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"Jamie Foxx as Blade" is the best way to describe Day Shift, but it's a perfectly acceptable b-movie with some great moments of action, including a GREAT car chase sequence. The highlight is probably the scene with the Nazarian Brothers, as my boy Steve Howey gets to show off why he should be given more action roles (especially welcome after he flexed his acting chops as Kevin on Shameless).
 

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Bones and All: This was certainly an intruiging film. As my usual rule, I try my best to go in blind to most films, maybe a trailer at most and a synopsis. That said, the initial trailer as well as the plot description really didn't signal that this was actually a pretty graphic film with plenty of gore (as well as really not saying this was a film about cannibals who hide their addiction), but is this horror? I dont know, but it walks a fine line between a deep romantic drama and a road trip film. It was very much unique and unorthodox in its' approach and had as many heightened emotionally intense moments as it had dark and kinda out of place stuff. The real standout to me was Mark Rylance's performance as the main antagonist. All in all, I don't know if this hit all the notes it wanted to, but it delivered to me for the most part, especially in the feel and tone. Most of the film felt like you were in kind of a fever dream state too a bit (I think to illustrate the impending need to feed for the main characters), which I enjoyed. Plus the context of the cannibalism kinda connected to a junkie needing their fix, or even as the action of cannibalism being a sort of personal handicap that you are born with, a heriditary affliction of sorts, was fascinating to see how it was done. I can't see this being a middle ground film for hardly anyone, either you are going to like or hate it passionately.
 

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Christmas Bloody Christmas: This came out over the weekend in both theaters and also via subscription on Shudder. This was a wild ride of a slasher film that plays well perhaps as a double feature with Violent Night. This was just a straight up bonkers story that was a great holiday addition to the genre. Lots of gore, language, brazen kills, and off the wall characters. Basically, the gist of it all is that a mechanical Santa becomes possessed somehow (military tech gone wrong) and goes on a murderous rampage. This felt like Terminator meets Silent Night Deadly Night to a tee. Get your ass stoned or drunk and have a ball with this one.
 

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So I did a rewatch recently of all of the Psycho films, also bought a doc from Scream Factory entitled "The Psycho Legacy" that was kinda old, but still relatively informative on the franchise. Lots of decent extras in it as well.

Looking back at these, I realized just how fucking awesome of a sequel that Psycho 2 is. It just very well may be the most well written (Tom Holland wrote it, no shock it was well done) part 2 of any horror franchise out there. Lots of fun twists and it really plays well back to back with the original, which still of course holds up well.

Then we get to Psycho 3. First off, this was so much more full of dark humor than the previous, also I thought Perkins did a solid job in directing, but the story fell flat comparatively to part 2. Still though, this is a decent follow-up to things as this plays off the events of the second film pretty seamlessly, Norman continues to kind of go further off the deep end and honestly, if the series ended here (and should have in traditional trilogy form) I would have been satisfied.

But then here comes part 4 to fuck all that up. While I appreciated they got the screenwriter from the original, by this point his stylings were dated and unmemorable. Plus he decided to ignore everything from part 2 and 3, which makes for an awkward narrative. While there was a-ha moments here and there a bit, this film was generally a real letdown, as well as kinda the wrong kind of creepy and awkward. Henry Thomas was not fit for the Norman Bates role, and neither was Olivia Hussey as Norma. She came off very pretentious and almost overacting in this role. Plus I didn't care for the overt tones of Norman's sexual affections towards her, even though that was always kinda subtext within this franchise. But in this film it was too in your face and strange. The prequal components did little for me, and the stuff that was considered sequel elements (Norman calling into a radio show as some sort of therapy of sorts to control him from killing his now wife and unborn child, cmon what is this mess?) was pretty much garbage. I guess it was fitting the finale is the old Psycho house burning down, since there was nothing left here to talk about by the end of it and certainly no opportunity for any follow up. The Norman Bates character did get fully arced here in a more positive way than things ended up in part 3, but at what cost.
 

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Pre orders for the UHD of Fulci's "City of the Living Dead" are available here and here. I'm testing whether or not I'm going to buy one (it is a bit expensive, though it's also a limited edition version, so...I dunno)
 

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I'd say skip it unless you really want a UHD version of the intestinal vomit scene. It lacks the gritty workmanship of Zombi 2 or the general absurdity of The Beyond, and that one memorable scene is all it really has going for it.
 

