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Apparently 7 weeks is fully scouted so you can easily scout between 30 and 40 guys depending on the scouting department you have. I can scout 48 plus this season after hiring a scouting agency, who hopefully can fill in the gaps that my old scouting team was failing to fill. After seven weeks, you learn nothing else about the guys from what I see and some of the players you won't get any information on in that time. Some guys when you see two of their reports bad (like hands and awareness for WR) then you should just stop scouting them.

There is a 77 overall rookie WR in the FA market and he has 99 speed, 99 accerelation but a 55 for hands and a 12 for awareness. Apparently he's naturally fast but dumb as a rock with stone hands. Had Aundre Allison not turned into a special teams GOD for me last year after I sent Orton to the Vikings then he'd been offered a special teams shot. Except of course, he wanted 5 million a year. Yeah, he's not getting signed.

But thanks to the scouting, I found a few steals. Got a starting center in the sixth round after he fell from the top of the heap down there (not sure why, all his stats are solid), grabbed a starting RG in the fourth (an 85! nice!) and still managed to get my targeted Middle Linebacker in the fourth but he was low because his run coverage is average at best. He has a speed of 95 though so yeah, he makes up the ground fast. A top ten offensive linemen fell to my hands at 22 but I found out why later. His agent was an ass who took me for 22 million and apparently a really fast DE making an inside cut leaves him baffled. But I needed a new LG as well and honestly, he was worth the cash considering.

For those having troubles with future cap, I'll tell you this much that I am playing Patriot games when it comes to signing. Shrinking older players to one year deals with my cap space (can also help if you need to trade them or release them sometimes) so they will be gone next year, finding reliable solid guys in FA to fill in holes (lot of the vets will take low end deals just to re-establish themselves or have one more shot at glory if you can offer it) and working the draft to my advantage by trading down when the guy I want isn't on the board for a bit. I'm currently at 15 million under the cap and I'll be clearing another 10 million next season to either bring back Champ or send him packing for a rookie CB to join my other one.

Around 31 the guys start to decline fast. They are good stop gap players at that point but its around then you should look to the draft and then turn them into 1-3 year deals and send them on their way. Most of the time if you don't sign them, they won't get touched in free agency and you can still bring them back on a year to year while a rookie develops.

As for the subs thing, yeah that is ruining some of my plans. I have three DT's and MLB's I want to get playing time together all game but that isn't going to be possible unless I do some depth chart work in the second half of each game. I guess I could use the pre-season to try what Old said since I don't care if I win or lose those games to begin with.

Oh and the Chargers Losman era ended fast. Ruptured ACL, career ending in the first game of the pre-season. I'm not sure who they have at QB now but I think it was Rex Grossman or some rookie they drafted at last check. Carolina somehow ended up with Rivers after Jakey retired. And Al Davis is losing patience with Russell, drafting the top QB in the draft after he fell to nine (that's right, teams ACTUALLY passed on a quarterback they didn't need! I love it!) for them. Guess Ja better make it happen this year or his Raider days are dead.
 

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Also to clear something up, don't use trading block to trade players. Use "trade player" directly. For some reason, trading block occurs a cap penalty whereas trade takes none. I don't know if that is a error or maybe trade just means the other team absorbs the contract but whatever. I just noticed it while messing around with the Redskins (who are the definition of cap hell, god damn).
 

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2GOLD said:
Also to clear something up, don't use trading block to trade players. Use "trade player" directly. For some reason, trading block occurs a cap penalty whereas trade takes none. I don't know if that is a error or maybe trade just means the other team absorbs the contract but whatever. I just noticed it while messing around with the Redskins (who are the definition of cap hell, god damn).
Now you tell me :(

Snagged an A potential DE with the last pick of the last round. Makes up for all the sub-60OVR F potential duds I keep finding.
 

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Trade player will still fuck you with penalties in future years if you trade players with bonuses. I learned this the hard way as I pretty much had to abandon my franchise in year 2 with $50 million in penalties. The moral of the story is if you might cut or trade a guy, do your best to sign him to $0 bonus.
 

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Sounds like your disc got scratched. I had that happen to me with Madden 09. Would crash a few quarters into a game, and failed to install at the same % every time. (49 I think.) Pissed me right the fuck off, so you have my condolences. I made sure to install Madden 10 right away.

Although, if you know someone else with, or can rent the game, borrow/rent it, install it, and see if you can use your scratched disc to play it. Would have worked for me with Madden 09 had I not been stupid and gotten the collector's edition.
 

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It took 3 09 Collector's Editions from Amazon to get one to work consistently for me, and even then I had to install it and by some fluke managed to install it without incident.

As long as the scratch/damage isn't in the small portion read to verify the disc's existence you should be fine if you can get it installed somehow.
 

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Just rent a copy from Blockbuster and replace their disc with your own...

or buy a used copy from Gamestop, swap discs and tell 'em it was defective and get your money back.
 

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I'm waiting until the 53-man rosters are out before I start playing an offline franchise, Madden Moments and online games until then. Feels weird to me to play with a vastly different team than the Packers will actually use.

If anyone is interested in joining a second online franchise as I was saying in the other thread, I'll be starting one up with the updated opening day rosters next week. As I mentioned, there will be 7 minute quarters instead of 5, no accelerated clock and I'll take calls for what difficulty folks want it set to, although I'm considering All-Pro to keep it simple for everyone. Maybe I should start a second thread? Hmm.

