Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[Valeyard]

Which is objectively superior to the Stuf Stable, just because Parker was the worst part. If you have the southern shitkickers with the guy who thinks he's a king, it works much better and the matches are superior.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Stuf Stable

Someone go back in time & suggest this to Buff Bagwell.

 

[Valeyard]

It sounds better than Team Package tbh.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Frank Anderson was paid 130k by WCW in 1994 to work only WCW Worldwide tapings and commentary for the Swedish broadcast. Apparently this was justified by the Swedish channel paying them 400 K a year for TV rights to Worldwide.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Frank Anderson was paid 130k by WCW in 1994 to work only WCW Worldwide tapings and commentary for the Swedish broadcast. Apparently this was justified by the Swedish channel paying them 400 K a year for TV rights to Worldwide.

ATM Eric was making a big push for TV syndication money internationally. According to the dirt sheets, the meeting with Turner that led to Nitro being a thing was actually about Bischoff getting Ted's approval to appear on some Murdoch owned China TV thing, which would have been lucrative enough to push WCW into the black.
Rupert Murdoch and Turner had a feud.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Lawler going to WCW might create some weird off shoot Butterfly Effect where the USWA becomes the WCW training lab instead of a random bar in a Podunk, GA town.

Watts fallout is underway by the time Lawler would have signed with WCW, so Jerry Jarrett probably doesn't wind up in the Eric role, but there might be something to Jarrett booking TV sooner than later. He was a known Hogan proponent.

A lot of USWA guys went to WCW anyway, so I'm not sure how much it effects anything except maybe guys like Doug Gilbert, Brian Christopher, etc get to be cannon fodder. Jeff Jarrett likely goes to WCW in 94. Maybe he and Lawler can be the kick ass brawler team to help get JJ over. Nasty Boys vs the Moondogs. PG 13 trying to fit in with the Lucha influx of late 95 into 96. Sid has a major backer (as if he didn't already) in his 93 WCW return. Jimmy Valiant and Joe LeDuc steal the show at Slamboree 93.

 

[Valeyard]

Honestly Lawler's impact on both ECW and SMW would be fascinating if he went to WCW. Those rosters would look quite different.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Honestly Lawler's impact on both ECW and SMW would be fascinating if he went to WCW. Those rosters would look quite different.

Had the wrestling world not been in the doldrums in 93-95, there's a lot of interesting what ifs for what a feeder system could have looked like.
Crockett's non compete runs out and he tried to run the Texas HD TV tapings and some shows. He was stunned when the Rock and Roll Express picked SMW over doing more dates for him.
Texas also had Global for a bit (with TV), World Class 2: The Next Generation (With Gary Hart and Kevin Von Erich), Herbo Turbo still floating around, the AWF using the old guys like the UWF tried, etc
I don't recall if the NWF was running yet, and Tri-State had given way to ECW.
I wonder how rinky dink George South and Italian Stallion's group (PWF? IIRC) was. Those 2 seemed to just trade the title until Mad Maxxine or whatever the obese woman's name was got a push vs the men there.

I wonder if WCW made a play of Bigelow at the same time as the WWF in late 92? He had Inoki ties and he and Vader were a team in Japan. That would have been an intriguing first half monster heel push in 93. Bigelow was also one of the few new guys who sold tickets in Memphis after 1985. Booker Jarrett would have done him well.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Tom. (@notthattomgreen.bsky.social)

Today’s WCW DEEP CUT looks at Ian Weston - the enhancement wrestler who tried to shoot on Vader.

bsky.app

We need Hannibal to interview this guy over WTF the deal was.

 

[BruiserBrody]

They ran a TV taping the night after Starrcade 89 but gave the Steiners, Muta and Sting the night off. The Road Warriors only cut a promo. The fans weren't impressed.

The following night they did a house show in St Louis w/ Newspaper ads plugging Luger vs Flair for the title on top... they drew so poorly that they canceled the follow up St Louis date.

Mind you, this is still Ric Flair in command of Herd's ship. Ole wasn't ready to tank the place yet.

 

[BruiserBrody]

More post Starrcade 89 fallout: Corny wanted to bring in Tony Anthony and pair him with Cactus Jack as a team. I was against this idea off hand until I thought about how Jack was kind of just doing a sleazy biker type gimmick in the same realm as Tony. Anthony might have gotten some years in as a WCW mid card brawler and be viewed differently than he is given his mainstream career as Hopper and Uncle Cletus.
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Bob Segar also complained about Woman and Doom using "Her Strut" without paying him. So Doom got new music. This big scary masked team came down to "Great Balls of Fire" WUT!?

