Microsoft Prattle v2

[vivisectvi]

Hmmm.. "The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)" - I've been running Steam in offline mode for months and have had no issues playing my games that don't require online.

"Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$." -Most console releases are usually only $10 cheaper on Steam. In some cases they're the same $59 price..

 

[bps21]

I think the real genius of what Microsoft has been able to do here is that they managed to piss off everyone. None of these new things really affect the way that I play games now...I'm the exact consumer who this stuff would bother the least...and I'm pissed. And the best part is that I thought they actually had a great slate of games to show off...and no one cares about that because they are such stupid stupid people who are bad at communicating (likely because there are no good answers).

The guy that made Fable had a great quote where he said if they could just explain to people the benefits of why they've made these changes...in the end people would just be like...cool...and stop caring.

But they can't because I really don't think there is anything they can say that will make people understand any of this. Someone should ask them that if, in their wildest fantasies, everything goes in their best case scenario and you can get a digital copy of...say...Kingdom Hearts 3, 8 months after launch for 5 dollars cheaper than you could have gotten it at Gamestop... Was it worth it? Really? Then just keep asking really until they say no and charlie brown walk out of the room.

 

[vivisectvi]

Oh snap. MS has the US Military on their ass now: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590451

“I don’t have additional details to share and can’t speculate on workarounds at this time,” wrote Xbox rep Danica Stickel in an emailed response to questions, repeating the suggestion that troops could just use the 360 instead. “Although we’re very excited about Xbox One, we remain dedicated to Xbox 360 now and for years to come. In fact, we are expecting some of the greatest blockbusters of 2013 and 2014 to come out on Xbox 360.”

 

[sbofn]

“I don’t have additional details to share and can’t speculate on workarounds at this time,” wrote Xbox rep Danica Stickel in an emailed response to questions, repeating the suggestion that troops could just use the 360 instead. “Although we’re very excited about Xbox One, we remain dedicated to Xbox 360 now and for years to come. In fact, we are expecting some of the greatest blockbusters of 2013 and 2014 to come out on Xbox 360.”

Except Dead Rising 3, asshole.

 

[KingPK]

I agree with the analysis that says MS is looking towards the "all-digital, all in one" future, but are grossly overestimating how ready people actually are to get there. Especially when they don't seem to know how to effectively get their message across without sounding completely crazy.

 

[bps21]

It is kind of funny that what reads and drunken curse filled ranting makes infinite more sense then their actual responses.

 

[vivisectvi]

Somehow got yourself banned from XBL? Say goodbye to your XBONE games/licenses!

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/345338828606812160

..and you don't even have to have done anything ON XBL to get banned from it.. check this out:

http://wmpoweruser.com/watch-what-you-store-on-skydriveyou-may-lose-your-microsoft-life/

Dutch user ‘WingsOfFury’ had uploaded 9 GB of content, and suddenly found his Windows Live account suspended, meaning he lost access to his Hotmail, Xbox Live, could not purchase apps and could of course not upload anything to SkyDrive.

After contact with Microsoft support he found out that his account was blocked because there was a folder on his SkyDrive that contained content which was not allowed by the code of conduct of Microsoft SkyDrive. The folder was a private folder, not shared to anyone else.

 

[vivisectvi]

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

Dutch user ‘WingsOfFury’ had uploaded 9 GB of content, and suddenly found his Windows Live account suspended, meaning he lost access to his Hotmail, Xbox Live, could not purchase apps and could of course not upload anything to SkyDrive.

After contact with Microsoft support he found out that his account was blocked because there was a folder on his SkyDrive that contained content which was not allowed by the code of conduct of Microsoft SkyDrive. The folder was a private folder, not shared to anyone else.

Hooray for integration!

 

[Damaramu]

They said they plan on still supporting the 360? How long does it typically take after a new console comes out for games to stop being made for the old one? I seem to remember PS2 games for a while after the PS3 while the XBox just died.

 

[Baby Shoes]

In the last generation, Xbox trickled out games for about a year or two (2006-2007) and then just did like Madden for another year after that, although in very scarce quantities.

PS2 was still releasing a few games not available on other consoles and a fair portion of games until maybe 2009, 3 full years after release.

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

There's also production of the consoles. Seemed like Xbox stopped almost immediately, while PS2s were still being produced until this year.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/04/playstation-2-manufacture-ends-years

 

[KingPK]

The XBox really wasn't destined for success; it got Microsoft's foot in the door and not much else. The PS2 was a goddamn juggernaut.

I think both the PS3 and 360 will be strongly supported for at least the next 2-3 years while holdouts (like me) see how the new consoles shake out.

 

[vivisectvi]

Welp.

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/dead-rising-3-reaches-for-the-call-of-duty-crowd-6409900/

Capcom Vancouver presented Dead Rising 3 behind closed doors, walking us through the demonstration that debuted during the Microsoft press conference while answering questions about the direction that they've taken. The changes that you can see in images were not a fluke. Capcom is pointedly trying to appeal to a wider audience in this latest iteration, saying it's going after the Call of Duty player. Gone is the cartoonish visual design, replaced by a more "realistic" interpretation of a viral apocalypse. That change is part of the maturation. By shifting the art style, the combat can be "more visceral" than in previous versions, with "real gore."

