive my long commute. I did their one on the first Survivor Series and I think they have done about three others.

I went from no podcasts at the end of last summer when I wanted to hear an Edge and Christian show interview that led me through E&C and all of Prichard, due to all the hype. Kinda have cooled down on my interest in that one these days as they are becoming the same.

I’ve fallen behind because I’ve been away on vacation past few weeks but I had listened to the first couple Bischoff when they first aired, as I think Conrad works hard, which then led me to a couple Schiavone. I never found him bitter in the ones I’ve listened to but again, I’ve picked around the watch along. I think I did try some of the early ones and heard him getting really creepy about Debra, so that was cool.
 

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After listening to Bischoff's podcasts, I find Conrad insufferable on Tony's. Too many inside jokes are thrown out there so they can sell t shirts.
 

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KingPK said:
I tried listening to Schiavone's podcast, but he is bitter with a capital B and the comedy is cringeworthy. I love their idea of commentating over full PPVs though. Do any other podcasts do that who aren't hosted by jaded old fucks?

Maybe I'll give it another shot but it definitely didn't leave a good first impression.

Not really talking over a PPV, but a couple buddies of mine have a podcast where they take a really shitty PPV, talk about it, then rebook it. One of my friends is a booker for Fully Loaded Wrestling, and he's really good a rebooking those shit shows. They just did December to Dismember from WWECW and they rebooked it to something that could have actually worked.
 

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KingPK said:
I tried listening to Schiavone's podcast, but he is bitter with a capital B and the comedy is cringeworthy. I love their idea of commentating over full PPVs though. Do any other podcasts do that who aren't hosted by jaded old fucks?

Maybe I'll give it another shot but it definitely didn't leave a good first impression.
I actually have one called Not Ready for Prime Time Wrestling where we do something similar. We rarely do full PPVs (my co-host has attention issues) and there's too much dead air particularly when we watch something we like, but we are positive when warranted (and jaded when we're not).

I'm actually a big fan of Tony's podcast and wish I could have gotten mine launched before they switched to the watch along format.
 

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I listened to more of the episode (it was the Slamboree '93 one) and it was better, but I much prefer them to talk more about the actual show than shilling stuff. I know they have to and there's only so much you can talk about barnburners like the Slamboree '93 card, but it was getting a bit much at points (save that shit for the end of the show). Plus, Tony has the crotchety old man "guys back then knew how to WORK, goddamnit!" attitude and that's a put off to me.
 

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My biggest issue with all of Conrad's podcasts is

Conrad: "It was reported in the Observer..."

Bruce/Tony/Eric: "Fuck Dave Meltzer!"

::bunch of fanboys hate tweet Meltzer because he was "wrong" about something that was proven right decades ago::
 

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And Meltzer can't help but respond so everyone ends up having to see that shit and be annoyed by it.
 

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So after listening to more, I've done a 360 (brother) on Schiavone's podcast. It's pretty good the 90% of the time they rag on how stupid WCW was and talk about that era which makes the 10% of "Fuck Meltzer/I'm old and cranky" much more palatable.
 

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Thrasher said:
https://www.patreon.com/whwmonday/memberships

You know I think this site needs a Patreon. It's just so weird that people will pay huge monthly fee to someone who entertains them.

Is it really that much weirder than how many people expect to be entertained for free?
 

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KingPK said:
So after listening to more, I've done a 360 (brother) on Schiavone's podcast. It's pretty good the 90% of the time they rag on how stupid WCW was and talk about that era which makes the 10% of "Fuck Meltzer/I'm old and cranky" much more palatable.

I hope this was a joke about something. I think you mean 180?
 

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https://youtu.be/nnWDdbXH3DM

I watched this video before posting and somehow had it in my head that Hogan once said "he did a 360 turn brother and went against me".

IT WAS A HORRIBLE JOKE, OK? STOP SHAMING ME!

In other news, I started listening to the Halloween Havoc '95 episode and I'm fully on board. "Call the hotline, 1-900-909-9900. Don't get your parent's permission because fuck them!" DGAF Tony Schiavone is kinda great.
 

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Haha. No problem. It just reminded me of Jason Kidd's interview when he joined the Nets and said his joining the team was going to turn them around 360 degrees.
 

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Because I listen to way too many fucking podcasts (though honestly I've unsubscribed from a bunch and a few update only once a month or so) I also started listening to Keep it 2000 because they're doing what I started doing (watching 2000 Nitro chronologically) but lasted MUCH longer than I did. Plus, they basically set it up as MST3K with Russo and Nash as the Mads and I appreciate that.
 

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JHawk said:
My biggest issue with all of Conrad's podcasts is

Conrad: "It was reported in the Observer..."

Bruce/Tony/Eric: "Fuck Dave Meltzer!"

