2020 Election

[JHawk]

I love how Delaney ignored the history Warren has had with the healthcare industry, and how Ryan is trying to argue against creating new jobs because of "blue collar issues."

Fuck you, Timmy. I'm blue collar. I want clean energy and new jobs to apply for. Go home.

Tim Ryan is so out of touch with the majority of his constituents, it isn't funny anymore. And he thinks there's even a remote chance of being president?

Fuck that guy.

 

[BruiserBrody]

I think a bad moment for Warren was her reaction when Delaney's 65 million wealth was mentioned and she reacted by smiling with wide eyes and wringing her hands over the thought of getting to tax him. That is an image that is a perfect gif for the MAGA crowd to use against her.
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I am still not sold at all that student debt elimination is at all a fair or viable move. It screams pandering for college kid's votes to me, and is an easy turnoff for millions who paid their own way and see this as "socialism".
Yeah but Trump tax cuts....yada yada yada... I know. I get it.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://deadline.com/2019/08/anderson-cooper-marianne-williamson-battle-mental-illness-issues-1202660436/

As someone who has lost people to mentally illness and has his own problems, I really strongly dislike her.

 

[KOAB]

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/36204293-the-war-on-normal-people

 

[Mickey Massuco]

wow that's one of the best rated books I've seen on Goodreads.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1158196171451576321

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Bernie Sanders is on Joe Rogan this week.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/david-duke-former-kkk-leader-announces-senate-run-n615006?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

This POS will never go away.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-says-poor-kids-are-just-bright-just-talented-white-n1040686

We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” Biden, who is running for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, said during a town hall in Des Moines with the Asian and Latino Coalition.

He paused, then quickly clarified, “wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.”

“No, I really mean it, but think how we think about it,” he said.

Fucking gaffe machine.

 

[KOAB]

based joe

 

[geniusMoment]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/david-duke-former-kkk-leader-announces-senate-run-n615006?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

This POS will never go away.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-says-poor-kids-are-just-bright-just-talented-white-n1040686

We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” Biden, who is running for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, said during a town hall in Des Moines with the Asian and Latino Coalition.

He paused, then quickly clarified, “wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.”

“No, I really mean it, but think how we think about it,” he said.

Fucking gaffe machine.

It's amazing he still has the huge lead in polls after his mistakes and the 2 debates. I know it's early, but someone has to make a move up in the next 4 or 5 months or it's gonna be him. I feel like Bernie and Warren are gonna split each others vote. One of them really needs to drop out soon.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I can see Bernie dropping out and becoming part of Warren's team, 9r maybe Gabbard's.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

John Hickenlooper is out.

Guess America is not ready for a President who openly admits to watching porno with his mom.

 

[Sex Machine Gun]

President Shitbag said at a campaign rally on Thursday Americans "have no choice" but to vote for him, warning that "everything" would be "down the tubes" if he does not win reelection in 2020.

The president made the statement while hailing the economy's performance during his tenure in the White House, claiming that the U.S. had the best economy in the world right now. He later predicted that the markets would crash if he were to lose the 2020 election to the Democratic presidential nominee.

"The bottom line is, I know you like me, and this room is a love fest, I know that, but you have no choice but to vote for me, because your 401(k)'s down the tubes, everything's gonna be down the tubes," Shitbag said while speaking in Manchester, N.H.

"So whether you love me or hate me, you gotta vote for me,” he added.

Shitbag's remarks echoed those he made hours ahead of his Thursday evening rally. Speaking to reporters in New Jersey on Thursday afternoon, the president insisted that U.S. economic growth would end if the nation elected a Democrat to the White House next year.

"Frankly if for some reason that happened in the 2020 election, you'll see this economy go down the tubes. I will tell you that right now," Shitbag said.

The comments from Shitbag come amid an escalating trade war between the U.S. and China and as the stock markets suffer steep declines. On Wednesday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 800 points, its worst slide of 2019.

The slide came after the yield for 10-year Treasury bonds fell below that for 2-year bonds — an economic marker that frequently predicts recessions.

Shitbag earlier Thursday accused the news media of trying to harm the economy, claiming that the press was doing so to hurt his reelection prospects.

"The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China," Shitbag tweeted.

"Elect me or else!" Yeah, that's how we do politics in the United States after selling out our postwar mandate and ruining everyfuckingthing that's touched by this horrorshow of an administration.

