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My ex-girlfriend became all but surgically attached to her iPhone to the point that we couldn't go out to dinner or see a concert or do anything without her playing with her iPhone at all times, whether it was telling everyone on facebook where she was eating or playing Angry Birds or, eventually, texting her ex-boyfriend to set up when he'd come stay at her place for a weekend while I was sitting right there. Most iPhones should probably just be jammed down their owners' throats.
 

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Vitamin X said:
Apple's tribute on their site is very classy. I'm wondering how the company will do without him. They're already on iffy ground in the smartphone war against Google, since Android devices are outselling iPhones over 2 to 1, and while they've made huge strides in personal computing (up to 24% from 11% several years ago, more compatibile devices, etc.) they're still a niche market.

24% my ass. Apple has 58 million pc's out there over the last 6 years. HP sold 60 million last year alone.

Apples stuff will sell well just because its apple stuff and people will buy anthing with apple stamped on it. But its a small marketshare, they over price their products, use sweatshops to make the stuff, bully companies into lower component prices, and horde all the money seeing as they don't believe in any type of philantropy(yet unlike other companies where charitible donations are a way to save on taxes) still didn't pay taxes for shit.


But if they keep fucking around with stuff like the Iphone 4gs, and with the mainstream media not sucking off Tim Cook like they did Steve Jobs, they could see some hurting in their marketshare. Especially if Cook isn't a completely unethical dick like Jobs was ,its going to be tough to maintain that marketshare.
 

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Yeah. Apple has a lot of cool products, and the iphone paved the way for a lot of other companies to roll out cool shit as well, but their computers are still overpriced.

$1200 on average for a laptop that costs probably around $4-500 from other brands.

Apple is fantastic as a brand recognition because those who believe in the brand will eat up anything with the logo on it.
 

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Ripper said:
Vitamin X said:
Apple's tribute on their site is very classy. I'm wondering how the company will do without him. They're already on iffy ground in the smartphone war against Google, since Android devices are outselling iPhones over 2 to 1, and while they've made huge strides in personal computing (up to 24% from 11% several years ago, more compatibile devices, etc.) they're still a niche market.

24% my ass. Apple has 58 million pc's out there over the last 6 years. HP sold 60 million last year alone.
I meant to say they've gained more marketshare of new computers sold. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/may/24/apple-sales-growth-pc-market
He's also noted that in the first quarter of this year, when Mac shipments grew by 27.7% while the PC market shrank by 1.2% year-on-year (by IDC's numbers; Gartner's show a 0.94% fall) Mac shipment growth occurred in "every single regional market". In Europe, they grew 10% against a PC market down 17.5%; in Asia up 69.4% (v PC market up 8.8%); in Japan, up 21.1% (PCs down 16.1%). All figures are IDC data, and all year-on-year.

Anyways, thought I'd put this in this thread. From the always excellent xkcd webcomic:
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The title is "Eternal Flame"
 

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Vitamin X said:
Ripper said:
Vitamin X said:
Apple's tribute on their site is very classy. I'm wondering how the company will do without him. They're already on iffy ground in the smartphone war against Google, since Android devices are outselling iPhones over 2 to 1, and while they've made huge strides in personal computing (up to 24% from 11% several years ago, more compatibile devices, etc.) they're still a niche market.

24% my ass. Apple has 58 million pc's out there over the last 6 years. HP sold 60 million last year alone.
I meant to say they've gained more marketshare of new computers sold. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/may/24/apple-sales-growth-pc-market
He's also noted that in the first quarter of this year, when Mac shipments grew by 27.7% while the PC market shrank by 1.2% year-on-year (by IDC's numbers; Gartner's show a 0.94% fall) Mac shipment growth occurred in "every single regional market". In Europe, they grew 10% against a PC market down 17.5%; in Asia up 69.4% (v PC market up 8.8%); in Japan, up 21.1% (PCs down 16.1%). All figures are IDC data, and all year-on-year.

And that shoved them all the way up to 5 percent of the PC marketshare. I know, I am essentially agreeing with your earlier statement, its just that Tim Cook made that statement at their I-stuff announcement that they are up to 27% of the market and " There are still 73% of people picking something besides Apple" which was just such bullshit it was laughable. They jumped from 4% to almost 5. All the while, HP, Dell, and Acer all individually outsell them.

A 27% increase is alot easier when you are coming from basically 0.
 
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Ripper said:
Vitamin X said:
Ripper said:
Vitamin X said:
Apple's tribute on their site is very classy. I'm wondering how the company will do without him. They're already on iffy ground in the smartphone war against Google, since Android devices are outselling iPhones over 2 to 1, and while they've made huge strides in personal computing (up to 24% from 11% several years ago, more compatibile devices, etc.) they're still a niche market.

24% my ass. Apple has 58 million pc's out there over the last 6 years. HP sold 60 million last year alone.
I meant to say they've gained more marketshare of new computers sold. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/may/24/apple-sales-growth-pc-market
He's also noted that in the first quarter of this year, when Mac shipments grew by 27.7% while the PC market shrank by 1.2% year-on-year (by IDC's numbers; Gartner's show a 0.94% fall) Mac shipment growth occurred in "every single regional market". In Europe, they grew 10% against a PC market down 17.5%; in Asia up 69.4% (v PC market up 8.8%); in Japan, up 21.1% (PCs down 16.1%). All figures are IDC data, and all year-on-year.

And that shoved them all the way up to 5 percent of the PC marketshare. I know, I am essentially agreeing with your earlier statement, its just that Tim Cook made that statement at their I-stuff announcement that they are up to 27% of the market and " There are still 73% of people picking something besides Apple" which was just such bullshit it was laughable. They jumped from 4% to almost 5. All the while, HP, Dell, and Acer all individually outsell them.

A 27% increase is alot easier when you are coming from basically 0.

Exactly.
 

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At the Apple store earlier and every system not occupied by some random teen checking their facebook had a Steve Jobs "in memory" screen saver on it.
Had an urge to go hit the keyboards on every single one, but didn't feel like being a real life ass.
 

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Saints_Fan_H said:
At the Apple store earlier and every system not occupied by some random teen checking their facebook had a Steve Jobs "in memory" screen saver on it.
Had an urge to go hit the keyboards on every single one, but didn't feel like being a real life ass.

I spent two hours at the Apple store yesterday having iOS 5.0 removed from my iPod touch after it became a $299 paperweight the other day. The Steve Jobs Memorial of candles, photos, and (real) apples was still setup outside.
 

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iPods have sucked ever since they've been pushing the Touch. I just don't feel like there's a point to the Touch; why not just get the iPhone for 30 bucks more or whatever rather than having to carry around two peripherals? There's nothing wrong with the classic, think it's still the best mp3 player out there imo.
 

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iPods have sucked ever since they've been pushing the Touch. I just don't feel like there's a point to the Touch; why not just get the iPhone for 30 bucks more or whatever rather than having to carry around two peripherals? There's nothing wrong with the classic, think it's still the best mp3 player out there imo.

Three words: Monthly data plan.

Sure, the upfront cost is virtually a wash, but unless you have a smartphone already, making that leap puts a serious dent in your wallet over the long haul. It would be nice if there was a smartphone that could give you a wifi-only data option, but that will never happen. Those data plans are the sacred cow for carriers now. The closest we came was the brief revival of the Kin last year, but unfortunately the phone sucked. Nice idea, horrible execution.
 
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lol. jobs said he was going to spend all the money he had to "destroy" Android. Looks like that's working well.... HAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
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