Mass Effect 3

[Sabre]

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Indeed, the co founder of Bioware has stepped in and essentially hinted at DLC soon folks, get your credit cards ready.

Which is a shame really, bioware clearly did this knowing DLC was coming, but at the same time should not be pressured to changing their artistic views in the ending to suit the fanbase, and lets be honest NO ONE will get the ending they want, as everyone wants a different outcome.

But as long as i can build tali her beach house, im set.

 

[vivisectvi]

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Oh I agree 100%. None of this shit should be done through DLC that we have to pay for. Extra missions and other stories, fine. But to wrap up the main story in an extra piece of content that should've been on the game disc is just bull. Granted, I'll still buy it, but still!!

 

[Sabre]

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Oh im a sucker for DLC that continue stories, so ill be day oneing the fuck out of it all.

Hell i think ME2 ended up costing me a fortune.

 

[A Happy Medium]

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The problem with EA and BioWare charging for the ending to the game is that there will definitely be a follow up by the BBC and other news organizations. They had better be careful.

 

[vivisectvi]

If they're smart they'll make it free. (not that they should have to, but it's probably the best move in terms of publicity -- though I still don't agree with having DLC that continues the story that should've ended with on-disc content)

EDIT: That being said, I still don't have that much of an issue with the ending. You get onto a slippery slope when you start asking artists to change their vision and their work just because you didn't like where it went. It'd be like asking George RR Martin to rewrite one of his novels or asking Robert Kirkman to un-kill a character just because you didn't agree with it.

 

[KingPK]

Man, I hate the internet. The ending is the fucking ending.

 

[muzzington]

I was led to believe they weren't changing it or making a new one but answering some questions about the aftermath.

 

[Sabre]

Man, I hate the internet. The ending is the fucking ending.

That's the thing tho. It

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Didn't really end anything.

 

[A Happy Medium]

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I'm still banking on indoctrination with closure coming out via free DLC.

And "Gamer entitlement" is a stupid catchphrase being tossed around by people who are out of their element.

An ending that wasn't "A, B, or C" was also promised by the executive producer, along with closure for customers. They have a right to bitch as consumers of a product that didn't deliver on its advertised functions. This is all I'm saying on the matter.

 

[Sabre]

Did they ever state that said promises would be fulfilled without DLC?

 

[Mik]

Just started Mass Effect 1 and am zipping through it. Just got to the decision point w/ Wrex last night. Will probably finish this weekend and move right in to 2.

Spoilers for Mass Effect 3 are everywhere and I guess knowing the ending sucks ahead of time isn't that bad because I won't be disappointed. I've avoided these games like the plague because I'm not a fan of "space" things but it's quite fun. From what I hear 2 and 3 have improved gameplay (can't wait for a map that actually works!).

 

[Sabre]

... there is no map in 2+3 unless im blind and never used it.

 

[Cerebus The Aardvark]

... there is no map in 2+3 unless im blind and never used it.

In 3, if you go to the in game menu (Start), Map is an option for certain areas. On 360, pressing down on the R stick also brings up a map if one is available, and if not, it shows a location arrow on-screen for your next checkpoint.

 

[KingPK]

You know, the whole "Donate to Child's Play to force them to change the ending!" thing is really reprehensible to me, especially when people that realize this isn't an official thing are trying to get their money back. I mean, fuck you.

 

[Cerebus The Aardvark]

It's incomprehensible to me that people are this cunthurt over something so ridiculous. The last 5 minutes, if you feel it sucked, does not negate your previous 100+ hour commitment to the game in any way; if you didn't hate the series while playing it, there's no reason to hate all of it now. I just wish they would grow up and/or shut up.

Trying to get them to change the ending is the most idiotic "movement" I have ever seen. I already hate the fact that movies do test screenings that influence changing endings and such; if games are going to go that route, I'll just fucking bow out.

 

[LPM]

That's not always true though. If a piece of media doesn't have a conclusion that resonates then it does affect the rest. Look at Lost, a lot of people loved that show until the crap ending. Same with Battlestar Galactica. Both of those shows always said that all questions would be answered though, which ME3 never did (as far as I know).

I didn't think the ending was that bad, especially if the indoctrination theory is true.

 

[Edwin]

Um, I have no issue with the ending, but the mechanics of getting there don't make any sense.

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I was walking around the area where I suppose I had three choices? I walked off to the right to see what was over there, and got locked in place with only an option to shoot some piece of the machine, which...was choosing destroy?

