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Gay Marriage + LGBT General News and Discussion Thread - Part 2

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It'll be a Bible Belt state for sure.
 

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Texas. It'll be Texas..
 

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/appeals-court-upholds-bans-on-same-sex-marriage-for-first-time/ar-AA6Uhp6

6th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld same-sex marriage bans in MI/OH/TN/KY, which could trigger the issue coming up before the Supreme Court.
 

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Spaceman Spiff said:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/appeals-court-upholds-bans-on-same-sex-marriage-for-first-time/ar-AA6Uhp6

6th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld same-sex marriage bans in MI/OH/TN/KY, which could trigger the issue coming up before the Supreme Court.

Well this is disheartening.
 

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Eh. As Spiff says, all this really does is (likely) send the matter to the Supreme Court, which felt like an inevitability anyway. Plus, you can get a good laugh out of reading the dissent written by the circuit judge that disagreed with the majority.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/11/07/the_sixth_circuit_gay_marriage_case_dissent_is_hilarious_and_humane.html
 

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I'm not 100% certain this will come down to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling like Roe v. Wade. I think the States are gonna keep on making the move themselves.
 

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All Florida County Clerks Issuing Marriage Licenses Next Tuesday... except 14 Counties Closing Shop Instead

Following a conference call on Friday, all county clerks in the state of Florida have announced they will follow Judge Robert Hinkle's New Years Day ruling and will begin issuing marriage license to same-sex couples starting Tuesday morning.

Clerks in Santa Rosa and Okaloosa counties, meanwhile, have joined clerks in Baker, Clay, and Duval counties in discontinuing all courthouse wedding ceremonies rather than allow gay couples to use the same space for thier own weddings.

:) and LOL...
 

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Everything I've read indicates that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of marriage equality, with the worst case being that states who do not allow gay marriage will be mandated to recognize those conducted in other states.
 

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devo said:
with the worst case being that states who do not allow gay marriage will be mandated to recognize those conducted in other states.
If they do that, the issue is just going to end up back in front of them, so they p. much have to rule that all states must institute marriage equality.
 

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Ed said:
So will this be the most important Supreme Court decision since Roe v. Wade?

Could be if you think about the remaining 14? states not recognizing gay marriage + recognizance of marriage performed in other states.
 

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Harley Quinn said:
All Florida County Clerks Issuing Marriage Licenses Next Tuesday... except 14 Counties Closing Shop Instead

Following a conference call on Friday, all county clerks in the state of Florida have announced they will follow Judge Robert Hinkle's New Years Day ruling and will begin issuing marriage license to same-sex couples starting Tuesday morning.

Clerks in Santa Rosa and Okaloosa counties, meanwhile, have joined clerks in Baker, Clay, and Duval counties in discontinuing all courthouse wedding ceremonies rather than allow gay couples to use the same space for thier own weddings.

:) and LOL...

Oklahoma will do you one better.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-bill-would-put-an-end-to-marriage-licenses/article/5386633
 

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*hangs head in shame*
 

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/alabama-gay-marriage-ban-overturned
 

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ROLL TIDE IM A BOTTOM
 

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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/states-sex-education-gay-marriage

small reminder of how far there still is to go:

In Arizona, for example, two men or two women can tie the knot, but no student can be exposed to curriculum that "promotes a homosexual lifestyle" or "suggests that some methods of sex are safe methods of homosexual sex." In South Carolina, where same-sex couples have been able to marry since last year, students are forbidden from learning about homosexuality "except in the context of instruction concerning sexually transmitted diseases."
 

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Is this the catch-all LGBT thread, or just marriage related? Either way: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/02/24/3626203/lgbt-protections-ban-arkansas-texas/

As of Tuesday, it is now law that cities in Arkansas cannot pass ordinances protecting LGBT people from discrimination. That’s because a new bill became law — without Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) signing or vetoing — that limits municipalities from extending nondiscrimination protections to any class not protected by state law. Since state law does not include “sexual orientation” or “gender identity” as protected classes, nor now can any locality throughout the state. The law will officially take effect later this summer.

