The next thing will be him complaining about his push and complaining that he has to go on early at PPVs because nobody wants to be around him. There's only one place all of this goes and it's him out of the company.
Chat! culturecrossfire.slack.com
AEW in August 2023: All In/All Lynn (Death Metal Growl)
- Thread starter Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
- Start date
Tino Standard
Integral Poster
- Messages
- 2,708
- Reaction score
- 870
- Points
- 188
If/when Punk is done with AEW, it might hurt Collision in the short term, but it will be better for the company in the long run. You can’t keep having issues like this, and there’s one guy who seems to be the common denominator.
And let’s be honest, it’s not exactly like ticket sales and TV ratings for Collision are setting the world on fire with him anyway.
And let’s be honest, it’s not exactly like ticket sales and TV ratings for Collision are setting the world on fire with him anyway.
Valeyard
Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
- Messages
- 15,754
- Reaction score
- 7,397
- Points
- 253
Dude came very close to sabotaging the biggest show ever. Not worth the trouble. Even Warner can see that. You don't do this shit twice. Vets like him should not have to be sent home like a fucking middle schooler from a birthday party.
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
Integral Poster
On the other end of the spectrum, MJF celebrated his Wembley Stadium victory with some 2 AM McDonalds.
so is having the same hairline and eating habits as me part of his babyface turn?
so is having the same hairline and eating habits as me part of his babyface turn?
One Epic Winter (OEW)
Epic Reine
A 90s television actor's son got one of the best wrestling stars of the past 20 years to qhit the business. That's certainly something that wasn't on my bingo card.
It's just funny that someone who made it to the top by making snarky comments about other wrestlers reacts like this now that snarky comments are being made about him. Grow the fuck up dude, you guys are supposed to be pulling in the same direction, but you leak out a story that is going to necessitate some kind of response and then Jack made one. If any comment on camera is made and it helps the company or the wrestler making it, get the fuck over it. That was Punk's mentality for twenty years but he got soft, insecure because he came in and wasn't the absolute top guy getting all the attention, and now everything someone says hurts his feelings. What Jack said is not hurting you, he had a good match, did some spots (I think there's a chance that the spots with the limo set Punk off more than the comment), and quietly did the job.
The disconnect between Punk and the rest of the locker room is that if the line was about someone else, 95% of the other people there would have told Jack that was a funny line and it wouldn't have hurt their feelings. That's why he doesn't fit in and that's why these problems keep happening.
The disconnect between Punk and the rest of the locker room is that if the line was about someone else, 95% of the other people there would have told Jack that was a funny line and it wouldn't have hurt their feelings. That's why he doesn't fit in and that's why these problems keep happening.
Last edited:
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
Integral Poster
Get rid of Punk and throw the bag at Edge to try to get him to be the face of Collision. It really isn’t that hard to figure out. How many times will Tony Khan let Phil put a damper on spectacular events?
Surprisingly he already pulled him
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
Integral Poster
Irony of one of the roster’s biggest vaguebookers saying this isn’t lost on me.
Valeyard
Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
- Messages
- 15,754
- Reaction score
- 7,397
- Points
- 253
Also, and this is a really weird thing to say, AEW always delivers. Even a lame AEW show doesn't feel like time wasted, or at least not much and certainly consistently more than WWE. They over-deliver to where it's hard keeping a lot of things straight unless they're really great or really bad. Yesterday was really great, but there's a very real possibility All Out records over some of it for some people. Or it would if there wasn't a fight, and one so early in the show that it didn't overshadow the whole thing. It's now even more iconic.
Yeah I gotta disagree with Santana on this one. The timing of the incident added to the event and kept me thinking about the event itself, kept me from getting bored during the event. It was cool as shit that these wrestlers got to work in front of so many people and this incident didn't detract from that. The first time I saw Darby and Pentagon they were taking crazy bumps in front of 500 people. And they fuckin made it man, they didn't have to ride lawnmowers out to the ring, they didn't have to sell out and cosplay as male cheerleaders or someone's fake brother, they made it out to 80,000 people by playing their own music. An old vet acting like a diva is incapable of ruining that. All Punk did was shit on himself and ruin his own legacy. He didn't ruin this though.
Valeyard
Retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
- Messages
- 15,754
- Reaction score
- 7,397
- Points
- 253
If the fight happened later in the show, he'd have a point. That would totally distract if it happened during like Bucks/FTR. But it happened first thing so it was out of the show's system.
I just hate how no matter what I feel like I'm going to like Perry more regardless.
I just hate how no matter what I feel like I'm going to like Perry more regardless.
I though Bucks/FTR was just some random "epic" match and one of the least interesting things on the show tbh. FTR has better matches regularly.
The Punk/Perry thing didn't hurt the show as it was happening but it can hurt the company coming out of it. Punk does have an effect on business to an extent. One of the main reasons I was able to convince my brother and several other people to go to Collision was that Punk was on it (along with Joe).
The Punk/Perry thing didn't hurt the show as it was happening but it can hurt the company coming out of it. Punk does have an effect on business to an extent. One of the main reasons I was able to convince my brother and several other people to go to Collision was that Punk was on it (along with Joe).