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Maniac Cop Trilogy: Still on my horror franchise kick, and up next it this series of wonky ass flicks. Larry Cohen wrote all of these and William Lustag (who also did the original Maniac ironically) had a hand in all three directing-wise, although the third was an absolute mess due to outside factors with the producers who wanted something different. Because of that, neither Cohen or Lustag really did the film the way they intended, and Lustag even full-on walked off the production after a certain point, leaving director credit to the notorious Alan Smithee tagline (one of the Hellraisers also went through the Smithee issue)

The first Maniac Cop I thought had the dark tone down well, but it felt from an editing standpoint kind of a mess. Bruce Campbell's role was kind of off-putting, and really, everything felt rushed, low budget, and not very cohesive. It should have been so much better, in hindsight.

The second one tried all they could to make up for mistakes in the first, and it ended up being much better and from an effects and action standpoint, much better as well. The fire sequences were pretty well done (as was the fire effects in the entire series). This felt like the movie that the first should have been. A bit of a shock that the main characters from the first basically did death cameos in this one, and then adding Robert Davi to both this film as well as the third helped the loss of that main protagonist lead when Bruce got wrote off quickly in the second one.

Then came the mess of the third one, once again as usual in movie franchises, easily the worst of the three. I will say though, this has the charm of a cult classic in a way, so bad its good in parts, unintentionally hilarious at points. Maniac Cop becoming essentially full on zombie cop (resurrected by a voodoo spell) was a bold move. But the story behind this mess of a production is certainly crazy. Here is the wiki explaining it...

"The original Badge of Honor script featured a Black detective investigating a series of murders in a hospital in Harlem, New York. As the film was already in pre-production, and Lustig had started scouting location and casting actors, the pre-sale to Japan had not come through. According to Lustig, the Japanese distributor did not want a Black lead in the film, and sought Robert Davi instead. Lustig pleaded against it, but eventually Davi was cast. "Suddenly, we had a script that didn't make any sense", said Lustig in a 2019 interview. Larry Cohen refused to rewrite the script, unless he was paid for the additional work. The producers declined to pay him. As a result, Lustig had to improvise and cut scenes from the script. "We got to a point where we shot all the scenes we could shoot, after cutting all the other stuff out of the script, and it came out to be like an hour long movie", said Lustig. "So they had to go out and shoot scenes that were just filler." At that point, Lustig walked away from the film. The film is credited to Alan Smithee. "

Moving forward, we may see this franchise resurrected via a horror series on HBO potentially someday. There is still (apparently) a plan in development for Nic Refn to produce this series but not sure where they are at with this. Certainly intruiged what his take would be on the main character for sure.
 
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I'd say skip it unless you really want a UHD version of the intestinal vomit scene. It lacks the gritty workmanship of Zombi 2 or the general absurdity of The Beyond, and that one memorable scene is all it really has going for it.
Dude, it's my favorite of his "Gates of Hell" trilogy.

Also, caved in and pre ordered it on Saturday.
 

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He came off as kind of awful in that Cursed Films series and rest in piss for those animal cruelty scenes, but Cannibal Holocaust has a great soundtrack and is a fascinating film. Though one I don't see myself watching ever again.
 
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He actually did a few fun movies such as "Raiders in Atlantis", which was a part of the Post Nuke cycle. Also did the goofy but fun "The Barbarians", which had...well, these two

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I finally watched The Black Phone since it hit Prime. The short story adaptation was there but it worked for the most part (its short runtime definitely helped). Some usual Stephen King "tropes" appeared (as expected with a Joe Hill story), but the kid actors and Hawke were solid. The mask prop design was fantastic and instantly memorable. Some harrowing scenes to get through and some intense, well-shot scenes helped make this movie a step above what it could've been. I also liked the choice of ending as it added to the arc of what happened previously and gave a sense of finality.

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This is bordering on horror so thought I'd add in here.

Another film I saw over the holiday break in a theater was another Netflix early theatrical release before dropping on the platform, called The Pale Blue Eyes. Christian Bale was in this and he worked alongside an actor who was portraying a young Edgar Alan Poe. Very dark narrative and tone in this one, but a tremendously written story that deserves some recognition for sure. Very well done twists and turns in this murder mystery that certainly had horrific moments in it. Well worth seeing when it hits Netflix tomorrow (Jan 6).
 

