2020 Election

[Precious Roy]

See, the funny thing is, I don't know bout all that

I only see this "Bernie is divisive" shit pushed by all the wrong people, and then it gets talked about, and then boom self fuffilling bullshit

Everyone older than me that I interact with seems deathly afraid of Trump. My grandmother liked Bloomberg until I hipped her to his gestapo tactics as mayor of NYC. My mother liked Pete, I continually pointed out how we're not ready to elect a gay yet as a nation and that it would take Dwayne Johnson to come out of the closet to make that happen. Her biggest problem with Bernie is that he's "too abrasive" and to that I say the status quo needs SANDPAPER

fuck it all. We'll get Biden or Trump, nothing will really change.

I'll be dead soon enough anyway, but posted for posterity, all of y'all fraid of change FUCK OFF A CLIFF AND DIE IN A FIA

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Roy, you're a fellow Massshole. Please. F-I-A-H. Gotta let that "ah" hang a bit, brothah.

I don't see Biden being the guy to beat Trump, personally. Not in a way that matters. Not in a way that actually changes the country for the better.

 

[Precious Roy]

me and Laz on the same page

my fear all along has been a repeat of 2016, with the DNC fucking over the people's choice

they didn't learn their lesson the first time. I'm so fucking glad I'm not a registered Democrat and a proudly registered AMERICAN

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Wouldn't say the same page but we're in the same part of the book on a lot of this shit.

I mean, I'll do my part and vote Biden if I have to, but taking a page from the winning strategy of GOP past and actually putting forth candidates with a bit more "hardcore" (for lack of a better term) approach could actually do some good. AOC is going to run one day, assuming her constituents approve of the job she does, and that's something worth looking forward to.

Can't lie about the potential entertainment factor during a Biden/Trump debate if Joe starts unbuttoning his cuffs and loosening his tie, though. The idea of a POTUS candidate being willing to throw hands at an incumbent would make for fun TV.

 

[bigolsmitty]

My only solace is Bloomberg, who is truly loathsome, eating shit.

 

[bigolsmitty]

I voted for Bernie in NoVa, but we were overwhelmed by the Raytheon/Langley vote :-\

 

[Tino Standard]

Bloomberg out, immediately endorses Biden.

I’ll say this: If the Democratic power players can put together a cohesive effort to go after Trump that is remotely close to what they’ve done to snuff out Bernie, Biden might have a chance in November. It has been something else watching all of the candidates on the centrist side of the party swiftly fall in line behind one guy after the South Carolina primary.

 

[Brocklock]

I'm not a Biden fan, but thank god Bloomberg is out.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

my fear all along has been a repeat of 2016, with the DNC fucking over the people's choice

If Biden gets more votes than Sanders, is Sanders really "the people's choice"? I mean, Sanders appears to be the choice of the people on the internet but, in my (admittedly anecdotal) experience, the people voting for Biden don't typically fuck with the internet like that. Same way as how, if I were going by Twitter, Warren appeared to be a clear choice among black people, particularly in North Carolina, where she had built strong coalitions... But black people who aren't on Twitter don't appear to fuck with Warren, and she got killed in NC.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'm not a Biden fan, but thank god Bloomberg is out.

Mike Bloomberg spent $700 million and won American Samoa. I’m pretty sure you could buy literal American Samoa for less than $700 million

^^^ Stolen from the Dan LeBatard Show subreddit.

The more I read about Bloomberg, the more I get the sense that his entire campaign was to make sure that Warren or Sanders didn't get the nomination.

 

[909]

Are those candidates who should have dropped out two weeks ago not supposed to drop out and endorse someone?

 

[NYU]

Are those candidates who should have dropped out two weeks ago not supposed to drop out and endorse someone?

I feel like you’re being obtuse. They either should have dropped out weeks ago when it was clear to absolutely everyone that they really had no path to the nomination....or if they were going to stay in this long, they might as well have waited until after Super Tuesday so they could see where the chips were going to fall. But dropping out a day or two before Super Tuesday and immediately throwing all their support behind the establishment candidate of Biden reeks of quid-pro-quo. I’d be shocked if Buttigieg and Klobuchar are not rewarded down the line. Timing is everything and it couldn’t be more clear that the timing here absolutely stinks of a conspiracy.

 

[Hektik]

Not everything is some DNC conspiracy designed to keep Bernie down. He's not entitled to numerous opponents splitting the moderate vote among each other. At some point he's going to have to actually expand his base of support.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Not everything is some DNC conspiracy designed to keep Bernie down. He's not entitled to numerous opponents splitting the moderate vote among each other. At some point he's going to have to actually expand his base of support.

Indeed:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/super-tuesday-exit-polls-nearly-three-ten-voters-decided-last-n1148541?fbclid=IwAR0FgYhsRF7ISwPMC7MSDzDKbRlTWdX4sgLsOrklz8PzCmcBDTZjZdqaRt0

Almost two-thirds of the Super Tuesday electorate, 63 percent, are 45 and older. Thirty-seven percent are ages 18 to 44.

