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Something I've noticed between having NCAA and no NCAA draft when running franchises.

With no NCAA:
- Most first and second rounders are ready to play. You don't need to worry about awareness factors, nor do you need to worry about if they are reliable. You don't usually need to bench them right away.

- Finding a B potential 3rd or 4th rounder is like finding a needle in a hay stack. If you find one, more power to you. Which I find is more of a challenge.

- When you see a player, you know exactly the type of player it is. You don't need to worry about it.

- You can pretty much forget about 5th or less rounders. There's so few Cs, Ds mostly, and quite a few Fs. If you happen to stick a B, you got hugely lucky.

- Any players not drafted, usually end up on the waivers. Though, there's never any Bs, but always cheap reliable sources of back ups.

With NCAA:
- You can usually find B potentials all the way to the later 4th and 5th rounds, sometimes even 6th to 7th rounds. However, as punishment you can end up with a player who's awareness rating is in the tank or primary skills aren't there. Sure, its fine drafting a project, but when you draft a first rounder and its a project player... Yikes.

- The downside of this is that any player in the first round will be looking for money near what real position players make. This would be ok... Except if you end up with the above situation. It drives you completely insane when that happens.

- Its frustrating if you are using NCAA as a place to watch players play, and when they become eligable to be in the NFL, fall from what should be a 1st round draft pick for sure, all the way to the 7th round. And no, they don't get to be that good. I really wish they would get that fixed because I would kill for that.

- Possession receivers becoming speedy receivers (or vice versa), power backs becoming useless (55 strength? WTF?), cornerbacks have top speeds of 80s but lordy can they shut down speedsters at the line, and those are just some of the things you hafta contend with. Scouting becomes nearly a necessity. And resets. Lots and lots of resets...

- How many players end up on the FA? Well, that depends on how many fullbacks didn't get drafted. Yeah, that's right, you probably will have a ton of B potential FBs for your troubles. And not a damn thing you can do about that.

- ...well, actually, you can use them as TEs (usually rate BETTER as them) or if they aren't too bad cheap back up HBs.

And that's about it. While I prefer using the NCAA to get some more B potentials, I really dislike the facts above that I consider using the normal style more and more. Honestly, however the draft works it should work all the time unless you do a different season. Not just reloading the file.

Oh, and Shagg Makino is a person who earned the right to be in the game. There is not real life player with that name.
 

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I've snagged quite a few B potential players in the fourth round without NCAA roster, in fact my two middle linebackers are B potential and I grabbed them both in the fourth. Heck my starting center was a sixth rounder and he's an B potential. It's all about the scouting. The "best player available" according to Madden is usually hugely wrong.

I'm able to scout 36 players a season, mainly because I caught on that at week 7 they are fully scouted and you won't get more information. I focus on my need areas and scout as much as I can. What I discovered is a lot of the guys who were the top of the list in scout mode and who are really good end up near the bottom of the list sometimes. If you've scouted those guys, you know immediately you have a diamond sitting there waiting for you.

Don't let Madden fool you with the player listed on the top. He's RARELY the best player at that position in the draft.

Combine the scouting with that flow chart of information and you'll almost automatically know what you are getting. Without the scouting, good luck. You are going to get burned.
 

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I've got a franchise going where I'm just simming the first 5 or 6 seasons tobuild up a decent roster through free agency and the draft. I've gotten decent at snagging good b potential guys all through the draft. You can usually even find some that were projected to go undrafted. What's realy nice is when you get a good pick late, then lock them up for 7 years on the cheap.
 

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Mack Justice is a big black QB with 87 speed and projected to go in the second or third round... I'm gonna blow my #3 pick on him in the first round. Because his name is Mack Justice.
 

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Another problem I've run into is that everytime I load my franchise for some dumb reason it resets 'manage roster, sign free agents' and all those other similar options from manual to CPU, I forget that it does this, and when I sim through the rest of FA signing I end up with a bunch of shitty contracts loaded with bonuses that I can't unload. My goal was to have a near bonus free team, and I was about 3 seasons away from that, until I forgot about the auto-resetting options and got hosed. Very annoying, and I'm thinking I'll start yet ANOTHER franchise mode in my quest for a bonus free time.

Another thing on the draft: I've found that you can still get good players and save a lot of cash by not drafting high in the first round. And that you can trade your 1st round pick only down one spot, and get a 3rd and 4th rounder in exchange. So I tend to trade my way down the first round until I'm out of the pricey area, and I end up with a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick, and 4 3rd rounders and 4 4th rounders.
 

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Why not just make sure your save your changes so you could go back? Every time I'm about to sim through anything in the game, I always save first. Madden's done that sort of stuff for years.
 

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The problem is I forget to check on that before I save something and end up saving the CPU's shitty signings.
 

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There are good potential players late. I snagged an A potential DE with the Mr. Irrelevant pick. Damn if I can remember his name though. De'Joshua something or other.
 

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Question and sorry if this has already been asked yet but since the season started is there an update to update the current rosters for franchise mode?
 

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I think the REAL TSM league is using the season opener rosters, but that's as updated as it gets. Haven't heard anything, and as a Panthers fan I'd know it because Delhomme is dropping to somewhere in the 60s in the next update.
 

