Chat! culturecrossfire.slack.com

WWF: Hulkamania era (1984-`1992)

snuffbox

Integral Poster
Messages
10,005
Reaction score
1,390
Points
253
Great American Bash 1988 was in, well, the summer of 1988.
 

Tino Standard

Integral Poster
Messages
2,697
Reaction score
867
Points
188
Wait, so the ref counted the pin? It wasn’t like Houston waited too long to kick out. His shoulder was clearly up at 2. What a mess.
 

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
You're talking like wrestling is fake or something.
 

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
I don't know if I'd give John Nord money to begin with.
 

BruiserBrody

Integral Poster
Messages
31,274
Reaction score
3,275
Points
293
Location
[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6

Hard to wrap my head around Uncle Elmer being in the Navy.
 

alkeiper

Welcoming our new insect overlords
Messages
10,803
Reaction score
2,255
Points
253
Location
Northeast Pennsylvania
You see a lot of super heavyweights become stars at a relatively young age. Elmer was on national tv in his late 40s. Like Big Daddy his greatest popularity came a long way away from his physical prime.
 

strummer

Integral Poster
Messages
8,412
Reaction score
998
Points
218
WM 2 ages

Elmer was 48

Dory was 45

George Steele was a week away from 49

Moolah was 62!
 

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
Does a good Moolah match exist? I remember an adequate one with Debbie Combs but I haven't seen it in over 20 years.
 

geniusMoment

Trailer Park Supervisor
Messages
4,583
Reaction score
1,121
Points
188
I kinda wanna just go back in time and just relieve about 85-99 over and over again...

 

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
The only wrestling I can really watch with real joy is stuff from childhood. Other stuff is fine, of course, but reliving things is so much more fun for me now, I think mainly since I'm always discovering or rediscovering stuff I didn't remember or didn't know about.
 

snuffbox

Integral Poster
Messages
10,005
Reaction score
1,390
Points
253
Ventura, Monsoon, and Heenan are still funny. Okerlund as pitchman still holds up.
 

Mickey Massuco

wipeoff
Messages
27,160
Reaction score
1,665
Points
293
Location
Elvis Country
The only wrestling I can really watch with real joy is stuff from childhood. Other stuff is fine, of course, but reliving things is so much more fun for me now, I think mainly since I'm always discovering or rediscovering stuff I didn't remember or didn't know about.
This is the way I feel about it too. I think I’m too old to connect for wrestlers now, but it’s still fun to watch good matches and promos from the modern day. I can still tell though whether something is genuinely better from the past or if it’s just nostalgia speaking. For one, from what I see in a lot of modern wrestling other than the GOATs is a lack of psychology.
 

Brocklock

Integral Poster
Messages
9,545
Reaction score
1,938
Points
228
Location
Illinois
Does a good Moolah match exist? I remember an adequate one with Debbie Combs but I haven't seen it in over 20 years.
The only answer is to cheat and say The Women's tag at Survivor Series 87 that she was in for ninety seconds. Honestly, I've never enjoyed a Moolah match. Hell, I enjoy Uncle Elmer vs Adrian Adonis at Wrestlemania II more than Moolah's work.
 

Brocklock

Integral Poster
Messages
9,545
Reaction score
1,938
Points
228
Location
Illinois
I think the year I stopped getting nostalgic for WWE wrestling was 2006, which was also when I turned 18. 2006 was pretty brutal on the Raw and ECW sides. Smackdown was solid all year, but still had some bad stuff. Then Benoit happened in 2007 and by 2014 I stopped regularly watching WWE.

But, from around 89-98 is my absolute sweet spot for WWF. There's lots of stuff that I love in 99-05 though and I remember actually crying during the end of Wrestlemania 20 and Eddie winning the title.
 

alkeiper

Welcoming our new insect overlords
Messages
10,803
Reaction score
2,255
Points
253
Location
Northeast Pennsylvania
The only answer is to cheat and say The Women's tag at Survivor Series 87 that she was in for ninety seconds. Honestly, I've never enjoyed a Moolah match. Hell, I enjoy Uncle Elmer vs Adrian Adonis at Wrestlemania II more than Moolah's work.
I feel like Moolah in her prime was probably a good wrestler. She was born in '23. The earliest match I've seen on tape from her was 1969 when she was already 45 years old and her most famous matches occurred when she was in her '60s. I get the feeling that if she was competent in her late years and good enough to get a world championship in her '30s there was probably some real ability.
 