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Thought this'd be a fun topic for this thread... inspired by Dan Murrel's 40 Movies/40 Years Youtube video. Going from birthday to present, choose your favorite/most impactful to you horror movie for each individual year. You can either do a straight list or add a brief note with each choice. My picks coming in a future post.
 

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1985: Cat's Eye - One of my favorite anthology movies ever. I thought hard about Re-Animator but I'll watch Cat's Eye more often.
1986: House - Another where there's several "better" options but I love the creature effects in this.
1987: A Nightmare on Elm Street 3
1988: Killer Klowns From Outer Space - Just hits the right nerve for me although Hellraiser 2 is a close call.
1989: Pet Sematary
1990: Child's Play 2 - My favorite in the entire series to this day. The end set used is beyond awesome.
1991: The Silence of the Lambs - One of the movies that helped make Jodie Foster one of my favorite actresses, period.
1992: Candyman
1993: Man's Best Friend - One of those horror movies that left an impact on me as a kid. May be the movie that introduced me to Lance Henriksen too.
1994: Interview With the Vampire - Still love this movie and one that I think subtly impacted my bisexuality with peak Cruise & Pitt & Slater
1995: The Fear - Rationally, I should choose Species but this movie was one of my first movie rentals by myself and I still associate the cover with Robin Williams. The movie isn't very good though.
1996: The Craft - Come on... started my Fairuza Balk fandom alone. Although Thinner is right up there with it.
1997: An American Werewolf in Paris - There's WAY better movies I know, I know. But I saw this as a kid (before seeing the original) and I don't think it's that bad... eh...
1998: The Faculty - I will argue that this is superior to IKWYDLS. Right behind Scream as one of the most "star studded" teen cast movies of that period.
1999: Lake Placid - It's dumb but I just love this movie and have to watch it no matter what.
2000: What Lies Beneath - I remember my Mom & I being so hyped about this movie. Very underrated although the plot gets kinda stupid but it's Ford/Pfeiffer.
2001: The Others
2002: The Ring - I'll argue the superior Naomi Watts movie between this and Mulholland Drive (which I've never been a real fan of)
2003: Underworld - Made me a Kate Beckinsale fan and further confirmed my dream is to be an undead vampire clad in black leather
2004: Ginger Snaps 2 - Look, I love Shaun of the Dead but I just really like this one even if werewolves give me legit nightmares
2005: Cursed - Another werewolf movie I just really like. I think this was almost made 5-10 years too late or it'd have been bigger.
2006: Slither
2007: Trick 'r Treat - An absolute classic in the horror anthology genre
2008: Let the Right One In - One of the first movies that I really watched due to the novel it was based on. So good.
2009: Splice - I probably should put Zombieland here but Splice left more of an impact on me in a creepy way.
2010: Tucker & Dale vs. Evil - Hilarious and further cemented that Alan Tudyk is one of the best actors of our generation.
2011: Final Destination 5 - May be the best of the entire series in my book and I love the first 3 in the series a lot.
2012: Sinister - One of my favorite recent horror movies period. Ethan Hawke is fantastic. The Woman In Black probably would've made it if not for Sinister though, love that movie's atmosphere.
2013: Evil Dead - The original is a classic but I thought this was a very solid remake in an era when most remakes are awful.
2014: What We Do In the Shadows
2015: The Final Girls - One of my favorite under the radar horror movies. Just a ton of fun.
2016: The Neon Demon - One of my favorite movies and movie soundtracks, period. Elle Fanning and especially Jena Malone just clinched it.
2017: Happy Death Day - There are better movies in Get Out and IT alone but I'm all about having fun with my horror movies and this delivered.
2018: A Quiet Place
2019: Us - I actually might like this more than Get Out but I'm a sucker for doppelganger/twin stories in general and throw it in a horror blender? I'm there.
2020: The Invisible Man - A really strong remake that seems to be kind of going under the radar now that we're a few years out.
2021: Candyman - Solid remake although I probably would put Antlers instead if that had been a stronger film overall.
2022: Wednesday* - I'm cheating here but nothing is topping that show for me and I haven't seen enough of the movies I want to see to properly include a movie.
 