Terrible gameplay mechanics. I didn't pick up any signposting as to what was supposed to be happening. Also, I now see that immediately after the ending, it reloaded me to just before the

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attack on the Cerberus base.

What the hell is going on here?

Edit: Nevermind. I see, watching it on youtube now, that there were some indications about the choices. I just didn't recognize them because I hadn't seen the actual places you go yet. I guess the save reload is just something it, uh, does.

Also,

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Shepard still being alive in London--which apparently only happens if you have enough war assets--suggests that this "indoctrination theory" stuff is right. I thought something was up when I saw him bleeding from the same place he shot Anderson while under TIM's influence. Bold decision by Bioware if they really didn't end the damn game.

 

[Cerebus The Aardvark]

I guess the save reload is just something it, uh, does.

It's so you can play postgame DLC missions that come along.

 

[Edwin]

Yeah, it was just weird going back there.

I still don't know what to make of it. It either is completely weird and "oh god, we need a way out," or brilliant but prickish, since they're using it to sell DLC. Of course, if Bioware goes out and announces a surprise 20-hour expansion a la DA: Awakening, I'm on it.

 

[Sabre]

The three choices

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where explained rather shittily during the child like empresses explanation of how to stop the reapers, the potential endings all got a small cutscene with said colour of what would it would lead to.

Also, Mass Effect 2 did the same time warp shit, with you being put back before the omega 4 relay to let you do the DLC and replay the endings with any extra characters.... i think.

 

[A Happy Medium]

After ME2, you can just cruise around The Milky Way and dick around. One really eerie part was going into the armory, and Jacob isn't there because you may have "accidentally" sent him through the vents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go-9Dp55TvY

 

[Sabre]

I did find the ending if you killed some peeps in ME2 errie with their coffins etc sitting in the hold. Espeicially if one of them was your love interest.

 

[Edwin]

Did you guys pick up on some of the rather upsetting incidental conversations throughout the game? I'm thinking specifically of the PTSD Asari on the Citadel and her connection to your team, which I only figured out after a fairly late in the game conversation.

For all the "bluh?" of the ending and how useless the whole Military Strength thing ends up being, just about everything before it was tremendous.

 

[Sabre]

The cutscene where the normandy warps into earth with all the other Fleets was the greatest 4min cutscene of the game. It was fucking epic.

 

[Edwin]

Also, "defend the missiles" with about half a dozen banshees, brutes, and ravagers while endless cannibals poured in aaaand a reaper was advancing on me shooting his death laser was one of the crazier game sequences I've had the joy of playing.

Also, a small thing, but:

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why didn't Shepard send someone to Ilos to try to reactivate the conduit to the Citadel relay once the Citadel arms were closed? Seemed kind of odd not to think about that since the whole end of the first game followed a very similar template.

 

[LPM]

Also, a small thing, but:

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why didn't Shepard send someone to Ilos to try to reactivate the conduit to the Citadel relay once the Citadel arms were closed? Seemed kind of odd not to think about that since the whole end of the first game followed a very similar template.

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I think Ilos was basically shut down by the end of ME1. The Prothean VI there basically was about to die, it just had enough juice to send Shep over to the Citadel and that's it.

What was the PTSD Asari's connection to the Normandy crew? I thought her story was neat but I didn't see anything beyond that. I also authorized her the use of a gun and she ended up killing herself. Whoops.

 

[Edwin]

PTSD Asari:

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She talks about having to kill a girl named Hilary and her indoctrinated parents to keep the reapers from finding them, after spending several days in hiding with Hilary. The girl wanted to be a pilot, and they were on a farm on a small colony in the middle of nowhere. That's how Joker describes his parents' home, and his sister, nicknamed Gunny, is actually named Hilary.

When I made the connection, during a conversation after the Thessia mission, I was pretty dumbstruck. And glad that there was no option to bring it up.

 

[LPM]

Hahaha wow. I did not expect that.

Geez, now I wonder what else I missed.

 

[Sabre]

Ive bit the bullet and started a ME2 renegade femshep playthrough (I would do a ME1 but since ive moved to the PS3 no real point). I wonder how the story will differ.

 

[vivisectvi]

I already have ME1 on PC, but before that I had ME2 on PS3 (and of course now ME3 on PS3).. but anyway, I was thinking of double dipping on ME2 (and eventually 3 when it's on sale, probably next year) to get the full experience of all three games crossing over from the previous to the next. I haven't really played ME1 yet.. is the makeup of the game significantly different from the console versions?