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You've gotta go outside Franchise mode to upload to EASW, but damn if I can remember exactly where it is now that I'm nowhere near my console.
 

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Best one I've had so far is Ed Reed picked off Harrell and started to run it back, he does a juke move when back at the line of scrimmage on the run back.

Suddenly HARRELL comes flying in, nails him, Reed fumbles and Moreno recovered for me. Reed was out for the game and later I checked to see what damage Graham did to him, figuring it was one game. Ed Reed, broken collarbone..now that's getting jacked up!
 

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Fuck the damn EA servers. My official record is listed at 4-6 with a 20% DNF rating. I was winning both damn times, and the servers decided to disconnect me and say I quit. Fuck them bitches.
 

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fazzle said:
Fuck the damn EA servers. My official record is listed at 4-6 with a 20% DNF rating. I was winning both damn times, and the servers decided to disconnect me and say I quit. Fuck them bitches.

Still beats my record, with my whopping 3 points for and 28 points against (if you don't count the game where the guy quit halfway through and I STILL had to go to overtime to beat the Broncos).
 

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2012 Must be the end of the world, because the Detroit Lions are 11-0 so far, and Kevin Smith is 4 TDs away from the NFL record. I do not know how this happened, as all my other seasons I ended 6-10. 9-7, 8-8. Smith isn't even an elite RB, he is an 88 overall. Not exactly a bruiser, not exactly a speedster.

The focus of most of my drafts has been defense, and so far, so good. The linebacking core is all drafted players, none higher than 3rd round, and yet I've got a 90 overall LOLB, an 85 and 82 ILB core, and Ernie Sims at 88. I have a monster of a DT I drafted in the 4th, who is in the running for DROTY. The previeous year i drafted a RE in the 1st round that is killing, along side mathias kiwanuka(my one big free agent signing). I lead the league against the run, but fairly weak against the pass. I'm in the mid-20s in terms of giving up pass yards but ranked 2nd in INTs. Stafford, who was a gunslinger the last few seasons(averaging 30 to 35 tds, and 20 to 25 ints a year) is in full on game manager mode now. Both of my top WRs are out for the season (Calvin Johnson broke his back(!!!) in week 2, Jacques Johnson, a 3rd year wr I drafted, broke his leg) So it's all about the dink and dunk. I've been very good drafting so far, since I only draft people I've scouted. I've manged to get a steady supply of RBs in the 6th and 7th round to back up Smith, a 90 overall FB in the 7th, and a monster of a center in the 5th.

Ted Thompson must be running the packers still, too. They no longer have Rodgers, Bigby, even Raji is already gone. They're the worst team in the NFL, and I've burned them with my running game so far. Last game Smith had 149 yards, 3 tds on 17 carries, and his backup Cates had 87 yards 1 td on 10 carries. And then HIS backup had 45 yards 5 carries for 1 td. hell even the fullback burned them, 3 carries for 28 yards, a 1 td and 65 recieving yards and a td. i think I threw the ball 5 times the entire game.
 

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2011 must be the year that Trent Edwards' body falls apart.

So far through 3 games he's been injured FOUR times.


...he also has a passer rating of 148.2, so it's all good
 

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2011 must be the year that Trent Edwards' body falls apart.

So far through 3 games he's been injured FOUR times.


...he also has a passer rating of 148.2, so it's all good

On how many attempts though? Guy might just be throwing touchdown drives and getting hurt.

Also fuck the Raiders. Every other team in the NFL I can manhandle the defense except some of the obvious ones like NE, Baltimore and even they don't cause me turnover problems. Graham Harrell MAYBE would throw one pick against those teams and that's usually one of those garbage "hit as throwing ball lofts" hits.

Then every FUCKING YEAR TWICE A YEAR along comes the god damn Raiders. No matter how much they suck, their defense turns into the fucking Steel Curtain against me. Harrell has had two games where its been 3 INTS each because they were jumping the routes and hasn't had one game where he threw under 2. Moreno averages 80 yag against them, he's usually a 110 yag average back. I swear if it wasn't for their offense being owned by the defense (pick 6 and fumbles inside the 20 galore) then I'd be fucking dead against them. They have become a thorn in my side and I DREAD the day they get good offensively because they will murder me.

I've tried a pound the ground attack, failed
Air it out, failed
Balance, failed
Ball protection no risks, MASSIVELY failed

Does anyone else have a team you know should NOT be giving you problems every season but for a reason you cannot explain they are making you a living frustration?
 

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2GOLD said:
fazzle said:
2011 must be the year that Trent Edwards' body falls apart.

So far through 3 games he's been injured FOUR times.


...he also has a passer rating of 148.2, so it's all good

On how many attempts though? Guy might just be throwing touchdown drives and getting hurt.

He's actually up to a 150.3 now through 4 games.

Only 980 yards and 9 TDs, but has completed 81% of his passes with a 12.3 yards per attempt average
 

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That's it I am fucking DONE with franchise mode. So this time through I made sure everytime I loaded it up that nothing was set to be auto done by the CPU. But silly me I forgot to check before I saved once, and the cock sucking piece of shit set everything to CPU between the time I loaded up the file and saved it, re-signing a bunch of fucking players I already had under contract to large contracts with large bonuses. Hate EA, hate EA.
 
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