 

[Valeyard]

Anthony not being a WCW guy is kinda surprising. Like even after the WWF.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Kamala and I had some fun rebooking WCW based on an Instagram post of Beefcake winning the WCW title at Starrcade 94.

Hogan loses after some Vader BS/or injury earlier in the night. Butcher loses at SuperBrawl to newcomer Macho Man while Hogan/Vader feud over violence not titles. Flair is reinstated and screws Savage out of the title. Flair vs Hogan is booked for Bash at the Beach. Kevin Sullivan is seen behind the outdoor set up dragging someone from the Ocean. it turns out to be a debuting Giant, having swam from France to avenge his father.
Hogan wins the title back after Arn's interference backfires, leading to Flair vs Arn.

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This led to a slightly more serious chat on Giant being booked by Inoki as the modern Andre in 95-96 for NJPW. Shinya and Giant slappin' meat. Inoki was a bit too close to retirement to reenact his years long quest to beat Andre, but maybe a one off match could have gone down to play off the Andre feud? Inoki wins (of course) by slipping out of the choke slam into an arm lock or choke to finish the Giant.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1878834999124021271

This feels like something I should have heard.

 

[Valeyard]

See they should've thrown everything at Bruno to come in after Flair jumped in '91 so they could run Bruno/Luger in the tri state area.

 

[strummer]

I doubt Bruno knew who Russo was or was following the WCW product then and he had worked with the company in 89 and 92 so the story isn't that outlandish

 

[Hawk 34]

What he probably thought and understood was “oh Jerry’s kid is doing a thing alright Jerry’s kid would never do caca”

 

[BruiserBrody]

I doubt Bruno knew who Russo was or was following the WCW product then and he had worked with the company in 89 and 92 so the story isn't that outlandish

64 year old Bruno working a match?

Especially after he would always say he regretted his 85-87 run and how he looked like a "silly old man"

 

[BruiserBrody]

Did they have a reason Terry Taylor suddenly turned face in Oct 93 (possibly not shown until the end of November) He was working heel almost as a player coach it seems (vs Jim Steele and such) and suddenly he gets involved in a Regal vs Todd Champion TV match when Dundee interfered.

Taylor is doing commentary for the Power Hour (I assume as a heel) when he returns in Sept.

There is no context on thehistoryofwwe.com but Taylor then winds up as a special ref for Flair vs Rude at Havoc.

Taylor is also plugged to face Equalizer at Starrcade, and then the match gets shunted to the dark match but it apparently is actually mentioned at the start of the PPV.

 

[geniusMoment]

What if instead of shaking his hand Savage slaps Hogan in the face? And you have do Savage-Hogan right away after Halloween Havoc 94. Does Hogan-Savage right off the bat draw big? You scrap all the Dungeon of Doom stuff and just do Hogan-Savage for 6 months.

 

[Valeyard]

You run Hogan/Savage at Starrcade without hesitation, with either Sting/Flair or Sting/Vader under it with some stip. Put the US title on Tenta too.

 

[BruiserBrody]

What if instead of shaking his hand Savage slaps Hogan in the face? And you have do Savage-Hogan right away after Halloween Havoc 94. Does Hogan-Savage right off the bat draw big? You scrap all the Dungeon of Doom stuff and just do Hogan-Savage for 6 months.

Savage wasn't free of the WWF contract until the end of October.
Anyway...
That doesn't work for me brother. Hogan beats Savage over and over and over and Savage is neutered. Orange Goblin was no selling Vader in early 95 so Savage has no chance.
Heel Savage also leaves Vader and to a lesser extent Flair in limbo unless they are going to slum it or do their 3,700 match with Sting. Maybe Hogan can recruit Tenta to his side so we get Tenta vs Vader.

 

[Valeyard]

Flair's spot is the only one that causes real problems, but by then he was firmly buried and Hogan was in need of a new opponent anyway. Savage is always the right guy.

Heel Savage/Sting in 1995 is good shit, too.

 

[Hawk 34]

Do you reunite Sherri with Savage? Kinda obvious but also, too obvious?

 

[Valeyard]

Sure. She and Flair absolutely didn't work and enough time has passed since the Macho King days. Besides it would end up with Liz signing anyway so she can back Hogan, which is definitely in everyone's wheelhouse at the time.

 

[Valeyard]

Honestly if you have Savage as a face but do not have him and Hogan interact immediately things are pretty interesting. Let Hogan do his bullshit and run Savage and Dustin vs Stud Stable or something until they cross paths.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Butcher and Hogan were apparently a little butt hurt at the New Generation WWF marketing as Beefcake built his Starrcade main event match up as winning to set up a "new generation" on top of WCW. Hogan replied with the same term in his counter promo, and also implied Vince was calling him to get a front row seat to the match.