::bunch of fanboys hate tweet Meltzer because he was "wrong" about something that was proven right decades ago::

I tried to give 83 Weeks another honest listen, but I can't get past the constant Meltzer/Alvarez/Anyone Critical of Eric bashing. If you listen to him he was a damn angel and everything that happened at WCW was out of his control and Dave just made stuff up and lied.

I know there's plenty of things you can criticize Dave on but I do not believe for one second he makes things up or lies. I do believe that Eric is completely full of shit though because some of his statements on this show contradict his book and things he's said in the past.

Also they take some of what Dave said (like Mabel being the third man) completely out of context and all the fanboys rush to hate tweet without actually seeing the context in the Observer. I remember seeing someone tweet the actual passage from the Observer which completely contradicted what Eric said and people were still misreading it, ignoring it and propping Eric up. It was mind boggling.


I need to find some podcasts outside of wrestling. Something more history oriented. Video game stuff too that isn't filled with nerd rage incels.
 

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My favorite is still Edge and Christian. It is goofy most of the time but I just enjoy it. I usually listen when I drive and as I had a few things going on where I wasn't really driving for the past month, I fell way behind but I've been steamrolling through theirs. They keep it pretty short as I think they roughly are close to an hour or hour and a half with the longest one I can recall being two hours.

So in the past week I caught up on the Cody episode, Tommy Blancha, a quick Q&A show, mostly through the EC3 show from two weeks ago which is super fun (because I am an EC3 mark) and then last week which I should start tomorrow was a Brood reunion with Gangrel. They usually are candid enough you get some fun, expected stories.

I feel like having this big gap the shows Conrad produces are going to feel like a chore to get back on track because I feel like the success of Something to Wrestle has made Bruce more insufferable lately. The early episodes he was too defensive and then there was a really good stretch where he was open and still felt as humble as he could be, even though he could be a dumbass on a lot of things. Basically since WWE let him come back this year for RAW 25 I feel like he has gotten less likable.

Bischoff is Bischoff but I only listened to like the first two before I got sidetracked but I know some of the episodes they have make me curious, even to hear his bullshit side of the story. I guess some of his comments pissed Bret off but then Bret went on a bunch of other rants right after making him sound as nuts as he usually sounds too.
 

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Baby Shoes said:
My favorite is still Edge and Christian. It is goofy most of the time but I just enjoy it. I usually listen when I drive and as I had a few things going on where I wasn't really driving for the past month, I fell way behind but I've been steamrolling through theirs. They keep it pretty short as I think they roughly are close to an hour or hour and a half with the longest one I can recall being two hours.

So in the past week I caught up on the Cody episode, Tommy Blancha, a quick Q&A show, mostly through the EC3 show from two weeks ago which is super fun (because I am an EC3 mark) and then last week which I should start tomorrow was a Brood reunion with Gangrel. They usually are candid enough you get some fun, expected stories.

I feel like having this big gap the shows Conrad produces are going to feel like a chore to get back on track because I feel like the success of Something to Wrestle has made Bruce more insufferable lately. The early episodes he was too defensive and then there was a really good stretch where he was open and still felt as humble as he could be, even though he could be a dumbass on a lot of things. Basically since WWE let him come back this year for RAW 25 I feel like he has gotten less likable.

Bischoff is Bischoff but I only listened to like the first two before I got sidetracked but I know some of the episodes they have make me curious, even to hear his bullshit side of the story. I guess some of his comments pissed Bret off but then Bret went on a bunch of other rants right after making him sound as nuts as he usually sounds too.

I love Edge & Christian's. The problem is I listen to podcasts in my car because I do a lot of driving for my job and Christian is so soft spoken that I sometimes can't hear him over the road noise. The guy needs to learn to project his voice more. I haven't listened to Bischoff's but I had to stop listening to Prichard's. He became insufferable. I think Jim Cornette put it best when he called Prichard's podcast "the sports entertainment of podcasts" because of all the bullshitting Bruce does.

I see a lot of people mentioning wrestler hosted podcasts, but I recently started listening to PPV review podcasts and I love The New Generation Project and Attitude Era podcasts. New Gen especially has great hosts. Their chemistry and humor is perfect. They're British, so sometimes you have to put up with cricket talk at the start, but once they get into the actual show it's great.
 

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Baby Shoes said:
My favorite is still Edge and Christian. It is goofy most of the time but I just enjoy it. I usually listen when I drive and as I had a few things going on where I wasn't really driving for the past month, I fell way behind but I've been steamrolling through theirs. They keep it pretty short as I think they roughly are close to an hour or hour and a half with the longest one I can recall being two hours.

So in the past week I caught up on the Cody episode, Tommy Blancha, a quick Q&A show, mostly through the EC3 show from two weeks ago which is super fun (because I am an EC3 mark) and then last week which I should start tomorrow was a Brood reunion with Gangrel. They usually are candid enough you get some fun, expected stories.

