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Literally the only match they've put on in a year I've actively wanted to see, so I can't wait to catch it when someone uploads it.
 

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Literally the only match they've put on in a year I've actively wanted to see, so I can't wait to catch it when someone uploads it.
People are still doing that? I don't even know where to find an illegal stream, anymore, and it's not the sort of thing I want to type into a search engine.
 

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Lol that’s how I’ve always watched AEW live stream or torrent the next day.

Edit: the only thing you have to type into google is “watch wrestling online”
 

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So from being at the show on Saturday....I noticed she had a headset on and was running around sections trying to presumably fill them. This was during the ROH stuff after Collision where legit over half of the crowd left en masse. So indeed, she's helping with the production side. BTW they really need to get a crew to handle creative for the ROH brand. Or in the very least, tape the entire show BEFORE Collision, but then you risk crowd burnout by the time Collision starts. But taping it after Collision does ROH absolutely no favors.

Another production aspect that I hadn't seen covered anywhere was that they were using a smoke machine steadily through one corner of the arena, opposite from the stage (that stage was fuckin whoa, seeing that initially). I think the idea was to give specifically ROH a bit of oldschool vibe perhaps, otherwise I don't quite get the choice.

Without seeing the broadcast yet, I have to say from a live perspective this did feel pretty different than a typical AEW TV taping astetically, plus having Dasha out there instead of Justin helped also. It just felt fresher and more bright and flashy production wise. I think they may have bought a new ring rig for the Collision show too as there was even fire gimmicks coming off the certain parts of the scaffolding rig way up high. Not sure what the purpose of that is, but it was a thing.

Punk was, I'd say 97 percent fucking over with this crowd obviously, but there was a singular person here and there that was trying to express themselves too. It got drownded out significally right away. Also a guy carrying a CM Junk sign who was running around ringside with the sign got massive heat pretty quickly, including a "fuck your sign" chant.

My feeling on the Punk promo is that I'm guessing we are now in work territory with the Bucks stuff, if he was in fact approved to state what he said. Maybe they have had some sort of meeting recently and the plan is to slowly get into this stuff. I think before they do, Punk will need to go full heel though, and that promo certainly seemed to suggest that is coming down the road.

My main qualms with everything was that there was really no surprise factor here (I thought perhaps Santana and Ortiz made up and we would get a P/P return here in the segment with Acclaimed or even saving Andrade) and the lack of a cliffhanger effect as well was strange. I'm not convinced Punk is working Forbidden Door as I would imagine that the end of Collision would have been the place to start the build, but if he is working the ppv, I have to wonder though how that will work....Punk, Omega and maybe Bucks on the ppv is going to be an issue perhaps but who knows. Like I said maybe they have at least addressed some tension backstage, else I can't imagine that promo would have went how it did.

Also odd that if they are using Punk for Dynamite, why in the fuck don't you at least advertise that at the end of the show?
 

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Another production aspect that I hadn't seen covered anywhere was that they were using a smoke machine steadily through one corner of the arena, opposite from the stage (that stage was fuckin whoa, seeing that initially). I think the idea was to give specifically ROH a bit of oldschool vibe perhaps, otherwise I don't quite get the choice.
I noticed the last time I went to a WWE show a couple years ago, they were using a smoke machine a lot to create that “laser beam” look with all of the lights on their set.

In AEW’s case, maybe it was also to help obscure empty seats with people leaving after Collision?
 

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Don't stream-shame. They ain't hurtin'.
 

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Punk getting merch in pink and black makes me like him much less.
 

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I noticed the last time I went to a WWE show a couple years ago, they were using a smoke machine a lot to create that “laser beam” look with all of the lights on their set.

In AEW’s case, maybe it was also to help obscure empty seats with people leaving after Collision?
That was my guess too. Since it felt like it was more smoked out during specifically the last leg of the ROH stuff after Collision ended. I think they just tried for a unique ambience with a small crowd with the lights down much lower than during Collision.

FWIW, there was really only two matches that stood out from the ROH stuff. The entire taping opened with a hot Willie Mack/Gringo Loco match, and then the ROH main (which started up an hour and half after Collision ended, whew) was Kiera Hogan vs Athena in a kinda wild street fight. Everything else felt like borderline AEW Dark content.

And on a side note, Ian and Caprice were not brought in to do live commentary.
 

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lol the idea people arent illegal streaming anymore
I guess I just sort of figured that people eventually outgrow mooching/freeloading. Certainly seems like a foolish thing for me to believe, in hindsight.

When I was going through my pirating phase, it wasn't because I didn't want to pay for shit, it was because I resented the fact that

  1. These big studios/labels were hoarding their IP and not making it available for sale/rental, and
  2. The ones that did refused to provide any 'a la carte' options. Maybe I don't want to buy Pink's whole second album, but I'll pay for "My Vietnam." Oh, I can't, because it wasn't released as a single? Well, fuck you! :: logs onto KaZaA ::
As soon as they started making stuff more easily available for purchase online, I was mostly happy to pay up.
 

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I guess I just sort of figured that people eventually outgrow mooching/freeloading. Certainly seems like a foolish thing for me to believe, in hindsight.

When I was going through my pirating phase, it wasn't because I didn't want to pay for shit, it was because I resented the fact that

  1. These big studios/labels were hoarding their IP and not making it available for sale/rental, and
  2. The ones that did refused to provide any 'a la carte' options. Maybe I don't want to buy Pink's whole second album, but I'll pay for "My Vietnam." Oh, I can't, because it wasn't released as a single? Well, fuck you! :: logs onto KaZaA ::
As soon as they started making stuff more easily available for purchase online, I was mostly happy to pay up.
This isn't a maturity issue and it's a really weird way to frame it.

There are 500 streaming services. No normal person is paying for all of them. Some companies like WWE or UFC I don't want to financially support but I want to check their shit out occasionally. I'm also not going to drop 70 bucks on a boxing event or whatever because the guys in chat are watching it, but I will grab a stream.
 

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Yeah man I'm not giving Dana White 85 bucks when they don't even give fighters 1% of that. There's just no way.
 

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I pay for Hulu and Netflix. Everything else I either borrow someone else's password or illegally stream.
 

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I usually buy AEW stuff because I do want them to succeed. I have Peacock so there isn't any need for me to illegally acquire WWE PPVs. I do use Putlocker for some tv shows that are harder to find. Right now I'm binge watching Northern Exposure. There are tons of shows like that where they aren't on any streaming service that I have. I don't even know if it's streaming at all. So I don't feel bad about my illegal activity.
 

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I usually buy AEW stuff because I do want them to succeed. I have Peacock so there isn't any need for me to illegally acquire WWE PPVs. I do use Putlocker for some tv shows that are harder to find. Right now I'm binge watching Northern Exposure. There are tons of shows like that where they aren't on any streaming service that I have. I don't even know if it's streaming at all. So I don't feel bad about my illegal activity.

You can't watch Homicide either unless you do that. It's pretty simple, I feel comfortable stealing from people who deserve to be stolen from. Otherwise I'll pay. Knowing that people get royalties from movies I would feel mad guilty for stealing them, so I don't
 
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