While Sanders had a 15-point edge over Biden with first-time voters, those voters made up just 14 percent of the Super Tuesday electorate.

For all the rhetoric about Sanders energizing younger voters, "energized" still doesn't appear to translate to actually showing up to vote. Can't blame that on a conspiracy.

 

[Cartman]

At some point people just need to accept that Bernie doesn't generate enough WIDESPREAD support. Reddit is a pretty small group in the grand scheme of things, and clearly most young people either don't care, or aren't moved by the Sanders platform despite how passionate the internet youth supporters are. There's so many factors that go into who people get out and vote for, it's disingenuous to just claim conspiracy shit.

As disgusting as Trump is, he clearly has not affected enough people to swing things in a massively different direction nationally to wan't a massive Progressive movement politically.

 

[geniusMoment]

It was a disheartening day, but I just have to accept that there isn't a large enough percentage of voters who want true change. I do believe things like universal healthcare will occur in my lifetime. But, I don't think it's during this election cycle (in all fairness the Bernie victory would've been more symbolic than action, as I don't think he had to votes in Congress to do many of the things he promised).

My hope is that Biden wins against Trump, picks a VP who will energize the progressive base, and only stays for the 1 term, and maybe next election cycle that progressive VP becomes president.

 

[bigolsmitty]

At some point people just need to accept that Bernie doesn't generate enough WIDESPREAD support. Reddit is a pretty small group in the grand scheme of things, and clearly most young people either don't care, or aren't moved by the Sanders platform despite how passionate the internet youth supporters are. There's so many factors that go into who people get out and vote for, it's disingenuous to just claim conspiracy shit.

As disgusting as Trump is, he clearly has not affected enough people to swing things in a massively different direction nationally to wan't a massive Progressive movement politically.

After Bernie basically won Iowa, then won NH and crushed Nevada, plus his overall high favorability among Democrats and good polling in head to heads vs. Trump I'm actually pretty taken aback by this Biden comeback, I gotta say. He was also polling pretty well in SC for a minute there. It's especially strange after seeing Biden perform pretty poorly in debates and basically raise no funds, especially at the grassroots level, compared to Bernie.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Biden’s run is incredible when you consider how many times he’s lost, the number of potential front runners he has had to thwart, and all the blunders he’s made. I think he can beat Trump but I’m not sure about it.

At least we’ll get to see him and trump get heated during the debates and act like they’re gonna throw down IF ONLY WE WERE BEHIND THE HIGH SCHOOL PAL

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think other Berners are kind of underestimating Biden and appeal of Obama era nostalgia. I think Bernard would have a much better shot of beating Trump but I think Uncle Joe has a fair to middling shot himself. Our TWITTER BUBBLE hides us from how many centrists there are out there.


I'm all for Liz staying the race btw if she verbally pantses Biden at the next debate like she did to Bloomer in Vegas.

https://twitter.com/luisadieznuts/status/1235393511635156993

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

To the surprise of few, Elizabeth Warren is out.

 

[bigolsmitty]

Saw Tulsi live this morning at a briefing I attended...

 

[Precious Roy]

To the surprise of few, Elizabeth Warren is out.

I hope she can negotiate with Biden to be on the ticket. I can't see ol Joe lasting two terms and it would be an olive branch to progressives. She'd also be an extremely useful VP on policy

edit* and yes, I'm basically conceding the race to Biden now unless he gaffes his way out of it. Ideally I want to see a Bernie/Warren ticket

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I'm reaching the acceptance stage of Biden winning too. I'll fight with Bernard till the end but got to be realistic. If Biden dogwalks Bernie in Michigan like polls are saying might happen, might be time to call it a day.

 

[geniusMoment]

If you look at Massachusetts I think NY will be similar. I think Biden easily wins NY and Florida. That makes it hard for Bernie to win without basically winning everywhere else.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think Bernie has outside chance at NY but I thought Massachusetts was a shoo in sooooooo...it doesn't look great. Big question is if how hard Bernie goes after Biden. I think his best shot is to really hammer him on the Iraq War vote, his behavior in Anita Hill hearing, and his Pro Life opinions in '70s and '80s. But if you hammer too hard, it risks coming back to hurt Dems in the Fall.


I won't even assume that Warren's supporters will lineup behind Bernie either. I'm actually gonna guess she stays neutral till convention like in 2016. Damn those Bernie Bros for tweeting those snake emojis at her and her supporters!

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

Who’d she endorse

 

[bigolsmitty]

Nobody as of yet.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/Maizefarms/status/1235601716348846081
WELCOME TO THE RESISTANCE, GREAT KHALI!

 

[Brocklock]

I knew the GOAT Khali was cool.

 

[KingPK]

Warren is angling for a VP slot, either forming a progressive supergroup with Bernie (and actually trying to give concrete plans for all these promises) or trying to unite the party with Biden.