AEW in August 2023: All In/All Lynn (Death Metal Growl)

[Broward83]

Do we really need an Adam Cole title run?

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

MJF can just win it back at All Out.

 

[geniusMoment]

I've seen that speculation, but Punk being the "real world champion" works best against MJF. And the eventual big money match is the Champ vs. The Real World Champ.

If you are spitballing the biggest money match AEW could have it would be Omega winning the AEW belt and holding it for 6 months before facing Punk in a unification match. But, since contracts are guaranteed and guys don't get paid more for PPV buys no one has any incentive to do it.

 

[Tino Standard]

By the way, unless it ends up being essential to the main event storyline, putting MJF and Cole in a preshow tag team match at All In seems like a wildly unnecessary risk. I get wanting to have some sort of big match on the preshow so that everyone is in their seats when the main show goes live, but you have a ton of other viable options on the roster to fill that slot.

 

[geniusMoment]

Any idea on who BCC is going against at All In?

It doesn't appear to be Best Friends or Death Triangle. The only AEW group that would make some sense is Kingston reuniting with a returning LAX. I don't see anyone else on the roster. But, I know LAX had a shit ton of bad blood with each other.

Other than that maybe some NJPW guys. But, that would seem kinda just thrown together at the last minute.

 

[skullman80]

By the way, unless it ends up being essential to the main event storyline, putting MJF and Cole in a preshow tag team match at All In seems like a wildly unnecessary risk. I get wanting to have some sort of big match on the preshow so that everyone is in their seats when the main show goes live, but you have a ton of other viable options on the roster to fill that slot.

I feel like that match isn't going to happen and it's just going to be an angle of some kind.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

they'll be about to win when rod strong distracts cole and mjf gets pinned setting up TENSION or some shit like that for the main event.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Valeyard]

Oh fuck OFF with that.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It’s a match that wasn’t very good in the first place with a dumb gimmick and twenty years later!

 

[Valeyard]

The only payoff is Hall and Nash showing up in Elvis costumes to beat the shit out of literally everyone and challenging Hero and Kingston for the rights to the Kings of Wrestling name. Unless that exact scenario happens, this should not be booked and both guys should be turfed.

If TK has to keep booking old guys, don't book them against each other and take valuable time away from literally anyone else.

 

[Hawk 34]

It can’t be lost that they are doing this hoarseshit during a charity event.

Next years Fight for the Fallen is just going to be paying for Jeff’s next rehab stint.

 

[Valeyard]

Which Jeff?

 

[Valeyard]

But in semi-seriousness it's fucked up they want people to make withdrawls from a charity.

Bring back the good old days where the Elite come out with a big check for less than the cost of paying the ring crew and patting themselves on the back.

 

[909]

More On Christopher Daniels & Others Not At AEW Collision – Exclusive

Christopher Daniels and his involvement in the post-All Out altercation was specifically portrayed to us as to why The Fallen Angel is not at AEW Collision.

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CM Punk caused controversy following this past week’s edition of AEW Collision when he made divisive comments about “Hangman” Adam Page and The Elite during an off-air promo. Punk branded Page as “a peg warmer, unlike me who moves merchandise and pops ratings and sells toys” before taking a shot at AEW stars who believe they are the heart, soul, and spirit of the promotion, a statement made in the past by The Elite. He then tried to make a GTS joke but fumbled it before admitting he had been “rocked” during the main event.
Wrestling Observer reports that Adam Page was originally sent to Greensboro to record a pre-taped interview for this Wednesday’s edition of Dynamite. When he got there, however, he was told he’d have to do the pre-tape away from the arena and not attend the show whatsoever. It was also noted that Page is not the only talent that’s encountered an issue like this.

Fightful reports that Ryan Nemeth was set to appear on Collision this past week but was sent home after being told he wasn’t needed. Earlier today, on Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Melzer confirmed the report and stated that this was not the first time this had happened to Nemeth or others on the AEW roster. Matt Hardy was apparently booked as well and was told not to go to the building after getting into town for the taping. The same goes for Christopher Daniels, who has been working ROH tapings and is the promotions Head of Talent Relations.

Haus of Wrestling has confirmed that at least two of these men not being backstage at Collision stem from issues with CM Punk. Notably, Christopher Daniels’ involvement in the post-AEW All Out altercation was specifically portrayed to us as the reason The Fallen Angel is not at Collision. Since Ace Steel, Punk’s good friend, was also involved in the altercation but not allowed to return backstage for Collision, Punk is said to feel the same about Daniels and does not want him backstage either.

I can't believe anyone would let him do this lmao.

 

[tekcop]

lmao. I kinda wish Punk sucked, b/c I'm so much more interested in what he's doing on Collision than anything anyone else on the roster is doing, but also I think he might be killing the company.

 

[geniusMoment]

More On Christopher Daniels & Others Not At AEW Collision – Exclusive

Christopher Daniels and his involvement in the post-All Out altercation was specifically portrayed to us as to why The Fallen Angel is not at AEW Collision.

www.hausofwrestling.com

I can't believe anyone would let him do this lmao.

Well, this is the guy who is letting him...(from PWTorch)

"When Punk first returned earlier this summer after his hiatus dating back to the prior year’s All Out media Q&A, Khan stood up backstage in the gorilla position with his headset on and started pumping his fist and chanting “C.M. Punk!” enthusiastically as Punk walked by. The feeling backstage among wrestlers not in a position of power with a big contract is to lay low when it comes to Punk because you don’t want to be on what is essentially his enemies list."