I feel like having this big gap the shows Conrad produces are going to feel like a chore to get back on track because I feel like the success of Something to Wrestle has made Bruce more insufferable lately. The early episodes he was too defensive and then there was a really good stretch where he was open and still felt as humble as he could be, even though he could be a dumbass on a lot of things. Basically since WWE let him come back this year for RAW 25 I feel like he has gotten less likable.

Bischoff is Bischoff but I only listened to like the first two before I got sidetracked but I know some of the episodes they have make me curious, even to hear his bullshit side of the story. I guess some of his comments pissed Bret off but then Bret went on a bunch of other rants right after making him sound as nuts as he usually sounds too.

That's an interesting take and one I had not really thought of in regards to Bruce. I think with Bruce it's the combination of being so deep in the inner circle and now being back on the payroll that he is more insufferable. I don't blame him for that and I hate the "sell out" comments he and Conrad receive. That said his over the top Meltzer bashing does get tiring. Anybody who left the company on bad terms is all on them.

I like the Bischoff podcasts, although I do worry now that since Hogan was on the last podcast that Conrad won't hold Bischoff's feet to the fire enough in regards to Hogan. While I agree with both EB's and Tony's stance that Hogan saved WCW from a quicker death, I think neither will be honest about how Hogan was a detriment to the company.

If you do listen to 83 Weeks, listen to Talk is Jericho where he does a 2 hour podcast talking about Bischoff's thoughts with Conrad.
 

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If you do listen to 83 Weeks, listen to Talk is Jericho where he does a 2 hour podcast talking about Bischoff's thoughts with Conrad.

I did that. Jericho talks about how disorganized WCW was. I didn't know he was responsible for all that stuff in DC when he was feuding with Malenko. I also didn't know the Goldberg was scheduled time off the same time Jericho was supposed to face him on PPV.

I used to listen to TIJ a long time ago and I ended up listening to his episode about Benoit. I was surprised that Jericho and Dave got events and dates wrong. I figured both would do their homework. He talked about when the Radicalz left and it's funny that Saturn ends up getting the Benoit treatment cause he isn't mentioned in the group. All those guys alledgely re upped with WCW before they left because they thought if they were going to be miserable they should get paid. This doesn't make sense because they could have talked to Vince sooner and jumped earlier. Jericho mused about how they were pigeoned holed as midcarders. I think Benoit had few runs in the main event as Horseman so they all weren't midcarders. Also, Jericho thought Hogan should have worked with Benoit.


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I am listening to the Ultimo Dragon episode of Talk is Jericho.

It is weird how effective Jericho's attempt to speak Japanese accented broken English is on episodes of his show where he speaks to Japanese wrestlers. He did same thing on Nakamura episode.
 

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Been watching the podcasts? on WWE Network of Prichard and Conrad and they're mostly okay although I'm not a fan of Conrad at all. He's way too scripted, just adhering right to the questions he wants to ask, rather than being more freelance and letting Prichard branch off comments/remarks that he makes and maybe pursuing different tracks.
 

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Thrasher said:
https://www.patreon.com/whwmonday/memberships

You know I think this site needs a Patreon. It's just so weird that people will pay huge monthly fee to someone who entertains them.

Is it really that much weirder than how many people expect to be entertained for free?

No but there are ads on the podcast and they sell shirts.

Why not get another mortgage? http://www.savewithbruce.com/
I can't believe this is real and people sign up with them.
 

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Thrasher said:
https://www.patreon.com/whwmonday/memberships

You know I think this site needs a Patreon. It's just so weird that people will pay huge monthly fee to someone who entertains them.

Is it really that much weirder than how many people expect to be entertained for free?

I chip in on patreon for a couple different show. None of the wrestling ones though. Holy balls, the something to wrestle patreon tiers start at $9. Far and away the highest starting level I’ve seen on a patreon. We Hate Movies is my favorite podcast and their tiers end at $8 for all the extra content they offer.
 

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That's actually what I object to the most is that the tiers are too high for the content produced but I guess if a bunch of marks want to spend money then fine.

I was thinking the other day, isn't Bischoff above doing a podcast? He produces shows and he ran a successful promotion for 1.75 years. I couldn't see Vince or Verne doing a podcast on a weekly basis.
 

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I'm finally getting with the 90s. I listen to 2 podcasts now. Been following Sean Mooney's since last year (several episodes behind but oh well). And now I'm listening to the 'Jobbing With Josh' podcast linked below. He covers the national scene generally and the Upper Midwest indies specifically.

https://prowrestlingiowa.podbean.com/e/jobbing-with-josh-episode-13/
 

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I've kinda fell off Schiavone's podcast because I've become one of those people who think Conrad is a fucking dingus. Plus, the whole "Rifftrax a PPV" format can be hit or miss with them struggling to fill the time and going off on uninteresting tangents.
 

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I stopped listening to Schiavone's podcast months ago. I can't stand Conrad and his sense of humor is awful. It feels like a shitty shock jock radio show with all the trying to hard to be edgy jokes and the MST 3000/Rifftrax format doesn't work for three hour ppvs.
 
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