Yeah, this is me getting salty, but continued trivializing of smaller transgressions of ethics and legality has created this impossibly high threshold for impeachment.

The Capitalists made this hellscape your life. All of you. All of us. Let's keep acting like you didn't fuck everyone through your complicity.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2019/08/22/john-delaney-says-was-offered-guinness-when-tried-order-iced-coffee-boston-bar/8k1OuDI5OyyCz9QTa1fC8L/story.html
Are we sure John Delaney is from this planet? Who friggin orders ICED COFFEE at a bar?

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sen-kirsten-gillibrand-drops-bid-democratic-nomination-2020-n1047571?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

So Gillibrand, Inslee, Hickenlooper and Moulton have all dropped out in the last week or two. We also have the lineup for the next debate AND CNN is doing a MASSIVE Climate Change Town Hall that is going to be SEVEN hours.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/459030-cnn-to-host-live-7-hour-climate-change-town-hall-with-2020-democrats?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

40 minutes for each candidate to address things.

https://www.axios.com/2020-candidates-dnc-debates-7f64b0be-f448-4274-9222-d06d24dc193b.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Candidates who will be on stage on 9/12:
Former Vice President Joe Biden
Sen. Bernie Sanders
Sen. Kamala Harris
Sen. Elizabeth Warren
Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke
Sen. Cory Booker
Sen. Amy Klobuchar
Andrew Yang
Former HUD Secretary Julián Castro

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

CNN scared of Tulsi, eh?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Only the candidates that made the September debate were invited to do the Climate Change Town Halls.

 

[909]

https://twitter.com/NGrossman81/status/1166933618612166656

 

[Precious Roy]

oh christ

 

[Mickey Massuco]

Conducted between August 24th-26th with a 3.9 percent margin of error, the poll has 31 percent of Democratic primary voters favoring Biden, followed by Sanders (24 percent), Elizabeth Warren (15), Kamala Harris (10), and Andrew Yang (4). Pete Buttigieg, Cory Booker, and Tulsi Gabbard all drew 3 percent support; Beto O’Rourke drew 2 percent; and Amy Klobuchar, Julián Castro, and “Someone Else” all drew 1 percent. The rest of the field didn’t register a blip.

first of all, go bernie.

second of all, never thought Yang would be outpolling Mayor Pete, Castro and even Booker lmao

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-biden-emerson-poll-877313/

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Yang's bringing some heat when he appears on shows with younger demographics.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Andrew Yang is kind of a fucking goof and the $1,000 a month is a weird, semi-unreasonable campaign hook but I think automation is legitimately a huge, huge concern, nearly on the scale of global warming and he's really the only candidate that seems to be talking about it. I totally get why he's so appealing to voters under the age of 30.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I think fear of automation is reasonable in the short term but long term it is over-blown. Historically we've had these kind of panics with every big new technological change and while it obviously effects certain job fields it also leads to whole new fields of employment. The important thing is finding a way to help give the people who are losing out a leg up in finding new opportunities.

 

[geniusMoment]

I think fear of automation is reasonable in the short term but long term it is over-blown. Historically we've had these kind of panics with every big new technological change and while it obviously effects certain job fields it also leads to whole new fields of employment. The important thing is finding a way to help give the people who are losing out a leg up in finding new opportunities.

I would argue this time is different in that automation has the potential to take away virtually all service sector jobs over the next 50 years. Walmart is now the largest employer in this country and at some point there will no longer be a need for virtually any employees in stores. In warehouses no longer will people pick parts, but machines will.

The jobs that this opens up are skilled, engineering jobs where individuals keep the machines running. The vast majority of this workforce are unskilled, and quite frankly a significant portion probably won't have the skills to transform over to these jobs (of which there will be significantly less than what went away).

These service sector jobs are the new unskiled manufacturing/factory jobs that used to build the middle class. The pay isn't nearly what it used to be when adjusted for inflation. This is why the wealth in this country has had the disparity grow at an alarming rate.

Once those service sector jobs go there isn't really any place left for the population to go.

Don't worry though. It will crash the economy as a whole. As the only reason stocks go up is due to people buying goods. If people no longer have jobs than people aren't buying stuff from Walmart, Amazon, Apple, Netflix etc... and all those stocks will crash. So in this scenario the 1% lose everything too.

And then it becomes like the wild wild west again. I welcome the new world.

 

[Precious Roy]

Well, I'm gonna be dead soon anyway. Feel bad for all those shoulda been aborted unborn babies tho....

