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I thought the second special (or fourth) was good until he got into the last third or so especially the Iceberg Slim stuff and then it kind of just meandered into an ending. Weakest of them all.

someone post a story about a hollywood scumbag before this becomes just a chappelle review thread!
 

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Stallone broke his silence about the accusations against him:

https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2017/12/31/sylvester-stallone-denies-rape-allegation-that-never-ever-happened/23320603/
 

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cobainwasmurdered said:
I thought the second special (or fourth) was good until he got into the last third or so especially the Iceberg Slim stuff and then it kind of just meandered into an ending. Weakest of them all.
Then you didn't get it.

On a larger note which is relevant to the thread, I entirely believe anything about Max Landis or any child of a highly famous or wealthy person. Add in situations in which one is in a position of power? Oh yeah, entirely plausible. I'm kinda glad, because this guy added nothing to his appearance on RedLetterMedia's Best of the Worst and also created a longform video essay about why HHH was the shit. Who isn't pissed at a little fuck like this, given that information?
 

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No I got it, I just thought it made for a much weaker overall show.

Max Landis the more I found out about him the more it was like "yeah seems obvious"
 

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Director Paul Haggis has been accused by 4 women of assault and rape. This one though seems to be different going by some reactions from people as they think since Haggis used to be a Scientologist and has appeared in a documentary going against and exposing it for what it is that the church is going after him now with false accusations. The other side of this angle is that maybe the Church of Scientology covered it up for him and now that he's against them... it'll all come out just what kind of man he is.
 
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Christian Slater I've heard nothing about but it wouldn't surprise me if women came out against him. Have we already forgotten that Franco tried to get a 17-year-old girl to hook up with him? When she published their text conversation online, he spun it as if she was the one hitting on him and he scoffed her.
 

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You haven't heard about Christian Slater?
From wiki:
In 1997, Slater was convicted of assaulting his then-girlfriend, Michelle Jonas, and a police officer while under the influence of drugs and alcohol. He spent over 100 days in a rehabilitation facility while out on bail and then was sentenced to a three-month term in jail followed by three months in a residential rehab center.

On May 24, 2005, Slater was arrested in Manhattan, New York, after he allegedly sexually harassed a woman on the street. A video of Slater being arrested was recorded and shown on television. Slater was charged with third degree sexual abuse and was held at the 19th precinct in Manhattan. The charges were later dropped on the condition that Slater keep out of trouble for six months.

I love a lot of early Christian Slater work but yeah, his behavior towards women is very problematic and him being there while they're screaming "Time's up!" every 5 minutes was very awkward.


Franco wouldn't shock me at all. The 17 year old girl thing was a particularly bad look for him because she told him she was 17 (and in high school) and then later he (or his publicists) tried to spin it that it was "research for a role", which has to be the dumbest excuse an actor could ever use but they still do and get away with it.
 

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When I saw that Kirk Douglas was honored at the Globes the first thing I thought was the long standing rumours about him raping an underage Natalie Wood and being a notorious member of the Hollywood casting couch "boys club" in the 50's.

Was glad to see that a lot of other people thought the same thing and called Hollywood out on it. The hypocrisy is insane.

Oh, and Rose McGowan, Asia Argento, Mira Sorvino, Rosanna Arquette and other accusers supposedly weren't even invited

I don't watch award shows anyway, it's just a bunch of backslapping and blow jobs....so forgive me if I'm not impressed by everyone wearing black and buying my Oprah 2020 bumper sticker
 

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Man I had forgotten about that Christian Slater stuff from the late 90s. I vaguely remember him discussing it on the .Stern show about 20 years ago where he brushed it off as a "typical couple fight" or something such
 

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Several women have now come out accusing James .Franco of sexual harassment. Including a woman who says he exposed himself to her in a car and pushed her head towards his crotch. And another actress said he forced her into nude scenes claiming she was being paid well enough to do so. Of course this added on tonthe story of the 17 year old girl mentioned above
 

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Then he went on one of the late night shows and said "But I didn't do anything to Ally Sheedy!" when she never said he did. She was just saying he's a piece of shit, and given that he isn't denying any of the new allegations, it sounds like she was right. It's possible she just heard/witnessed some of his behaviour.
 
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Oh look, his supporters are defending him like mad.

Like I mentioned before, if we do enough digging on everybody, we're going to find at least one story like the ones discussed. Not saying it's right, but don't be surprised if some of your favorites come out in the coming weeks/months.

On the flip side, have there been any reports of women sexual harassing men? Like, did Kathryn Bigelow inappropriately touch one of her actors?
 

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Apparently something is about to hit about Michael Douglas soon. He's already made a preemptive denial
 

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I'm kind of torn on how to react to some of this.

I think people should be called out for sexual harassment and ostracized for it. But I don't know if it should be a career ender as they can repent and turn it around.

However assault and rape I can't forgive and I feel like that's what people should be coming down the most on.

Maybe I'm thinking of it wrong but I feel like you can dredge at least one encounter up from all of our pasts that would be considered sexual harassment. Not saying it's right, but I think it's more common in everyone's life than we realized and now it's coming to light.

