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I'll still probably pronounce it "seek" despite knowing better.
I'll still probably pronounce it "seek" despite knowing better.
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Big Papa Paegan
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"What would drive a racist to commit a racially-motivated crime?!"
"What would drive a racist to commit a racially-motivated crime?!"
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It's easy (and fun!) to make jokes like that but it isn't really that simple usually. Why he targeted Sikhs (and the temple in particular) instead of some other group and what led him to go over the edge?
It's easy (and fun!) to make jokes like that but it isn't really that simple usually. Why he targeted Sikhs (and the temple in particular) instead of some other group and what led him to go over the edge?
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I heard that all the evidence of his racism (flags, tattoos, clothes, statements, etc) was all a ruse by Obama to help the Muslim Brotherhood (who, of course, are really just Sikhs in disguise).
I heard that all the evidence of his racism (flags, tattoos, clothes, statements, etc) was all a ruse by Obama to help the Muslim Brotherhood (who, of course, are really just Sikhs in disguise).
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I read something like that too! Under the question "where will the next mass shooting take place?" I saw the answer "Wherever Obama stages one next". Some people need their reality button reset.
I read something like that too! Under the question "where will the next mass shooting take place?" I saw the answer "Wherever Obama stages one next". Some people need their reality button reset.
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It was obviously because those black Christians were actually plotting the future Dictatorship by the Kenyan-born Muslim Brotherhood agent Barack HUSSEIN Obama bin Laden.
It was obviously because those black Christians were actually plotting the future Dictatorship by the Kenyan-born Muslim Brotherhood agent Barack HUSSEIN Obama bin Laden.
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Oh shit, that would have been right around the time that Baby Obama (or the Baby Jesus as Libazis like to say) was orchestrating the plot that would include wiring a birth notice from Africa to Hawaii, obtaining a Connecticut social security number, & becoming the (black) guy that will turn our perfect nation to communist socialist progressive marxist terrorism.
There is simply no way that retarded white racists would ever attack other people because they have been taught they are different than them, and different means bad.
Oh shit, that would have been right around the time that Baby Obama (or the Baby Jesus as Libazis like to say) was orchestrating the plot that would include wiring a birth notice from Africa to Hawaii, obtaining a Connecticut social security number, & becoming the (black) guy that will turn our perfect nation to communist socialist progressive marxist terrorism.
There is simply no way that retarded white racists would ever attack other people because they have been taught they are different than them, and different means bad.
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I went to Illuminights at Busch Gardens the other day. That'd be easy pickings. Everyone's standing on a narrow bridge, looking at one part of the sky, loud noises, music, it's dark...could rip a whole clip into a crowd, or set up shop, get at least a couple dozen with a silencer.
Maybe Mardi Gras? Lot of distracted drunks, tired frustrated cops.
Kids sporting events. No security, easy targets, only risk would be parents packing.
Plenty of possibilities. Morbid and awful to think about, but hey.
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I went to Illuminights at Busch Gardens the other day. That'd be easy pickings. Everyone's standing on a narrow bridge, looking at one part of the sky, loud noises, music, it's dark...could rip a whole clip into a crowd, or set up shop, get at least a couple dozen with a silencer.
Maybe Mardi Gras? Lot of distracted drunks, tired frustrated cops.
Kids sporting events. No security, easy targets, only risk would be parents packing.
Plenty of possibilities. Morbid and awful to think about, but hey.
Big Papa Paegan
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Actually, thinking about things like that may make you more prepared in case it happens. You need to don a mask and be a vigilante now.
Actually, thinking about things like that may make you more prepared in case it happens. You need to don a mask and be a vigilante now.
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Also, thanks movie-theater shooter asshole, you totally ruined a script idea I had for a slasher-ish movie about a guy running around a multiplex during some crowded midnight shows with a silenced gun.
We're lucky none of the spree killers have figured this one out yet. Admittedly, it's harder than it sounds; check out Youtube clips, most sound-suppressed weapons are still loud as fuck and sound like gunshots. But a few of the really nice ones are freaky quiet. If someone managed to sneak a good suppressed gun and a ton of ammo into somewhere really crowded which would be difficult to evacuate in a hurry, like a big sporting event or Comic-con or something like that, they could put a frightening number of bodies on the ground before most people even realized that anything was happening.Agent of Oblivion said:
Also, thanks movie-theater shooter asshole, you totally ruined a script idea I had for a slasher-ish movie about a guy running around a multiplex during some crowded midnight shows with a silenced gun.
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It matters to the number of corpses versus live people afterwards. Try this shit with a lousy homemade silencer, and everyone nearby will be all like "oh fuck, those are gunshots!" and run away just like with any other shooting. The really terrifying idea is that a gun nut who really knows what he's doing could use good equipment and stake out a hunting ground where he could murder a practically endless stream of victims. With mass shootings, you generally don't get literally dozens of people killed, unless it's a situation like Virginia Tech where a bunch of victims just sat there sheep-like waiting for their turn.snuffbox said:
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Jingus seems to have put way too much thought into a mass shooting.
