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AEW in August 2023: All In/All Lynn (Death Metal Growl)

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Three months ago I was seriously considering getting the top-ish tier tickets for this, reasoning that I'd been watching wrestling for 20 years and this felt like it could be a momentous event, worth spending "once in a lifetime" money on. (I've never been to a big show before, only indies and if I went I'd want a decent view). I'd have to travel a decent way, plus find somewhere to stay and I'd definitely be doing this solo as my friends at best have a casual interest but it seemed like the sort of thing you pull out all of the stops to be there for.

Now there's a coach to and from the event leaving 20 minutes walk from where I live, there's still tickets available and really can't be fussed.
I'm sure the show will be a good AEW wrestling event but it just feels like other AEW wrestling events.

The monday after All In is a public holiday in the UK so the weekend is a pretty big summer weekend. I can not go to London, see friends, go to some outdoor party, drink and dance in the sunshine and then on monday watch All In from my sofa. Pretty used to not watching AEW live and this doesn't really instill much desire to change that.

Obviously I don't matter in the grand scheme of things, they've sold plenty tickets. It's just weird there was so much hype and now it's kinda just there.
 

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I really don't understand nor like how this show has been booked. I'm not a fan at all of rushing out matches after months of selling tickets in general, especially for stadium shows, and especially when this is the most important show the company has ever run. This isn't like Forbidden Door where the allure is the dream matches and you can get away with less being more. It just feels like an especially big Dynamite taping right now. I'm glad it's going to succeed but it deserves way more thought because outside of the crowd it doesn't feel special in the slightest.
 

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I can’t believe it really seems like they are moving forward with running All In and All Out on back-to-back weekends as full-price PPVs. No streaming service launch. No package deals for buying both. And as of now, the only match booked for the second show is…Darby Allin vs Luchasaurus?

I keep wondering how they are going to make this work, and so far, it seems like the answer is that they aren’t. Hope I am wrong.
 

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All Out is going to be the big Collision taping. If any of the paths cross in Chicago, that's when the worst shit will go down backstage.
 

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hasn't wwe and aew both basically left it to the last week or two to reveal the majority of the card for ppvs going back years? You can usually geuss what the matches will be or there might be leaks to Meltzer but usually the only role out the offical card fairly late.

I'm far more bothered by the fact the shows, especially Dynmaite feel so directionless.
 

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And it's awful all the time, but in this case is worse because of the scope of the show and the tepid card that's currently released. AEW has less leeway because they don't run PPVs every month (for now) and it's hard to make an event feel special when you handle it like that and it just is baffling how All In is a victim of that mindset as it's one of the most important shows ever. WWE is guilty for a lot of that too but at least by the end of January you have a very strong idea of what's going to happen at the biggest show of the year in April. This is great TV card that's in absolutely the wrong place and built the wrong way.
 

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And it's awful all the time, but in this case is worse because of the scope of the show and the tepid card that's currently released. AEW has less leeway because they don't run PPVs every month (for now) and it's hard to make an event feel special when you handle it like that and it just is baffling how All In is a victim of that mindset as it's one of the most important shows ever. WWE is guilty for a lot of that too but at least by the end of January you have a very strong idea of what's going to happen at the biggest show of the year in April. This is great TV card that's in absolutely the wrong place and built the wrong way.
I want to see how the show actually ends up being but I agree AEW has done a terrible job building it and is missing a huge opportunity. There was a very brief period where AEW was my number 1 company but NJPW has regained that spot. I still would put them at number 2 easily and I love a ton of what they do but the things they get wrong just makes it more frustrating.
 

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That's been my problem. They can and have been incredible but when they fail it's pretty substantial, both on and off TV. I want them to succeed but I'm also holding them to the same standards I try to have for other places. I have to play catchup most of the time and it's very hard getting into things after the fact when they pick the road of most resistence. All their failings are so visible because of the huge quality dips they without fail always have.
 

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I really like the Swerve Vs Allin feud. Sting's little segment there was hilarious. If you're going to do goofy shit that's what I want to see.
 

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parts of that cole/mjf segment were still funny but its starting to go too goofy for me. I don't mind them finding how far they cant ake it but I would rather they dial it back again.
 

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On the subject of the shows being directionless, and I would say that the Saturday show has been directionless when I watched it, well that's kinda what happens when you enable CM Hogan to control who comes in and out of the locker room and how they're supposed to act. Tony said in the first place that he was going to flip wrestlers back and forth between Wednesdays and Saturdays all the time. Except now he can't because he enabled one guy to run the entire locker room. I don't know how any booker could make plans and execute them with this situation looming over everything. But it's all his fault.
 

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I can’t find the tweet now, but someone suggested that they make “Tony Khan is actually a raging, abusive asshole behind closed doors who just pretends to be a socially awkward geek with no stage presence when he’s in front of a camera” a recurring bit to cover for the fact that Tony actually is a socially awkward geek with no stage presence on camera, and I’m not gonna lie, I kinda like the idea.
 

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FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT! YOU DON'T FUCKING DESERVE ME, COCKSUCKER! HASHTAG ALL ELITE SAYS I CAPTAIN THIS SHIP, MOTHERFUCKER! I OWN RING OF HONOR!
 

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The comment section on AEW's instagram about Leatherface is the worst thing I've ever read. "This match was incredible. It's like 1998 WWF had a baby with 1992 WCW that was raised by 1994 FMW. 10/10 please run it back."

I would've actually dug that segment if TK had worked out how to use the Super Leather gimmick and had Jarrett and Hardy viciously impaled on nail boards.
 

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That Texas Chainsaw deatmatch...or whatever it was....was beyond awful. Some of the worst shit I ever sat through. Yeti level bad, Robocop in WCW level bad.

I don't care if it was done as a tie in...embarassing, and everyone who agreed to that should feel shame. What an absolute pile of shit.

The rest of the who was hit and miss. MJF/Cole stuff was a hit for me as usual. Swerve/Darby/Wayne/Fox stuff was good as well. Britt's match was crap, main event was kind of a mess.

I dunno....I didn't outright hate anything outside of the chainsaw bull shit, but this seems like treading water until All In.
 

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What happened to Britt Baker? I always thought she was a decent enough worker, but her last several matches lately have been the drizzling shits. Everyone’s entitled to a bad match here and there, but the way she has nosedived in the ring has been jarring.
 

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She sucks as a face. Her success was chiefly because she could rely on her heeling up to hide how decidedly mediocre she is, and as a face she just is as boring as it gets, made worse that she's just naturally not someone people want to root for. The women's title match is the lamest built thing on the card so far to the point.

And they can donate whatever they like to charity, that Texas Chainsaw shit was godawful. I admit my being a big fan of the source material is an issue, but for me I'd rather have apes vs zombies.
 

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she also doesn't have her crew to help hide her flaws.

I don't care about the source material or really know anything much about it and I thought the Chainsaw match was beyond bad. It's great the money is being donated but it was still awful.
 

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And they can donate whatever they like to charity, that Texas Chainsaw shit was godawful. I admit my being a big fan of the source material is an issue, but for me I'd rather have apes vs zombies.
David Arquette donated all of his WCW money to Droz and Melanie Pillman. Doesn’t make up for how crappy the angle is but it’s nice that something good came out of it.

How often does something good come out of a bad WWE angle?
 
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