Of course I've always known no means no and have not crossed that boundary. But I can think of instances where I said something inappropriate to a girl that probably made her feel terrible or uncomfortable.

Semi-off topic but I'm always huge on no means no. I remember there was a girl I was talking to in college and we're at her apartment making out and things are progressing but she stops me and says no. I say okay and it didn't go any further. The next day I get an angry text from her wondering why I didn't make a move and sometimes no means yes. Sorry girl, I don't play that game.
 

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Stan Lee is accused of having groped a bunch of nurses, trying to get them to give oral sex and walking naked around them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5250513/Marvel-creator-Stan-Lee-95-accused-groping-nurses.html
 

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Epic Reine said:
On the flip side, have there any reports of women sexual harassing men? Like, did Kathryn Bigelow inappropriately touch one of her actors?

Some young girl singer accused another young girl singer of raping her. No one I've ever heard of before but google tells me the alleged rapist was a girl from The Voice, Melanie Martinez.
https://jezebel.com/pop-singer-melanie-martinez-accused-of-sexual-assault-b-1821025157

Not a Hollywood thing, but someone (a man) did #metoo a female politician.
 

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Stan Lee is accused of having groped a bunch of nurses, trying to get them to give oral sex and walking naked around them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5250513/Marvel-creator-Stan-Lee-95-accused-groping-nurses.html

I know I'm the capeshit guy so my defending Lee is expected but I have a hard time with this one for a lot of reasons. First the daily mail is totally unreliable (wikipedia banned them as a source https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website they're so bad).

The nursing company won't name itself, was recently fired and the new company says it's never had any complaints at all. The old company and it's employees haven't filed any charges or put any lawsuits forward. Lee also was robbed of hundreds of thousands of dollars before he changed nursing companies. I've seen most sites that are normally quick to jump on everything say that this should be taken with a grain of salt given the source.
 

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Eliza Dushku is claiming that the stunt coordinator on True Lies, Joel Kramer, molested her when she was 12
 

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How long before that Nickelodeon guy is outed?

Had to google his name. Dan Schneider. Been a Harvey Weinstein level open secret for years. If even 1/100th of what they say about him is true, he better keep a bottle of cyanide in his pocket until this "me too" thing blows over.
 

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CookieMueller said:
How long before that Nickelodeon guy is outed?

Had to google his name. Dan Schneider. Been a Harvey Weinstein level open secret for years. If even 1/100th of what they say about him is true, he better keep a bottle of cyanide in his pocket until this "me too" thing blows over.

The fat guy from Head of the Class that produced a millions things? I thought I heard bad stuff about him forever ago
 

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I don't know if Dan Schneider is actually guilty of sexual impropriety, but the only reason it's an "open secret" is because a poster called "Himmmm" on the gossip blog Crazy Days and Nights accused him of such crimes several years ago while also hinting that he was Robert Downey Jr. (Which RDJ denied.) There's some internet chatter alleging that he's the father of Jamie Lynn Spears' baby and that he's why Amanda Bynes went crazy, but no actual specific allegations. However, I did a see a Twitter thread a few months back detailing all the creepy shit he puts in his Nickelodeon shows, and also he worked with this guy at one time. So that doesn't look good.
 

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There was also those Jennette McCurdy vines where she was covered in fake blood in one and bruises in another, saying shit like "Dan Schneider I know you're watching...look what you did to me". A lot of the young girls he worked with have left the business traumatized.

I've had about a dozen experiences similar to the Aziz Ansari one so...yeah. I can't imagine too many women not having at least one story like that.
 

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Youth N Asia said:
Eliza Dushku is claiming that the stunt coordinator on True Lies, Joel Kramer, molested her when she was 12

I'm basically the same age as her (she's a year older roughly), and always found her very attractive. 12 yr old me would have been all over her. A 36 yr old dude molesting a 12 yr old young woman is so creepy and uncool and gross
 

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That Ansari story if true....man. I've misread the situation before and kissed a girl that wasn't interested. But when she said she wasn't interested I stopped. I didn't whip it out and demand she suck it to make everything better after she told me no. Jesus fuck it's not that hard to stop the encounter when someone decides it's too far.

I've had girls change their mind before too. Things have progressed and then they've said "you know what? I'm really not ready for this tonight. Can we take it back?" And you know what I did? Took it back or stopped. And I never gave them shit about blueballs or anything like that. Maybe I just don't have that sense of entitlement to a woman's body these guys do.
 

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One of my male friends was defending Aziz heavy. "she coulda left" is such a dumbass thing only someone who has never been in that situation could say. It's tough when you've had a fun night with someone and genuinely hope to have a friendship/relationship with a guy and he gets a little drunk and turns into this persistent leach, "playfully" blocking your exit and doing that FUUUUNNN thing where he HOLDS YOUR HEAD IN HIS CROTCH haha and you're on a tightrope trying to balance rejecting someone while being nice. And the further it goes the more scary it gets and you start imaging all the dead/missing/raped women on the news and suddenly a BJ doesn't sound so bad. Anything to get away from the situation.

To not be such a downer, most men DO take no for an answer. Kudos to you, sane decent men of the world.
 
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