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Just watched Deadstream. Really wanted to like it, just never got there. I get why the lead was supposed to be annoying, but I thought the character might drop it a bit when the horror started happening… didn’t happen one bit. That part kinda took me out of it. Was better when it was atmospheric horror, lot less interesting when it got physical.
 

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I wont get too long winded (maybe lol), but still continuing on my binge of horror franchises, some bad some good...

It's Alive: Another trilogy helmed by Larry Cohen (previously did a look back at his Maniac Cop franchise). A pretty strangle trilogy of films with interesting societal concepts, but weird execution on these films. First had a bit of creepy charm and the acting (particularly from the lead, the guy who gets killed off in the second film) was atrociously hilarious. But the story behind how the first film ended up getting re-issued and re-promoted by WB after they completely shit on it years before was interesting.The second film almost had parody tones of the first, was still a pretty solid followup. The third film was pretty bonkers with strange turns in the overall storyline of the creatures kind of being treated like equals, yet there was never any mythology explored on why these babies were what they were. By the end of three though, I felt underwhelmed. Then came the remake, which I had never heard of until I started up on these. Maybe one of the most tone deaf remakes ever, Bijou Philips with a god awful performance. That one is free on YouTube and rightfully so.

Massacre Franchise: This was a wild ride of 9 films, some very hard to find but bless further YouTube rabbit holes to find them. The Slumber Party Massacre trilogy (as well as what I would call part 4 in the most recent SPM through Sci-Fi) were really fun and worthwhile (mostly connected to each other well), but getting into the offshoot series of films connected to the SPM ones....oy vey. The uniqueness of particulary SPM films is that they were all done by female directors AND writers. Even the newest one kept that tradition alive. As the films move to Sorority House Massacre, there is still an attempt with some of these to connect strangely to the original SPM with mixed results. Sorority 1 is almost an homage to Halloween in a sense, still has that same tone and feel that the SPM trilogy had. At this point was when the entire Massacre franchise hit the skids and off course.

Part 2 and 3 of SHM was done by Jim Wynorski on almost a whim, and the second part was thrown together without Roger Corman even greenlighting it beforehand. Ultimately, Wynorski went on a run with these films that were super rushed, super low budget to the max, and really super bad. Part 3 was in many ways a remake to part 2 since the story went that Jim filmed part 2 super fast (7 days) to have it ready to show Corman's wife upon a vacation away from the action. Corman apparently felt a sequel then was warranted from that piece of shit, and part 3 ended up more or less just being that. It essentially was just a remake of the second one in a different setting, with even the same actors and in the same roles generally. How fuckin bizzare. A fourth SHM was apparently directed by Wynorski, but never got released. Probably for the best. It's still being teased as being released in the near future by Jim himself.

Speaking of a fourth, then came a few films to finish off this mess with Cheerleader Massacre parts 1 and 2. The first was once again a Wynorksi film (and every one just got worse) and was originally supposed to be Slumber Party Massacre 4 until Corman changed it. There was a very loose connection in that they brought back Brink Stevens in one single scene, along with a heavy amount of flashback scenes to the first SPM. But it was one of the worst tie-ins I've ever seen in horror, and I get why Corman made the call to not make this a part 4. Wynorski didn't do Cheerleader Massacre 2, which was even worse than any of the previous films. It was beyond the D level bad stuff that was the norm here at this point.

Sleepaway Camp: This is one I'm still technically working on, as I have not been able to locate online a copy of Return to Sleepaway Camp yet so might have to throw down on a spendy DVD of it (or just keep looking online). On a side note, there is a decent amount of retrospective stuff on YouTube in short docs on the filming of each of the original trilogy (prob ripped from the Survival Kit DVD box set that's now out of print), as well as location geeks finding the original spots these were all filmed and seeing how they hold up today. The original still has that wacky and off-putting charm that holds up well, and the sequels.....well, certainly a different turn (more comedic and campy) and it's too bad the original screenwriter and director stepped away at this point, but I still had fun with them. I can't remember seeing Bruce Springsteen's sister in anything else besides these and probably for good reason as she was as hollow as fuck and insanely pretentious in her role as Angela. After some deep searching, also found a part 4 as well called The Survivor that was very forgettable and barely would I even consider it a film, more an attempt to make a film from minimal footage. It only filmed for a day and with only 3 actors in a really loose connection to the first. I guess production halted at that point, leaving this footage avaliable to be used eventually if the demand was there. Someone finally went at it and what it ended up being was half of the film (and this barely clocked in at over 60 minutes) of archival footage from the other ones, intermixed with what little was filmed. But for what it was, I guess it was cool to see them making something out of nothing.
 