 

[geniusMoment]

lmao. I kinda wish Punk sucked, b/c I'm so much more interested in what he's doing on Collision than anything anyone else on the roster is doing, but also I think he might be killing the company.

This is basically the spot I'm in. Since the BCC/Elite stuff has kinda wound down there isn't anything I give a shit about on Dynamite. I'm sick of Jericho, so anything involving him is an immediate channel turner for me. The Cole/MJF stuff is fine, but I'm just not an Adam Cole guy. I'm sure Omega will have a great match Takeshita, but the story around it just isn't that interesting to me. The womens division is a mess.

I have no doubt he's a huge asshole with an overally sensitive ego. But, without Punk I don't think I'd watch AEW at all (I've already cut way back on it).

 

[909]

As highlighted on August 13, Ryan Nemeth was brought into North Carolina before the tapings, before he was promptly sent home. We’ve learned more about the words that they had recently. According to those familiar with the situation, Punk approached Nemeth when the two were at the Chicago Dynamite, where Punk was asked to be at. Punk spoke to Nemeth and asked him to make good on his “literally the softest man alive” tweet. The two moved out of the locker room and into a hallway, where those close to Punk claim that Nemeth said he was working to get heat. Punk believed that the tweet was Nemeth trying to score points with his friends, and asked him to knock it off because “tensions were high and they were trying to move on.” He said that he didn’t want Nemeth being passive aggressive unless they were handling it another way.

People close to Punk claim that Nemeth apologized, and that the two shook hands.

It was confirmed to us that Punk didn’t want Nemeth on Collision, even eating in catering, much less wrestling on the show. It wasn’t clarified to us if that was because of his tweet, or the relationship with the Elite. In addition, Nick Hausman of Haus of Wrestling reported that the reason Christopher Daniels was kept from Collision because Ace Steel, CM Punk’s friend, is not allowed at Collision. Punk didn’t see that as fair, as Daniels was also involved in breaking up the Brawl Out fight last September.

We have confirmed that Matt Hardy and Isiah Kassidy were supposed to be at recent AEW Collision episodes, and their travel was booked, then unbooked. They were not scheduled to be at this past week’s episode of Collision.

The talent that have been pulled are of the belief that it was CM Punk, but we haven’t heard specifically that’s the case. That same suspicion is part of the domino effect that led to where we are now, dating back to speculation that Colt Cabana was initially not going to be re-signed by AEW.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

AEW and Punk are kind of like a micro version of the GOP and Trump (if Trump was actually good at his job). He is absolutely toxic for the brand but if they get rid of them, they get rid of a huge swath of their fans.

 

[909]

I think Punk has fully crossed over into Hogan territory. For me I don't want to watch him and have been avoiding Collision for the most part, and I'm not even a fan of the Young Bucks or anything. I can't stand wrestlers who constantly play politics like this. Even a generous reading of the situation makes him sound worse than HHH in 02 and 03.

Tony needs to get everyone into a room and tell everyone that he's not gonna ban wrestlers from being at TV tapings. This is mostly his fault for not having a backbone.

 

[909]

Lmao the Torch's version of the story is...

At that Dynamite, PWTorch sources indicated Punk confronted Nemeth in the locker room. The story conveyed to PWTorch is that Punk cornered Nemeth in the locker room, got inches from his face, and angrily and aggressively asked if they had a problem or if they needed to settle things outside. Punk cited to Nemeth that his comments on Twitter inflamed existing tensions and that the optics of the tweet sent a bad message. This incident was witnessed by numerous wrestlers and was characterized as awkward and weird.

Nemeth moved the argument to the hallway, where Punk continued to berate him, according to our sources.


Dude I can't even with this. Someone needs to knock this guy out and put him in his place.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

With some guys, he is too much of a fan and with others, he is too much of a friend. Neither one really bodes well. Yeah, it’s nice to have a boss that isn’t an egomaniacal sociopath but bosses have to lead and make tough decisions sometimes.

 

[Valeyard]

They should never have brought him back and frankly his booking has been really weird since he returned. There's something super tone deaf about it for me, like similar but still different from WCW Hogan, if that makes any sort of sense. I don't give a fuck about Collision because I don't want to watch his special show despite liking enough on it to make it worthwhile. He's great, one of the greatest, but I don't need him anymore.

TK needs to actually be a fucking boss for once. All problems come down to him and his inability to do anything. It's either ignorance, apathy, or being legitimately stupid. Or all three. Personally I think he just likes thinking these people are his friends because he's a total mark and doesn't want to piss anyone off.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I know this shit is terrible but like @tekcop i find Punk so much more compelling than most people in AEW (or most places) so I want him on my tv. I don't blame anyone who is turned off by him and doesn't want him around. There's also the fact that from what we know Punk was a signficant part of AEW getting the 1.2 Billion Dollar tv deal. That's why they brought him back. They can't ignore the network or that kind of money. If he keeps causing shit like that and the ratings for Collision plummet in football season like they surely will then I'm sure he'll be gone.

 

[Valeyard]

What happened to White feuding with Punk?

 

[909]

What happened to White feuding with Punk?

Anyone's guess. One of these articles also said that Britt Baker is staying away from Punk for who knows what reason but I can only assume bad. Maybe there's a ton of people there who want nothing to do with him

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Anyone's guess. One of these articles also said that Britt Baker is staying away from Punk for who knows what reason but I can only assume bad.

Provoking a brawl with your spouse’s friends is probably enough excuse to avoid.

 

[Valeyard]

I called them banging and right now case is getting stronger.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

yeah i said to 909 that he at the very least tried to fuck her and thats what caused the falling out