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Collision not airing in Canada is bullshit. Fuck TSN+. I pay for cable to watch tv not my iPad.
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Valeyard
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AEW TV is the best example of watching live not always being the best move. But I also routinely am busy when their shows air and when I'm not have issues with how they can pace their shows, so fortunately the "let's just put really good people together and let them do cool shit or maybe not" is perfect for me.
Semi-related to the latter point: Callis has ruined Takeshita for the immediate future.
Semi-related to the latter point: Callis has ruined Takeshita for the immediate future.
Turning Takeshita heel is hilariously boneheaded. They had someone who got over huge as a babyface completely naturally on his own. There was no reason to turn him heel. Callis himself is fine in his role and I really hate him. Takeshita is just not meant to be a heel.
As far as Collision not being on TV here, it's too bad but I don't really care. If I'm going to watch it, then I'll probably be in chat and my monitor is huge. I can also put my computer screen on my tv if I want.
As far as Collision not being on TV here, it's too bad but I don't really care. If I'm going to watch it, then I'll probably be in chat and my monitor is huge. I can also put my computer screen on my tv if I want.
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Callis amplifies why Takeshita doesn't work. It just makes it all the more apparent how ill-equipt Takeshita is for that role when you have one of the most obnoxious on air performers of all time right there trying to both put himself over as well as steamroll over the guy he's supposed to be making not look like a miscast dope. Even if Takeshita was good in the role, he'd have been overshadowed so hard into just being the first stop in the Callis/Elite feud instead of being given a fair shake. The whole thing is a disaster and doesn't even have the decency to be funny.
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My guess is Takeshita sees through Callis’ chicanery and turns back within 6 months, tops.
Of course but all his momentum will be gone by then which is what sucks.
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He's done for the next year unless something special happens. Best I can hope for is that the great matches with Omega make him not fall off the face of the earth like others have.
Fuckin' at least dress him up all badass but silly and start having Excalibur talk about how he butchered a friendship.
Fuckin' at least dress him up all badass but silly and start having Excalibur talk about how he butchered a friendship.
BJ Whitmer is a piece of shit and has been immediately fired by AEW.
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BJ Whitmer has been arrested.
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TIL BJ Whitmer was employed by AEW.
Didn’t he get called out and/or arrested before for DV stuff or am I just mixing up bald generic ‘00s wrestlers?
(Brody: SCSA wasn’t generic!)
Didn’t he get called out and/or arrested before for DV stuff or am I just mixing up bald generic ‘00s wrestlers?
(Brody: SCSA wasn’t generic!)
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He was a day one hire but kept a low-key profile behind the scenes.
He was married to Kelly Klein when they were both in ROH but split up when she was cheating on him with Joey Mercury.
He was married to Kelly Klein when they were both in ROH but split up when she was cheating on him with Joey Mercury.
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I'll never trust a man named BJ.
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Yikes those are not good, and not much of a move at all since the Punk announcement.
fucking Saskatchewan getting a show and not BC is why they deserve this.
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Do you think part of the reason for Collision’s low ticket sales is because buyers are hesitant over the fact that no one knows if CM Punk won’t just flake out and leave again in a few weeks? This show could turn into another Rampage real real easy.
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People don't believe in the show and the tickets cost too much for a show that is full of castoffs and will be booked around a guy people not only can't stand but feel almost betrayed by. House of Black and Cumfart Foundation can have great matches all they want but none of it matters. It's such a great combination of terrible things.
I'm still shocked at how they fucked up Rampage. They had something.
I'm still shocked at how they fucked up Rampage. They had something.
i dont really remember rampage ever feeling like anything other than a very clear B Show except for maybe a very brief period when it first started.
There’s also the issue that these shows and towns are bunched together.
They have back to back events in Chicago, in two different venues.
Two shows in Toronto including a PPV, then you go to Hamilton, which is less than an hour away for two shows.
They have back to back events in Chicago, in two different venues.
Two shows in Toronto including a PPV, then you go to Hamilton, which is less than an hour away for two shows.
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Apparently someone didn't clue AEW ahead to the fact that summer shows in Canada are not smart as alot of folks are vacationing and generally not around in most cases....there are exceptions such as Toronto being a much bigger market and maybe Calgary drawing a decent number by the end, but some of these smaller cities just don't have the fanbase or the avalibility of whatever fanbase they have to attend because of outside factors. This might explain the bad attendance more than anything. Plus to do so many in such a certain amount of time is kinda watering down the idea of them touring up there IMO. For what its worth, the Dynamite shows are also not doing big ticket sales either in Canada. I get they want to get their name out in all these markets, and are banking on perhaps the Owen tourney to get a crowd, but the bottom line is that they are up there way too long.
Punk has moved tickets a bit to the United Center show, but its far from sold out as Forbidden Door 2022 and the Rampage from the year prior etc. They might get 10k by Saturday but we will see. The Dynamite the next week in Chicago has about half the attendance so far as even Collision so that's not selling well really either.
To a degree, the general questions about how Collision is going to be is a huge factor too and this to me seems to cement the fact that Punk is no longer this draw that maybe he once was, although I feel like even if he still was...this whole blowing their load in Canada for multiweeks isn't really proactive. The other names announced sure didn't get people scrambling to get tickets either, nor did I expect that to happen.....even if these were in the states.
Punk has moved tickets a bit to the United Center show, but its far from sold out as Forbidden Door 2022 and the Rampage from the year prior etc. They might get 10k by Saturday but we will see. The Dynamite the next week in Chicago has about half the attendance so far as even Collision so that's not selling well really either.
To a degree, the general questions about how Collision is going to be is a huge factor too and this to me seems to cement the fact that Punk is no longer this draw that maybe he once was, although I feel like even if he still was...this whole blowing their load in Canada for multiweeks isn't really proactive. The other names announced sure didn't get people scrambling to get tickets either, nor did I expect that to happen.....even if these were in the states.
People are hesitant about Collision because, when has AEW shown they know how to properly book a secondary show, without it feeling like a filler/squash/C-Level show? Hell, they can't even consistently book Dynamite week-to-week.
Look, I'm a Punk fan and a fan of the "cast-off" crew it has, but I'm not in full belief that Tony knows what he's doing or has the talent around him in the back to properly book this show or make it stand out.
Look, I'm a Punk fan and a fan of the "cast-off" crew it has, but I'm not in full belief that Tony knows what he's doing or has the talent around him in the back to properly book this show or make it stand out.
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Compounding the problem for Collision ticket sales in Canada: The show is apparently going to be buried on a streaming service there, so even if AEW knocks it out of the park with the first few shows, it’s an uphill battle.
if you get tsn then the streaming service is free and 86% of the country has TSN. My Dad even understands how to use it and he's awful at this shit. AEW's audience understands this stuff very well. The tickets are not selling because CM Punk killed himself as a draw and they haven't advertised anything else compelling. It is really that simple.
I really don't think this is true of AEW's target demo.
I really don't think this is true of AEW's target demo.
The other elephant in the room when it comes to the Canada shows is that Omega can’t be on them. Like that by itself goes some lengths to explaining why Punk can’t draw in Canada.
punk is the only "draw" listed right? It's Punk, FTR, Andrade, Miro, Rosa and who? Punk is the only proven big draw and he has seemingly killed his aura. There's no Danielson, Omega, Jericho (which wtf it's Canada), etc.
edit: NO MOXLEY
edit: NO MOXLEY