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
I think the year I stopped getting nostalgic for WWE wrestling was 2006, which was also when I turned 18. 2006 was pretty brutal on the Raw and ECW sides. Smackdown was solid all year, but still had some bad stuff. Then Benoit happened in 2007 and by 2014 I stopped regularly watching WWE.

But, from around 89-98 is my absolute sweet spot for WWF. There's lots of stuff that I love in 99-05 though and I remember actually crying during the end of Wrestlemania 20 and Eddie winning the title.
2007 was the end of being able to invest in anyone on a real level. Benoit was a lot of things but for i think most of us was almost a personal betrayal. End of an innocence we weren't aware of. In a lot of ways it hasn't recovered for me.

Last I really was into them was 2005 with the rise of Batista and One Night Stand, but after Eddie it wasn't the same. But truthfully I don't know if I've felt the same since 2002 honestly.

But my sweet spot is 87-98. Anything else is a happy bonus.
 

strummer

Integral Poster
Messages
8,412
Reaction score
998
Points
218
1990 was my last year of "innocence" as a kid. The night before the show we saw ".Three Men and a Little Lady". Thanksgiving was Survivor Series and we saw Home Alone the next day and then came back to watch Warrior v DiBiase on the NBC special.

The Giants were on their way to a Superbowl and it was my last year in elementary school and it was the best school year for me since 3rd grade or so.

Then next year was junior high and it was a nightmare for two years.

The period from Survivor Series to Mania 7 is etched in my brain with the gulf war going on, Giants playoff run, my Grandfather having open heart surgery and nearing the end of elementary school.

And also was the last year I was close with my cousins. We were basically inseparable for years but after 91 we were never really close again. They completely stopped watching wrestling and moved on to other things while I still watched
 
Last edited:

Valeyard

Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Messages
15,709
Reaction score
7,386
Points
253
My end of innocence era has to be Summerlam to early December 1997. Hart Foundation lost its luster after Bret/Austin was dropped, then Shawn became the top heel despite not having the belt, Austin goes down, Pillman dies (and the Hart Foundation is 100% done being a major deal), Bret leaves. In other news, my grandfather died, my brother moved, I was having a hideous time at school, bought Parasite Eve, and was basically super fucking miserable. Important times.


Hercules was an upgrade and Nord deserves WAY more credit for carrying that match.
 

BruiserBrody

Integral Poster
Messages
31,274
Reaction score
3,275
Points
293
Location
[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
Hercules was an upgrade and Nord deserves WAY more credit for carrying that match.
Seeing that picture again yesterday made me wish Watts had been able to bring Nord into WCW during his run.

They could have even reunited Nord and Jake the Snake. Nord and Konga as the Barbarians vs the Steiners....
*unzips pants*
 

snuffbox

Integral Poster
Messages
10,005
Reaction score
1,390
Points
253
As long as he didn't book another 30 minute draw featuring 20 minutes of crab holds.
 

BruiserBrody

Integral Poster
Messages
31,274
Reaction score
3,275
Points
293
Location
[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6


I was 4 1/3 years old when I saw this. One of the few angles I can actually remember watching as a puppy.

I have vague memories of HB Jim, Lauper, Hogan vs Piper etc, but this one stuck with me.
Mama Brody told me King Kong Bundy's blade job at WM 2 was catsup.

I actually don't remember the Hogan/Andre split in real time, but I can recall breaking the Mania match down with my neighbors at a wedding around WM 3.

Off hand, the next vivid memory I have is when Andre choked Hogan out on SNME, and the Islanders being dog nappers. (Ope. never mind, it would be Honky and the Harts attacking Savage with Hogan making the save)
 

BruiserBrody

Integral Poster
Messages
31,274
Reaction score
3,275
Points
293
Location
[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
Four-year-old Brody holding court and breaking down the Savage-Steamboat feud during a wedding sounds awesome.
This may have been the same wedding where I remember vibing hard to "Walk Like an Egyptian" while doing the Egyptian dance moves and also possibly the wedding my 18 year old brother climbed on the bar and did the Tequila dance, Pee-Wee Herman style.

Ummm to keep this on topic...

WWF @ Long Island, NY – Nassau Coliseum – January 11, 1991
Roddy Piper & Kerry Von Erich defeated WWF IC Champion Mr. Perfect & Virgil (sub. for Ted Dibiase) when Von Erich pinned Perfect; Perfect and Virgil argued after the match with Virgil eventually nailing Perfect

Matches you didn't know existed.
 
Top