Joker Spinoff Spectacular

[Baby Shoes]

Right now there are rumors that DC is going all over the place where their films because they aren't planning on staying in a sole, contained universe but now want to make a variety of stories with a variety of actor involvement. Some of this stemmed from going forward on another Batman without Ben Affleck whether that includes the same person who may replace him in another Justice League if he doesn't come back or not.

There's rumors they keep the DCEU and then make films aimed at a different audience tentatively labelled DC Black or I forget what the other similar name was but it is similar to the more mature comic line.

The other main character leading this proposed initiative is The Joker because the studio wants to pump out multiple Joker films. There's talk of a Suicide Squad Jared Leto spinoff again.

The other project that is set for filming in a few months is a Joker origin, said to mirror The Killing Joke. The film is being directed by Todd Phillips and produced by Scorsese. Joaquin Phoenix has been heavily rumored to play the lead but nothing is official yet, despite filming starting in New York in September. Right now the working title is "Romeo" so clearly that is more for filming purposes. The other big update coming out is that with Scorsese's involvement that they are working on casting DeNiro in a significant role in this film, which is supposed to be a gritty crime film taking place in 1980s Gotham.

Probably will want to split or create more threads when/if these films start getting released but right now there are six projects right now that involve Joker in some capacity - Todd Phillips Joker, Leto Joker, Suicide Squad 2, Harley Quinn solo film, Harley and Joker project and Birds of Prey.

 

[Baby Shoes]

The Todd Phillips/Joaquin Phoenix Joker film is officially titled simply Joker. The release date has been announced for October 4, 2019. Interestingly it is one month before the next Wonder Woman, which even though already filming, the Wonder Woman film will be more effects heavy. The releases being so close together is more interesting to me because both films are set in the 1980s.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Todd Philips? Uh...

 

[909]

These talks have been going on for weeks, but a deal is near and they have finally worked out the financials. As opposed to the iconic turn Jack Nicholson took in the Joker role in Tim Burton’s Batman, De Niro will be bringing his iconic status to a different role. Sources said he’ll play a formative figure in the development of the character who eventually becomes The Joker. But De Niro’s character is not a villain, I’m told.

https://deadline.com/2018/07/robert-de-niro-in-talks-for-joaquin-phoenix-joker-film-from-todd-phillips-1202431842/

 

[Fall of Epic]

Alec Baldwin has been cast as Thomas Wayne, Batman's father.

 

[Baby Shoes]

Alec Baldwin has already left the project.

Curious who gets cast now as Baldwin took the role after Viggo Mortenson turned it down.

 

[Brocklock]

Just cast Daniel Baldwin.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Marc Maron just mentioned on his podcast that he's been cast in the film. I'm glad his acting career has taken off since GLOW.

 

[Baby Shoes]

Some leaked images

http://www.justjared.com/2018/09/16/joaquin-phoenix-as-the-joker-first-look-at-standalone-movie/

 

[vivisectvi]

I don't understand what origin this is supposed to be telling. The Joker in Suicide Squad? A different Joker? Is this Earth 176.9B? Or do they not care about sewing these movies together into some sort of actual continuity?

 

[Baby Shoes]

Trey don’t. DC is doing a new approach where there isn’t continuity - especially with multiple different Joker movies. They are currently planning on treating it like comics where they have Elseworld stories separate from canon and all the different imprints. Think the are just flinging stuff until someone likes their movies now.

 

[909]

It's supposed to be an origin story, but I do also think it's Elseworlds. Which is good as sometimes I would rather see things like that, and if an actor like Phoenix wants to play the Joker, they should do it.

https://twitter.com/Complex/status/1043194409699946498

 

[vivisectvi]

Yeah, actually now that you mention it.. with the state of their main movie universe, I'd rather this be an "elseworld" thing as well.

 

[909]

I never caught these cast notes. Lol I can't see how this could be shitty considering who's in the cast and that this isn't supposed to tie into anything else.


Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck / Joker:
A failed stand-up comedian disregarded by society who is driven insane and becomes a psychopathic criminal mastermind.[2][3] Phoenix is the seventh actor to portray the Joker in a film;[4] prior to his casting, Leonardo DiCaprio had been considered.[5] Phoenix had been interested in a low-budget "character study" of a comic book character and his agent recommended that he set up a meeting with Warner Bros. to discuss, but he ultimately declined. Phoenix later became interested when the project was announced, stating, "It feels unique, it is its own world in some ways, and maybe ... It might as well be the thing that scares you the most".[6] Phoenix lost a considerable amount of weight in preparation.[7]

Robert De Niro as a talk show host[8]

Frances Conroy as Penny Fleck: Arthur's mother.[12]

Brett Cullen as Thomas Wayne:
A billionaire philanthropist traditionally depicted as the father of Bruce Wayne, who years later becomes the Joker's archenemy Batman. Unlike the source material, he plays a role in the Joker's origins and is less sympathetic than traditional incarnations.[13] Alec Baldwin was initially cast in the role, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts.[14][15]

Marc Maron as an agent[17]

 

[Baby Shoes]

While most of the focus is on the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie, which will likely be the good one, the proposed Joker/Harley one has turned in a final script.

The writers have been involved with Bad Santa and This is Us and are hoping to get the real Dr. Phil to play himself in the script they wrote.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/09/21/joker-harley-quinn-spinoff-movie-details/

 

[vivisectvi]

https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1113116381094924288

 

[Valeyard]

Much too Pagliacci.

 

[Fall of Epic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc&t=23s

 

[Youth N Asia]

This looks like it could be really good. I’m in.

 

[Brocklock]

Wow, that looks fantastic.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Looks good and Phoenix seems fantastic in the role giving it a bit of a different, almost humanistic spin in the evolution of the character.

 

[Gary]

Good trailer, but I'm still not sold on Todd Philips directing it.

 

[Brocklock]

Todd Phillips has confirmed that it will be rated R

 

[Baby Shoes]

Phillips latest statement is comic fans will likely not be happy as they didn’t take any inspiration from any existing comics and just wrote their own story about a guy becoming Joker, so not to waste time with any fan theories on things as they did no real research.

 

[KOAB]

 

[Master Thrasher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGVQLHvwOY

 

[Baby Shoes]

I’m kinda tired of hearing everyone involved in this Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie being quoted with how much they don’t like comic book movies. Do whatever you need to feel artsy and make your awards push but it seems odd to ostracize the built-in fanbase. Though they’ve already conceded to upsetting many of them with the liberties they planned to take.

 

[Fall of Epic]

I'm suspecting this will be an amazing performance from Phoenix mixed in with a really meh film. All the parts from the trailer I enjoyed are with him only.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I’m kinda tired of hearing everyone involved in this Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie being quoted with how much they don’t like comic book movies. Do whatever you need to feel artsy and make your awards push but it seems odd to ostracize the built-in fanbase. Though they’ve already conceded to upsetting many of them with the liberties they planned to take.

I'm starting to get the sense that Todd Phillips really wanted to make an Oscar-bait, pro-redpiller movie, but couldn't get it greenlit, so he glued a "Joker" label onto his script, to get it sold.

This is going to be Starship Troopers, all over again.

 

[909]

Based on the description and script, there's nothing pro red pill about this movie unless you think that a guy brutally murdering some girl because he was rejected by her is cool. Maybe 1% of the population thinks that.

This movie is far more about the Joker just being plain out fucking evil. A villain is a villain.