Jingus seems to have put way too much thought into a mass shooting.
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Or a theater filled with tear gas. Or a religious service. Or a clocktower at the biggest university in Texas.
Again, real life is not a Bronson movie. It can be frightening, confusing, basically a huge awful clusterfuck. There is no script or ordained superhero character. There's not going to be some bathroom-mirror preening dipshit that will save the day like he's Chuck fucking Norris just because he can hit a target out at the ol' trap shoot.
Or a theater filled with tear gas. Or a religious service. Or a clocktower at the biggest university in Texas.
Again, real life is not a Bronson movie. It can be frightening, confusing, basically a huge awful clusterfuck. There is no script or ordained superhero character. There's not going to be some bathroom-mirror preening dipshit that will save the day like he's Chuck fucking Norris just because he can hit a target out at the ol' trap shoot.
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Like I said, I wanted to write a script about one at a movie theater. I already had a synopsis planned, but obviously there's not much point in continuing with it now.CWMwasmurdered said:
...who are you saying this to? Nobody's taking the opposing side here.snuffbox said:
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That post was directed at Jingus and Agent of Oblivion. If you're trying to make a "point" about how you could be a better assassin rather than how you could save the day, you're still an unrelenting idiot who cannot tell the difference between the tangible world in front of you and the flickering box in front of your couch.
That post was directed at Jingus and Agent of Oblivion. If you're trying to make a "point" about how you could be a better assassin rather than how you could save the day, you're still an unrelenting idiot who cannot tell the difference between the tangible world in front of you and the flickering box in front of your couch.
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And that's nothing personal against Jingus or Agent, I like both of you. But if I'm going to be a goddam dick about CWM's confusion about a white racist attacking a minority community, I'm going to be a goddam dick about people taking a moving picture perspective towards the situation, be it as the assassin or as the superhero.
And that's nothing personal against Jingus or Agent, I like both of you. But if I'm going to be a goddam dick about CWM's confusion about a white racist attacking a minority community, I'm going to be a goddam dick about people taking a moving picture perspective towards the situation, be it as the assassin or as the superhero.
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What the fuck are you babbling about? There are plenty of real-life examples of people doing the exact kind of shit that we're talking about, mostly in wartime situations. There's a reason why sound-suppressed weapons exist in the first place.
What the fuck are you babbling about? There are plenty of real-life examples of people doing the exact kind of shit that we're talking about, mostly in wartime situations. There's a reason why sound-suppressed weapons exist in the first place.
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Idle musing, but you can argue about it if you want.
Idle musing, but you can argue about it if you want.
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What. The fuck. Are you babbling about? What part of this doesn't exist in real life? Guns? Silencers? Crazy people who want to kill a whole bunch of strangers for no good reason? Which bit am I making up?snuffbox said:
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I love this board.
I love this board.
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And I apparently know more about it than you do, considering that you keep using the wrong term for it. Genuine gun experts never call them "silencers", they're called "suppressors". You also never mention what sort of firearm they're using, what caliber it is, if it's loaded with subsonic ammunition, the background noise of the shooting location, the acoustics of the same, and a variety of other important variables.
Another important factor is simply the quality of the equipment. Most suppressors are either homemade garbage or not well-suited to the weapon they're being used with. But there is such a thing as custom designed, expertly crafted suppressors which genuinely do muffle the sound of a gunshot to frighteningly quiet levels. Check out these examples:
Supressed AR, with SubSonic Loads
Suppressed .223 rifle with ultra-quiet Ciener can
Glock 26 with home made supressor
There's plenty more videos on Youtube if you poke around, where the suppressed gunshot is quieter than the shell casings hitting the ground or the shooter talking or any number of other ordinary sounds. There's also plenty of videos where the suppressor is a piece of crap and the report sounds exactly like a fuckin' gunshot, but I've already been mentioning that repeatedly.
You do know that I already said that halfway up the page, in the very first post that you objected to, right?snuffbox said:
And I apparently know more about it than you do, considering that you keep using the wrong term for it. Genuine gun experts never call them "silencers", they're called "suppressors". You also never mention what sort of firearm they're using, what caliber it is, if it's loaded with subsonic ammunition, the background noise of the shooting location, the acoustics of the same, and a variety of other important variables.
Another important factor is simply the quality of the equipment. Most suppressors are either homemade garbage or not well-suited to the weapon they're being used with. But there is such a thing as custom designed, expertly crafted suppressors which genuinely do muffle the sound of a gunshot to frighteningly quiet levels. Check out these examples:
Supressed AR, with SubSonic Loads
Suppressed .223 rifle with ultra-quiet Ciener can
Glock 26 with home made supressor
There's plenty more videos on Youtube if you poke around, where the suppressed gunshot is quieter than the shell casings hitting the ground or the shooter talking or any number of other ordinary sounds. There's also plenty of videos where the suppressor is a piece of crap and the report sounds exactly like a fuckin' gunshot, but I've already been mentioning that repeatedly.