 

[vivisectvi]

Jesus Christ, this company needs to come up with some consistent messaging and key points that all of their marketing/PR/service people should stick to. This is like some basic marketing 101 shit they are failing miserably at. http://kotaku.com/microsoft-cant-tell-us-if-the-xbox-one-is-region-free-513494440

Possibly their current marketing dept:

 

[vivisectvi]

Guys, it's over-delivering on value now! http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/xbox-boss-says-500-xbox-one-is-over-delivering-on-value-name/

"We're over-delivering value against other choices, I think, consumers can get. Any modern product these days, you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think that they're going to love it when they use it."

;D ;D

 

[bps21]

I'd like to be mad about the price but I spend most of my time reading the internet on an 800 dollar iPad I bought because I'm too lazy to sit up and use the computer.

 

[bps21]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/the-xbox-one-believers/

The first time Spencer was able to give comment without sounding like a prick. He also readily admits the things they don't have policy worked out for and why instead of just sending mixed messages.

 

[Damaramu]

One of my co-worker's 17 year old son was up at work yesterday and he was trumpeting the X-Box One. I hit him with the DRM, online check-in and such and he acted like that was all normal and not a big deal. Plus he was flipping that you can use it to watch TV and do everything.
"I don't have to get up and use the computer to surf the web now!"
Can't you do that already on the 360 and PS3?
Oh well he lives out in the country with a crappy DSL connection so we'll see how much he likes his X-Box One.

 

[oldskool]

One of my co-worker's 17 year old son was up at work yesterday and he was trumpeting the X-Box One. I hit him with the DRM, online check-in and such and he acted like that was all normal and not a big deal. Plus he was flipping that you can use it to watch TV and do everything.
"I don't have to get up and use the computer to surf the web now!"
Can't you do that already on the 360 and PS3?
Oh well he lives out in the country with a crappy DSL connection so we'll see how much he likes his X-Box One.

He's the target audience, I would imagine. 24 hour check-in, DRM, none of that matters for them, they only play stuff like COD with no long-term single-player/offline options anyway.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Guys, it's over-delivering on value now! http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/xbox-boss-says-500-xbox-one-is-over-delivering-on-value-name/

"We're over-delivering value against other choices, I think, consumers can get. Any modern product these days, you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think that they're going to love it when they use it."

THOUSANDS guys! Pfft... you all are wankers for not realizing the VALUE you are getting with this MODERN product that is built for the CONSUMER of 2013.

 

[Smues]

I think they've hyped its ability to watch TV so much that they've forgotten that it doesn't actually come with one.

 

[Youth N Asia]

My 360 sometimes goes a week without getting turned on. I like the games, just don't have much time to play. No way the Xbox One is the next system for me.

 

[vivisectvi]

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/19/4445098/gamestop-hits-xbox-one-launch-cap-ceases-pre-orders

GameStop stores hit Xbox One launch cap; pre-orders ceased
By Colin Campbell on Jun 19, 2013 at 12:06p @ColinCampbellx

GameStop has ceased taking pre-orders for Xbox One. Employees from a number of retail locations around the country tell Polygon that the company reached its launch-day allocation last weekend. The company says it is still taking orders via its online site.

Retail managers say senior managers sent out a nationwide email to store managers a few days ago telling them to cease taking pre-orders. Many had already stopped taking launch-date orders, because they had run out of individual store-level allocations.

Polygon called stores around the country, all of which declined to take Xbox One pre-orders. They are still taking PlayStation 4 orders. Store managers say allocations for Sony's machine are considerably higher than Microsoft's.

One store manager in California said, "We were only given an allocation of 16 Xbox Ones but we have 60 PlayStation 4s and we're still taking orders." Another in Texas said, "There's no point trying any GameStops. We've stopped that SKU until we get notice."

Allocations are determined by Microsoft. A store manager in Ohio said, "All stores have been told to stop until we get some more units from Microsoft."

...

A spokesperson for GameStop told Polygon, "Due to high demand, GameStop is not taking additional store reservations for the Xbox One Day One Edition. However, reservations can still be made at www.gamestop.com ... In the meantime, the Xbox One wireless controller and top Xbox One games like: Ryse: Son of Rome, Forza Motorsport 5, and Kinect Sports Rivals are available for pre-order at all GameStop stores or online."

 

[KingPK]

MS has apparently pulled a Romney and are reversing everything. They have no clue right now.

 

[bps21]

What are they reversing?

 

[KingPK]

Everything. No 24 hour check, no region lock, no all the stuff people bitched about.

Patrick Klepeck had a story on Giant Bomb but the site's being slammed right now.

 

[BlackFlagg]

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15306-Rumour--Microsoft-to-Reverse-Xbox-One-DRM-Policies.html

 

[bps21]

When the world ends all that will be left is the cockroaches and a kinect that needs to be plugged in.

 

[vivisectvi]

MS is DDOSing GiantBomb!!