 

[909]

Andrew Yang is kind of a fucking goof and the $1,000 a month is a weird, semi-unreasonable campaign hook but I think automation is legitimately a huge, huge concern, nearly on the scale of global warming and he's really the only candidate that seems to be talking about it. I totally get why he's so appealing to voters under the age of 30.

Yeah, it's because voters under 30 don't really pay attention to what candidates actually say if they have one or two catchy ideas.

Months after announcing his bid for the presidency as a Democrat, entrepreneur and author Andrew Yang was paid for a number of speaking engagements, bringing in $94,000 between April 2018 and February 2019, his financial disclosure report shows.

Among the well-heeled clients paying for his appearances was JPMorgan Chase & Co., which paid $10,000 for five different events. Yang described the speaking engagements to ABC News as speeches about the subject matter of his book, "The War on Normal People," being presented to "leaders of various financial institutions."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/andrew-yangs-speaking-fees-including-jpmorgan-raise-campaign/story?id=65216883

Takes money to speak for a bank after announcing a campaign? No. If he was a serious candidate, people would have to start asking serious questions. Like about that.

I think we have to accept the idea that automation is not something we are ever going to be prepared for, that these jobs most certainly are going to disappear, and in tandem with that his idea of how to deal with that problem is not comprehensive enough.

We also need to confront this reality...

“How did Donald Trump become our president in 2016?” Yang asked a crowd in New York City this past May. “The explanations go something like Russia, Facebook, the FBI, maybe a dash of Hillary Clinton thrown in there. But I looked at the numbers … and Donald Trump is our president for one simple reason: We automated away 4 million manufacturing jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, all of the swing states that Donald Trump needed to win.”

Thus, to beat back the rising tide of far-right nationalism, the federal government must restore the middle class’s economic security — by providing every American a basic income of $12,000 a year.

There are a wide variety of problems with this story. For one, there is very little evidence that objective economic conditions in the postindustrial Midwest were a major factor in (let alone, the sole cause of) Donald Trump’s election. For another, it is not clear how a $1,000 monthly check would function as an adequate replacement for the income, community, and sense of purpose that good union jobs once provided Rust Belt workers.

But the biggest flaw in Yang’s grand theory is that its foundational premise is (almost certainly) wrong. Robots are not on the cusp of inevitably, irrevocably condemning wide swaths of the U.S. population to joblessness. Were automation progressing at the rate Yang claims, productivity growth would be rapidly accelerating. Instead, across Western economies, productivity gains are tepid. And if Moore’s Law were rendering an ever-wider swathe of workers redundant, the labor-force-participation rate would be in free fall; instead, it has been steadily rising, while the unemployment rate has sunk near half-century lows.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/what-andrew-yang-gets-wrong-and-right-about-automation.html

In addition, as the article points out, there's going to be work because of climate change. That work cannot be automated. The focus needs to be on massive public works that allow people in this country to live without their house flooding every time that it rains. People are going to have to move from their shitty area out in the sticks because the factories are gone. That's just how it is. We adapt and we move forward, but we need a labor revolution to ensure that people are paid properly for the work that is being created as a result of the problems with this planet.

 

[KOAB]

so yang was right about needing to move to higher ground

 

[Precious Roy]

He's spot on with most of his ideas, and they're functional and actuable. AND FUN!

Problem is, well, it ain't gonna happen. But it's rad that he's putting ideas out there, and hopefully, some people pay attention......and maybe we have a mass die off of old white republicans in our lifetime. I have frozen sperm and I plan to have a frozen brain if I can afford it (cryo is mad expensive yo) but whatever......hopefully when I'm no longer of this world the planet hasn't been lit ablaze

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Bill de Blasio says he's going to drop out on October 1st if he doesn't qualify for the October debates.

Me learning how to do a cartwheel by October 1st seems about as likely as de Blasio qualifying for that debate.

Bill de Blasio isn't a popular Mayor. Why the eff is he running for President? I'm not even a hater. I probably agree with him on policy more than like all but one or two other candidates but he might be most unnecessary candidate in a field with a lot of unnecessary candidates.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Howard Schultz has ended his independent campaign for President.

(Howard Schultz was still running!?)

In these divisive times, at least, I'm glad that left wing and right wing could come to a consensus and agree that nobody wanted the Starbucks doofus (and the guy who helped run Sonics out of Seattle) to be President