WWF New Generation Thread III

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561726603855536130

 

[Valeyard]

I mean, Bret in charge and having Anvil and Bulldog helping out would've maded the Thrillers work really well. Figure out how to make Mike Sanders not suck.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Something to Wrestle With's return episode is Bret Hart 1994-95.

Uh. Is Conrad a lurker here too?

 

[Valeyard]

He's another one I'm 80% sure posted here once upon a time. This modern era has a lot of people that would've been online during the peak years. I mean we had the It's Still Real To Me guy and that can't be the ceiling.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

If Jingus wasn't in kiddie porn, he coulda been somebody...

Well, maybe he could have been someone annoyingly prominent on Wrestling Twitter.

Actually nvm. Idk if being a convicted sex offender that much worse than that!

 

[Fall of Epic]

The "It's Still Real to Me" guy posted here?

 

[Valeyard]

Name on the old board was like KongaDave. Maybe CongaDave. But he outed himself early on.

 

[BruiserBrody]

On the rare occasion S Keith's old board gets mentioned elsewhere you see some notable PWO type geeks were there at least for a cup of coffee.

I'm pretty sure Bix has mentioned SK's board and I know I flamed Loss back when I was a REALLY awful person years ago before I moved out of some of my Hillbilly mind set.
I remember CongaDave.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Hawk 34]

Glad that Fatu just wandered into the photo shoot at the exact right time.

Given the time frame of this photo, is Bulldog the most glaring absence here?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I was gonna say it’s odd Fuji is there but Yoko isn’t but then I see Yoko poking his head out in the back.

It’s weird The Undertaker’s face is down. How do we know that’s not Brian Lee. Noticing SID isn’t there. BULL CRAP! No King Mabel either.

 

[Gert]

Maybe King Mabel, or was he already on the outs after messing up Diesel's back?

 

[Valeyard]

I think I hung that picture on my wall when I was like 10.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Brody: "I hate all this goofy shit in modern wrestling!! Argh!"

The wrestling that Brody watched, taped, rewatched during the week, ordered magazines and generally obsessed over:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563494782189838337

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564031453813415936

I'd buy a hungover singing Nash action figure.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564172022917234688

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It really demonstrates how much of a blow to the solar plexus that the nWo was. For the first six or seven months of the Monday Night Wars, WWF really seemed to like they had the fire back in their belly and were starting to rebound from the '93-'95 doldrums. Then once nWo starts, the product feels punch drunk and wobbly really until Survivor Series '96 and doesn't seem to fully find its footing until the RAW is WAR era really gets going.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564252280827920384

 

[BruiserBrody]

It really demonstrates how much of a blow to the solar plexus that the nWo was. For the first six or seven months of the Monday Night Wars, WWF really seemed to like they had the fire back in their belly and were starting to rebound from the '93-'95 doldrums. Then once nWo starts, the product feels punch drunk and wobbly really until Survivor Series '96 and doesn't seem to fully find its footing until the RAW is WAR era really gets going.

Also notable is that the MSG show was just under a year away from the famous MSG RAW w/ Cactus Jack's debut, Vince eating his first stunner and so on. Just a mark of how business was gaining steam from where it was.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564172215846838273

This was a big deal in my head at least. It was a rare World title defense on RAW. Plus Bigelow was coming off his LT angle and he was IIRC the first heel I rooted for when he came back in 1993.
I either had my brother record this RAW for me or went over and watched live. Prior to 1997 it was very rare for me to see any RAWs at all. Off hand I saw the IC title battle royal, MAYBE the Bret/Kid match and a few random ones like Bushwackers vs Quebecers, Marty/Kid vs Quebecers and Marty vs Johnny Polo. Some of those may have been something my neighbor taped and brought over.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564172215846838273

This was a big deal in my head at least. It was a rare World title defense on RAW. Plus Bigelow was coming off his LT angle and he was IIRC the first heel I rooted for when he came back in 1993.
I either had my brother record this RAW for me or went over and watched live. Prior to 1997 it was very rare for me to see any RAWs at all. Off hand I saw the IC title battle royal, MAYBE the Bret/Kid match and a few random ones like Bushwackers vs Quebecers, Marty/Kid vs Quebecers and Marty vs Johnny Polo. Some of those may have been something my neighbor taped and brought over.

The Razor/Martel IC Title stuff and the battle royal prior were seared into young me's brain speaking of Raws of that time period.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562609569490030594

 

[BruiserBrody]

The Razor/Martel IC Title stuff and the battle royal prior were seared into young me's brain speaking of Raws of that time period.

My bro was in his early 20s at that point and got legit pissed that Martel and the Quebec boys were triple teaming Razor. I vividly remember him saying something like "Those guys are going to dump Razor, then turn on Martel and they'll be stuck fucking each other next week!!"

 

[Valeyard]

I love that space of time. Razor was a quiet MVP.

As good a time as any to say Monday Night Raw: Prime Cuts is one of the best Coliseum Videos ever released.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564815643005820930

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564627752623386625

I'm not sure where I got mixed up, but had you asked me in the 90s I would have said Dibiase fucked his neck up and retired after this match. The internet eventually exposed to me that Ted toured Japan after.

I wonder if the WWF mag made a blurb about Ted's neck injury/retirement and I conflated the two things?

 

[Valeyard]

I know that narrative was also pushed by the IWC for a while, specifically large Canadian men who look like Dan Schneider with down's syndrome.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It's weird to think there was only five months between DiBiase's last match (three if you count JAPAN) and him returning as a mediocre color commentator and terrible manager. It felt like years.

Edit---Looking at Cagematch, his last match in All Japan Pro Wrestling was November 15th, 1993! So turnaround from him being active wrestler to him being a mediocre onscreen personality was only 8-9 weeks!

 

[Valeyard]

And the Japan run with Hansen is some of my favorite work, too.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I haven't read DiBiase's book in decades (and haven't read his 2nd book at all) but I know there wasn't one specific injury but the years of damage to neck and back added up. Once he was done, he was done. There wasn't any discussion of "maybe some day after some time off" RE: a comeback. I guess that's how those injuries worked thirty years ago.

On John Arezzi's show from Summer/Fall of '92, there's lot of talk once Bill Watts comes in that Ted DiBiase is going to jump over to WCW with Ric Flair. I wonder if DiBiase thinking about greener pastures is why he got his first main event push in years during the buildup to WrestleMania IX.

It'd have been interesting to see if he could have reinvented himself in '92/'93 WCW and rediscovered his passion working with his old boss. He was so burnt out after '91 and pre-Bischoff WCW was such a bust that I kind of doubt it would've happened.