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Valeyard

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Isn't it supposed to be a soft-split because announcing these people refuse to cross paths makes it even worse?
 

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Canada doesn't get TBS (not sure since when because who cares about TBS) but We don't get TNT either and they just put Rampage on the TSN website and everyone who gets TSN can watch it on there whenever they feel like it or live. I'm sure they'll do the same thing with Collision.
 

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I’ve seen a lot of complaining about the ticket prices for the Canadian shows, so I went and looked up the Collision in Hamilton. You can get 2nd row ringside for $136—which includes fees. That’s an insanely good deal. The cheapest tickets ($55) aren’t a great price, per se, but it’s also not “show has only sold 700 tickets“ bad.

Other than that show specifically, it seems like AEW’s strategy for their TV tapings has been to keep prices inflated as long as possible and then drop them at the last minute enough to fill in sections to make it look for TV. I wonder if people are catching on or if interest in the product is just not there to justify a premium price point right now.
$136 for a tv taping is not a good deal at all. Is that before all the fees too? If that doesn't include the fees then you are probably at $150 minimum. For two people that's $300, if you are taking yourself and a couple of kids you are probably at $500 after parking and food for a TV taping. That is insane.

I make pretty good money and could afford that (if I lived in Canada), but would I pay that? Nope. Maybe for a PPV or something, but not for a TV taping of a show that doesn't even exist yet.

They are overvaluing those tickets IMO ...especially in those markets for a new show.
 

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A Raw second row seat is like 400 dollars from what I can tell. AEW running in Canada for almost the first time charging like 100 dollars isn't insane. It just shows how cold CM Punk and the entire concept of the show is. They had no problem selling tickets for Forbidden Door II.
 

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I mentioned that the $136 includes fees. If it’s not a price you’d pay, I totally get that, but if you look at the going rate for seats in the first 5 rows at a televised AEW or WWE event, you’re not getting close to that anywhere else.
 

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A Raw second row seat is like 400 dollars from what I can tell. AEW running in Canada for almost the first time charging like 100 dollars isn't insane. It just shows how cold CM Punk and the entire concept of the show is. They had no problem selling tickets for Forbidden Door II.
Forbidden Door II is also a PPV that you know is going to have a good/great card most likely. So the value is there in that case IMO. It's not there for a show that doesn't even exist yet when you don't even know if you are going to get CM punk or a bunch of castoffs at this point.
 

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I mentioned that the $136 includes fees. If it’s not a price you’d pay, I totally get that, but if you look at the going rate for seats in the first 5 rows at a televised AEW or WWE event, you’re not getting close to that anywhere else.

It's not the price so much I scoff at. Things are expensive. It's expecting people to want to pay that for a show that isn't even a thing yet, with no card announced and having no idea who is even going to be there.

Things are expensive, but from a value proposition dropping that much on so many unknowns is a big ask, and it seems it is for most other people too at least at this point.

I dropped 500$ for two metallica floor tickets when they came to pittsburgh last year, a good bit of money no doubt, but there was value in those (to me at least).

I just think AEW is overshooting a bit when there is so many unknowns, but maybe things change in the next few weeks. I hope they sell more tickets.
 

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An AEW PPV is a safe bet, even the lesser ones get at least 50% good reviews but AEW TV tapings have been such a mixed bag for the past year or so. Unless it’s a new major market or venue, Idk if you can trust them to consistently produce a great show.
 

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An AEW PPV is a safe bet, even the lesser ones get at least 50% good reviews but AEW TV tapings have been such a mixed bag for the past year or so. Unless it’s a new major market or venue, Idk if you can trust them to consistently produce a great show.
A few comments I've seen from fans in Toronto speak to that. TK has lost the benefit of the doubt when it comes to putting on good shows for live fans. If AEW wants to draw going forward you simply cannot put shows where acts like Butcher/Blade are in the main event. Tony is going to have to start putting stars in matches on shows.

Below are the comments:

"We clamoured for tickets when they announced their first Canadian show and it turned out to be complete shit cause of the Punk/Elite fiasco. Not only that, they held two back to back nights instead of what they usually do with filming Rampage after Dynamite - which we accepted at first, cause we thought we would get something crazy. Instead, we got crap. Toronto doesn't forget.

This time, for some fucking reason, theyre running shows in Hamilton. A 45 minute drive outside of Toronto. Why? Their shows arent' compelling enough to warrant 4 shows in the same area."


"The Rampage taping was 2 hours of Dark followed by a below average Rampage with Butcher & Blade in the main event. And during Dark all the local indy wrestlers that an AEW fan might know got jobbed out to AEWs c-tier. Ive been to all different brands, sizes,and types of shows (house, ppv, tvtaping, indy ippv etc) and this was one of the all time worst events Ive been to. AEW made one of the shitiest first impressions possible in Toronto. Which should have been a layup."
 

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The Emeryboard Jay Whitebread.
 

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In their backyard with one of their most iconic performers of the post-Attitude Era and a roster of well-knowns from pretty recent history.

This just makes me mad looking at it, though. Thank god for Forbidden Door.
 

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903000 viewers last night and .33 in the demo going against the finals.

Apparently female demo was way up last night
 

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Meltzer said AEW is probably pulling the plug on the house show experiment. Mentioned how with WWE they run house shows with stars but AEW had a hard time getting their stars to agree to work them.
 

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Can’t believe the practice of booking small podunk towns like Corbin with no names and doing no local promotions outside of tweets didn’t work.

You got acts like Sammy who publicly say he has no interest in house shows because he doesn’t need them, you’ve already lost the battle in the locker room when you let them think that.
 

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Yeah when you have guys like Shawn Spears as the only guys advertising themselves for your Saturday show I'm sure things are going to go great.
 

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I know he's been fumbled beyond reason since the breakup but I wish Wardlow was in Cole's spot against MJF. Just from a storytelling perspective. He's as damaged as one can get but at least it makes more sense.
 
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