In addition to blocking further extensions, SB 202 likely invalidates preexisting protections in cities like Little Rock and Eureka Springs, Eureka Springs having just passed its ordinance earlier this month to preempt the bill. Tennessee passed a similar law in 2011 and though cities have since still advanced LGBT protections, their validity under state law has not been tested.

SB 202 seems to have passed specifically thanks to silence from the state’s business community. The Arkansas State Chamber of Commerce told ThinkProgress last week, “We have no position on that piece of legislation.” Walmart, which is based in Arkansas and has corporate LGBT protections, only spoke out on the bill Monday evening, mere hours before it was to become law without Hutchinson’s signature. Tyson Foods, another prominent Arkansas business that protects its gay employees, remained silent on the legislation.

It was businesses who helped defeat a similar “license to discriminate” bill in Arizona last year that was couched in “religious freedom” language. Conversely, statewide LGBT protections are actually advancing in Wyoming right now with support from groups like the Wyoming Mining Association, Petroleum Association of Wyoming, the Wyoming Lodging and Restaurant Association, and the Wyoming State AFL-CIO, all of whom argue that protecting LGBT workers will help them recruit talented employees.
 

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http://www.ktul.com/story/28189563/bill-allowing-gay-conversion-therapy-clears-house-committee

I am so fucking ashamed right now.
 

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Man... Just when I think these states can't get progressively stupider then Arkansas and Oklahoma prove me wrong.

NC Senate Approves Bill Allowing Pastors to Deny Performing Gay Marriage on Religious Grounds

The North Carolina Senate voted 32-16 on Wednesday to approve a bill allowing courthouse officials to recuse themselves from marrying gay couples if they have religious objections to doing so, the Fayetteville Observer reports.

Seven or eight of the state's magistrates have left their positions as a result of having to perform gay marriages, according to statements made during senate debate. The new law would allow them to return to office without losing their benefits.
 

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When it rains it pours..

Texas conservatives hold controversial cake-cutting over gay marriage ban: http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/State-leaders-celebrate-ten-years-without-6101014.php
 

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Harley Quinn said:
Man... Just when I think these states can't get progressively stupider then Arkansas and Oklahoma prove me wrong.

NC Senate Approves Bill Allowing Pastors to Deny Performing Gay Marriage on Religious Grounds

The North Carolina Senate voted 32-16 on Wednesday to approve a bill allowing courthouse officials to recuse themselves from marrying gay couples if they have religious objections to doing so, the Fayetteville Observer reports.

Seven or eight of the state's magistrates have left their positions as a result of having to perform gay marriages, according to statements made during senate debate. The new law would allow them to return to office without losing their benefits.

Is this about courthouse workers or pastors? If performing gay marriages in terms of filling out marriage licenses is too difficult of a job for you to do you shouldn't have that job in the first place. If a pastor of a church doesn't want to perform the ceremony I feel that's the pastor's right, even if I don't agree with it.
 

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I just have to remind myself that more and more people are in favor of gay marriage and in 20 years, people will wonder why there was so much controversy over it.
 

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/11/ontario-ndper-wants-to-block-taxpayer-funding-for-therapies-trying-to-turn-queer-kids-straight/

A Toronto MPP (Member of Provincial Parliment) is tabling a private members bill which would deny funding for any hospitals, mental health centres or therapists who practice conversion therapy. This is awesome and long overdue.
 

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Utah adds Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity to nondiscrimination bill related to housing and employment

Florida is moving a House bill that would remove a gay adoption ban from law

Oklahoma State Rep. says if a business wants to discriminate, they should be required to post a notice of who they'll discriminate against first

Study says 1 in 5 gay teens in Britain bullied by teachers or other adults at school

The survey, the largest of its kind ever conducted in the UK, questioned more than 1,000 gay or bisexual males aged between 14 and 19 about their experience of sex and relationship education in school and their knowledge of HIV, as well as asking whether they had been bullied.

More than half (55%) said they had experienced bullying and discrimination due to their sexual orientation. Of these, 99% said they had been targeted by another pupil, while 75% said they had been the victim of online bullying. More than a third (39%) said a teacher or another adult at school had been responsible.
 
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