"Who gives a damn about who fought with who"
Wrestling fans. This is the premise of wrestling. Just because this bit was real and the other bits were scripted doesn't mean wrestling fans aren't going to be interested in which wrestler has issues with another wrestler. We're conditioned to be interested by virtue of liking wrestling which is about people fighting each other
Agree with other's sentiments, it does get distracting. Since last year I've found it harder to remain invested in AEW. Between Tony's booking issues and a general feeling of unease it remains difficult to be excited for the next show even when the last show was excellent.
I realise these two statements are a little contradictory. I'd like to be able to ignore the real backstage nonsense even but it's hard not to. Half of it sounds like angles and the other half leads to characters on television disappearing
Wrestling fans. This is the premise of wrestling. Just because this bit was real and the other bits were scripted doesn't mean wrestling fans aren't going to be interested in which wrestler has issues with another wrestler. We're conditioned to be interested by virtue of liking wrestling which is about people fighting each other
Agree with other's sentiments, it does get distracting. Since last year I've found it harder to remain invested in AEW. Between Tony's booking issues and a general feeling of unease it remains difficult to be excited for the next show even when the last show was excellent.
I realise these two statements are a little contradictory. I'd like to be able to ignore the real backstage nonsense even but it's hard not to. Half of it sounds like angles and the other half leads to characters on television disappearing
Report: CM Punk-Jack Perry Incident Leads to Suspensions
CM Punk and Jack Perry had an altercation at AEW’s All In pay-per-view that has led to suspensions – and an investigation to determine what took place
www.si.com
Both suspended. I think Tony for all his flaws and weirdness has mostly walked the line with Punk. WBD clearly wanted him to be the centerpiece guy for a second show and saw him as a very big deal so he needed to keep him around and try to work around his BS. Now that he's kept causing all this shit he can make a good case he just isn't worth the problems and can also point to the ratings not being that amazing, especially if they don't change with Punk gone. He should load the show up this week.
Something from the presser no one is talking about is how TK went off on a tangent to Adam Cole about how he would have paid him his entire contract (and told him so at the time) if he hadn't been able to come back from injury. He was so worked up over it too. That might not be great business but Tony is a way better human being than any other promoter wrestling has had. I'm sure he paid all of Brodie's contract out to his family ( @909 originally pointed that out in the chat) as well.
For
I do agree that loading up the show would be a good idea but bad timing as it goes head to head with a WWE PLE and it’s a holiday weekend so it’s facing a lot of attrition in regards to having a better than usual rating.Report: CM Punk-Jack Perry Incident Leads to Suspensions
CM Punk and Jack Perry had an altercation at AEW’s All In pay-per-view that has led to suspensions – and an investigation to determine what took place
Both suspended. I think Tony for all his flaws and weirdness has mostly walked the line with Punk. WBD clearly wanted him to be the centerpiece guy for a second show and saw him as a very big deal so he needed to keep him around and try to work around his BS. Now that he's kept causing all this shit he can make a good case he just isn't worth the problems and can also point to the ratings not being that amazing, especially if they don't change with Punk gone. He should load the show up this week.
It's a really terrible looking card from WWE though at least ATM so if they're ever going to do well against one, then this is it. There isn't any Bloodline stuff on it and Cody is doing an interview segment.
One Epic Winter (OEW)
Epic Reine
Would there be any chance of Punk joining WWE? I know the bad blood that led to him leaving and vowing never to come back but money talks and I doubt Punk wants to leave the business best remembered as being a pain in the ass (idk maybe he does!).
One Epic Winter (OEW)
Epic Reine
Just watched All In - loved it. Exceeded all my expectations. I can't say enough how much licensed music makes a different in the viewing experience. Sting coming out to Seek & Destroy justifies my WCW Mayhem: The Music CD purchase from 1999!
"Golden Age Actress" Toni Storm is it!
"Golden Age Actress" Toni Storm is it!
No chance at all. WWE wouldn't even send him a contract.
One Epic Winter (OEW)
Epic Reine
I can see HHH seeing all the problems Punk is causing in AEW and realizing he doesn't want that in his locker room but on the other hand, I can definitely see them taking him in, paying him a truckload of cash, and having him do high profile jobs to "humble" him. HHH is certainly petty enough to get revenge on the guy who badmouthed him and his company all those years ago.
I will never discount Punks bitterness but I don’t believe he’s pathetic enough to go work in GCW so the very likely possibility his final match was with Joe was fitting.
Sure beats getting concussed and thrown thru a table by Corporate Kane.
Sure beats getting concussed and thrown thru a table by Corporate Kane.
Hunter isn’t in charge of the “humble them” division of the company.
There’s just as many detractors of Punk in that locker as AEW has. AEW has to answer to a superior. Vince doesn’t really have that issue.
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
Integral Poster
At least the match with Joe was a really good match against a long time rival. It’s a better way to go out than Brawl Out.
What makes you think Punk would agree to do jobs?