I, of course, will be in as Green Bay.
 

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I might be willing to do that as well. I too find it odd to not play a new franschise/season without the correct opening day roster. Finding time to sit down and actually play the games could be tough, particularly the human-vs-human games as I only have a couple of hours each night to possibly play.

I've had my 360 for exactly nine days, too. And this is the first new Madden game I've bought since '04. So...yeah. I suck. That might count me out too as I will probably be terrible on All-Pro.

If this new franchise is created and I join, dibs on teh Cowboys.
 

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So when is the opening day roster update? I'm in the playoffs in the first year of my franchise but I'm probably going to restart once that comes out.
 

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I thought it was supposed to come out yesterday but no go yet, it seems. Once it does, franchise will start up. Hopefully it's out soon so that we can play along with the NFL season.
 

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Also, the more I play this game the more I notice all of the little things that enhance my enjoyment and all of the little quirks that keep you on your toes (receivers slipping in the rain, for example). This is in contrast to last year when those little things ended up pissing me off.
 

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So here's a question: When the next roster update comes out, and the Raiders have Seymour, will they also lack their 2011 1st round draft pick? Because I'm really hoping Madden doesn't mess with real world traded draft picks, and I'll get Seymour for free.
 

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Smues said:
So here's a question: When the next roster update comes out, and the Raiders have Seymour, will they also lack their 2011 1st round draft pick? Because I'm really hoping Madden doesn't mess with real world traded draft picks, and I'll get Seymour for free.

You get him free of charge. They never deal with picks in the future. Its only of the current. Something that still miffs me that they haven't gotten that taken care of. I want to trade my future picks away if I want to.
 

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Kageho said:
Smues said:
So here's a question: When the next roster update comes out, and the Raiders have Seymour, will they also lack their 2011 1st round draft pick? Because I'm really hoping Madden doesn't mess with real world traded draft picks, and I'll get Seymour for free.

You get him free of charge. They never deal with picks in the future. Its only of the current. Something that still miffs me that they haven't gotten that taken care of. I want to trade my future picks away if I want to.
Head Coach had it, so hopefully for 2011 it'll get in.
 

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I'd be fine with being able to trade future picks, but not so much if they reflected the real nfl trades of that nature. Some franchises are handicapped enough without already being out draft picks.
 

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Honestly, I would like that aspect. It would be awesome to really need to scrap and claw my way up from someone fucking up the team I choose.
 

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So I've run into a new problem, I can no longer save in franchise mode. I can create a franchise, but everytime I try to save it tells me that I can't save because only the gamer profile that created the franchise can save it. Despite the fact that I'm in the same profile. It tells me this even if right after I finish creating it I go directly to try and save it. Anyone else ever had this problem and know of a fix?
 

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Well I found the solution on the Gamefaqs message board, possibly the only time in the history of the internet that there was someone helpful on their forums. The problem? Having my Rockband guitar plugged in. I would have NEVER thought that that was a problem. It wasn't like it was on or anything, just plugged into the usb port. So let that be a lesson to YOU: plastic guitars and video game football don't mix.
 

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Smues said:
Well I found the solution on the Gamefaqs message board, possibly the only time in the history of the internet that there was someone helpful on their forums. The problem? Having my Rockband guitar plugged in. I would have NEVER thought that that was a problem. It wasn't like it was on or anything, just plugged into the usb port. So let that be a lesson to YOU: plastic guitars and video game football don't mix.

Yeah, fucks with the interface. The guitar plug for World Tour does that as well even if its not on.

Also, Champ Bailey totally fucked me over. I spent the whole frickin year trying to re-sign him to a three year deal for a cool 30 million, even boasted it to 45 and 65 million over 4 years against my better judgment. Totally refuses to sign a contract, so I was forced to let him walk. Then the dickhead signs a 3 year, 26 million dollar deal with the Baltimore Ravens. Granted I got lucky because there were a few good young corners on the FA market but I had to replace his 96 with a 83 Oscar Sandrick. The draft was no help, not one of the corners was graded higher than the fourth round and not one of them had a catch ability above 65 or awareness above 70 (except one who had an 89 but a speed of 75 and a tackle of 42, which meant he would get burned by tight ends and struggle to tackle a quarterback).

Course now this season, I see the best name ever for a corner. TREMENDOUS Maxwell! I don't think I'll get to draft him since he seems far and away the best player in the draft but if Madden grades him round two, he's coming to play Bronco football.
 

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You get cool names like Tremendous Maxwell, while I get players named Patrick Chewing, really making me wonder if that's just a coinky dink or if they're putting the ads into the players names themselves these days.
 

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Vonteego Cross, Turtle Reese, Maximus Johnson and Reggie Christmas are a few of the unique names I've got on my Texans team.
 

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Christian Powers was drafted by the Cowboys and the Raiders selected Ryan Luck at quarterback.

After three weeks of scouting, yeah I'm not getting Maxwell
Speed: 99
Awr: 86
Catch: 84

Unless he has injury or tackle problems, he's a stud pick. He's the first player I've ever seen with a FULL potential bar. Not even a small gap.
 
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You get cool names like Tremendous Maxwell, while I get players named Patrick Chewing, really making me wonder if that's just a coinky dink or if they're putting the ads into the players names themselves these days.

I'm sure Patrick Chewing has to be a Snickers-related thing. Man, I'm only on week 6 in my franchise.
 
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