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Just watched The Menu and it was really good! 7.5 to 8/10

I loved Ralph Fiennes who completely stole the movie IMO and I'm a sucker for Anya Taylor-Joy. The archetypes of the "food" types from the "average" Joe customer to the guy who watches the cooking shows and thinks they're an expert to the food snob critic... as somebody who's watched such cooking shows (thanks to my family) I loved that additional execution.

Not a lot of gore and the kills were just fine but that worked for the movie. It didn't need to be a slasher/gorefest type film as that wasn't the conceit of the movie itself. The ending still fit for me given the characters involved and what was done whilst it being somewhat of a play on the trope/fear of every super high-level chef too.
 

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"Skinamarink" is a movie I feel like I may need to watch again to fully grasp. On one hand, there are waaaay to many moments of staring at corners and dark spaces where nothing happens. On the other hand, when it works, it's unnerving and terrifying in a manner that's hard to understand but impossible to forget. Also, there's a scene with a toy phone that's one of the best jump scares in recent memory-I actually went "AAAH" when it happened.
 

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"Skinamarink" is a movie I feel like I may need to watch again to fully grasp. On one hand, there are waaaay to many moments of staring at corners and dark spaces where nothing happens. On the other hand, when it works, it's unnerving and terrifying in a manner that's hard to understand but impossible to forget. Also, there's a scene with a toy phone that's one of the best jump scares in recent memory-I actually went "AAAH" when it happened.

I went to it last night and unfortunately went in blind not knowing this was essentially going to be a montage of still images mixed with an occasionally grainy video clip. I don't know, I just didn't get this presentation at all and I couldn't grasp what I was even watching. I had a hard time with it.

As the film went on, more people left than I have EVER seen at a theater. 4 groups of two people or more within the first half hour. I gave it yet another 15 minutes after that and decided that was it for me as well. So I bailed on it 45 minutes in, knowing there was yet another full hour to go. I just couldn't do it.

I think I might check this out again though now knowing what to expect. But I'm not exactly endeared to rush out to it again to experience this arthouse confusion.
 

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Ended up catching three other horror movies in the theater over the weekend. It was one of those weekends that actually a lot of independent horror dropped in limited release in theaters nearby me and I was all in on it all.

The Devil's Conspiracy: This was one weird ass two hours I'll certainly never forget for better or worse. I don't know who financed this, but the effects and everything that went with it were pretty outrageous, including what appeared to be a pretty robust misguided budget, yet with no star power. But what a fuckin strange (yet oddly engaging) story that had many kerplunk moments of twists that made no fn sense and laugh out loud unintended absurdity at every corner. But this was a wild fucking ride of whatever this was. I guess it's an off the wall mashup of creatures, possession and other horror genre elements, religious and medieval waves like a mofo, and then throw in sci-fi/tech stuff on top of it and that's what you get here. I'd actually suggest this one if you are looking for something to just turn your brain off and enjoy. It's a fucking glorious entertaining mess.

The Offering: Another one with no star power, I didn't even peep a trailer or description before it. Basically this movie overperformed on all levels. The setting was super unique and kinda felt a bit more real and raw because of that, a Hasidic funeral home. The premise was that a demon gets unleashed inside this funeral home, and there's a lot of religious theology tied into it with the rabbis running wild, trying to contain the evil occuring. Performance were all pretty impressive as well as just the tone of this one. Really worth a look

The Price You Pay: what started as a robbery getaway spree movie turns into a crazy character-filled Wrong Turn meets TCM vibe, maybe with some 1000 Corpses mixed in a bit too. Stephen Dorff and Emilie Hirsch had some fun in these roles and it showed. The way this went from one genre to the next in a twisted grindhousy manner was impressive.
 

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Just watched Texas Chainsaw 2022 because I just wanted something under 90 minutes. I knew it was going to be bad, but didn’t expect to resent it as much as I did.

I think someone saw Halloween 2018, and just whipped up a shitty version for this franchise. Couple fun deaths, but there’s just nothing here at all. Manages to date itself more than the one that came out almost 50 years ago.
 

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I haven't felt quite as insulted by a movie as that one.
 
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